Legal arguments against Somaliland?

[HusseinHassan]

this xildiid guy use to go by the username meylesamaale.
he use to preach somali nationalism and unity
he was being accused of being an impostor and not a real habar-xaabuusheed by the rest of the isaaq members of snet.
one day, his name was changed to just meyle and the 'samaale' part was dropped.
after that, came his anti-islamic rhetoric then his atheism started to come out into the light.
shortly after, he dropped and picked up his clan enclave's banner and rhetoric.
he took a little time off to get fully indoctrinated with more lies and hatred.
now he's back with a new username xildiid.

I couldn't care less what other Isaaq think of me because we're not cut from the same cloth.

It is true that I once was a pan Somalist who believed in Somali unity but I learnt the hard way what it really means. Unlike you I'm not a hypocrite nor a clanist and my family gave for that blue rag (that's suppose to represent all Somalis and the 5 Somali territories including Somaliland) more than anyone in here and their families combined. Two examples being the 1964 border war with Ethiopia and the 1977-78 war with the same country.

I'm not an atheist since I believe in God and I oppose certain elements within Islam, if that makes me "anti Islamic" or whatever you call it then so be it.

Somaliland is not a clan enclave and my belief in Somaliland is not something someone has indoctrinated me with, far from it. When you're confronted with reality you reevaluate your beliefs. I studied the history of my country and when I connected the past to the aspirations of my people today, I had to accept reality.

this three sentences stood out the most from your blabbering.

It is true that I once was a pan Somalist who believed in Somali unity but I learnt the hard way what it really means.

you mean to tell us, somalinet has changed you from being a somali nationalist to fighting for your clan's enclave?
i didn't know somalinet could have such influence on anyone.

Unlike you I'm not a hypocrite nor a clanist and my family gave for that blue rag (that's suppose to represent all Somalis and the 5 Somali territories including Somaliland) more than anyone in here and their families combined. Two examples being the 1964 border war with Ethiopia and the 1977-78 war with the same country.

oh really. the only somalis that fought in those two wars were from your clan? cool story.

I studied the history of my country and when I connected the past to the aspirations of my people today, I had to accept reality.

does this history revolve around the british? say, approximately 74 years? (1884-1960)

[Xildiiid]

Like a true attention whore you're trying to divert the topic because you and the others who came here trying to disprove the original statements in page 1 failed but then again I'm not surprised you're after all the famous transvestite, this is what you're known for. In every thread dadkaad isku hor qaawiisaa like a true faggot.

Unlike you my family means my family it doesn't mean Isaaq nor does it mean my sub clan nor sub sub sub clan. 22 of my uncles participated in 1977-78 war while 10 of my fathers uncles participated in 1964 border war as well as 6 of my maternal grandfathers brothers. They fought for pan Somalism and I was just like them a pan Somalist which means being pro Somali. Somalinet didn't change my views, the hypocrisy of Somalis who claim to be pan Somalist and their nonsense changed my views but here's something you didn't know, I was never anti Somaliland.


The history revolves around the people of Somaliland and I studied different episodes, from the formation of Somaliland and its borders to the aspirations of independence in the 50's to the parliamentary elections in early 1960, ending with Somaliland gaining independence on June 26 that same year.

[luis1]

Somaliland can not be recognized as an independent state.UN and the rest of the countries must recognize only one country not several ones:Somalia.

If african countries accept Somaliland,they are accepting the rights to secession of many nationalities within their own countries.The final result will be chaos and civil war in Africa.Each country of Africa will look like the actual Zaire or Somalia.

[Bermooda]

Somaliland can not be recognized as an independent state.UN and the rest of the countries must recognize only one country not several ones:Somalia.

If african countries accept Somaliland,they are accepting the rights to secession of many nationalities within their own countries.The final result will be chaos and civil war in Africa.Each country of Africa will look like the actual Zaire or Somalia.

Too late cos they already did that with South Sudan.

[Khalid Ali]

Xuseen xassan who promotes qabiil federalism accusing others this man breaths Puntland and Jubbaland because of qabiil wuxu indho adaga stop playing others

Elite Adiguna re you not ogaden dont you have xabashis to fight instead of giving Somalilanders advise on how to get recognition.

Xildiid saw the light and that walanweyns have nothing to offer other than bombs killing themselves and Maffia culture

[STARKAST]

Legal arguments ? What law are you speaking of ? If you are speaking of Sharia, you can close this thread because you already know the answer.

[Xildiiid]

Somaliland can not be recognized as an independent state.UN and the rest of the countries must recognize only one country not several ones:Somalia.

If african countries accept Somaliland,they are accepting the rights to secession of many nationalities within their own countries.The final result will be chaos and civil war in Africa.Each country of Africa will look like the actual Zaire or Somalia.

Somaliland was already a recognized country before joining the union which lead to the creation of the Somali republic.

The AU and other countries can oppose all they want but in the end SL will regain its sovereignty by the grace of God.

[Xildiiid]

Legal arguments ? What law are you speaking of ? If you are speaking of Sharia, you can close this thread because you already know the answer.

Islam and the Sharia is against nationalism and the concept of a modern state. Be consistent with your arguments, don't use the religion card because that goes against your claims as well.

[Xildiiid]

Xuseen xassan who promotes qabiil federalism accusing others this man breaths Puntland and Jubbaland because of qabiil wuxu indho adaga stop playing others

Elite Adiguna re you not ogaden dont you have xabashis to fight instead of giving Somalilanders advise on how to get recognition.

Xildiid saw the light and that walanweyns have nothing to offer other than bombs killing themselves and Maffia culture

Sometimes I can't help but feel sorry for them and their country but I only need 10 seconds and I'm reminded of their true nature.

Horaa loo yidhi nimaad kabtiisa toleysid, isaguna kafantaada toleya. That's why I often say reer SL need to distance themselves from these people in every aspect.

[STARKAST]

In my previous post i was going to add its one thing to push for self governance but its another to preach division like it be a holy sermon. Your predictable replies are childish.
There is no point in discussing important affairs with those that reject fundamentals of their own faith . This is why i can't take you lot seriously, honestly.

[Xildiiid]

What division? There was a political union between Somaliland and Somalia just like there was a political union between Egypt and Syria. Both these unions failed and it's not a matter of division but political differences.


If you're going to stick to your argument about religion then you have no right to talk about governance or nationalism at all since Islam opposes the modern state.

You can't have it both ways.

[BigBreak]

xildiid schooling starkast like a breeze

[STARKAST]

BigBreak dear, gone are the days that i post paragraphs and essays, specially on topics (sucession) that need only 1 sentence replies but as usual its only the jahils that fail to accept what is commanded of them.
Also to be quite honest its kinda embarrassing to say the obvious to grown men, like i'm their fathers.

I reject the idea of a nation state. Nation states are a foreign idea introduced to the Muslim world less than 120 years ago, for 1 sole reason that a 10 yr old could state.
However we have to deal with what we have today, and work towards the inevitable for tomorrow.
Advocating 1 'calan', not 5 for 10 million people, is not alot to ask for a sane person let alone a Muslim. I just can't reason with Jahils, bye.
Also one more thing using colonial history for contemporary issues is house nigga behaviour, but we all already know that.

[Xildiiid]

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Meesha ka carar, waxba islama heyside.


Not one legal argument against SL and I'm still waiting.

[Khalid Ali]

There are no legal arguments against SL nothing


There are how ever emotions tantrums but nothing with substance

TOP 10 ARGUMENTS AGAINST SL i have heard



I held so many discussions in real life in Fadhi ku dirir and on snet

These are the top 10 arguments against Somaliland

1 we are all Somali , isku af isku diin thus we shall remain together for ever

2 Xabashi Boogeyman and scare tactics Ethiopia Kenya

3 Somaliland has no resources how will u survive with out our Bantu Fruits

4 well if Somaliland wants to leave , Somaliland must be sliced also in pieces i dont know the reason behind this

5 if you want independence leave our name Somali and call your self something else

6 Somalis cannot be divided because its in the Quran u think i am joking one walanweyn guy told me this

7 we love the number 7 symbol of the Somali map

8 Colonial borders are not something u can base a statehood on

9 All Somalis have killed each other including intra walanweyn conflicts why do you want to leave us

10 if you want to leave Somalia , than call your self north Somalia , this one i also heard



When nothing works we will invade you with our Amisom army to re construct the cancerous union


U gotta love walanweyns runti they are simple people