This city in Africa is called little Rome, so beautiful, so virgin frm tourist, in a hermit kingdom

[Estarix]

I actually get where Estraix is coming from. He believes we should hold hands and sing kumbaya with everything black - including a coffee table. Because we share something in common. While Itrah takes from Margaret Sanger and thinks non-indigenous horners should pack their bags and leave or be sterilized. You are both wrong.

I wouldnt say im the harmonic hippy kind, i do believe in harmony to an extent and along with it personal liberty.

[Sophisticate]

Thank you for being a good sport as well. Easy on the vitriol. A word of advice: don't assume you know other people or their intentions. *Hats off!*

I wasn't trying to be a good sport. This thread (past debates aside) has a right and a wrong side. To equate the two was wrong. Now, it was wrong of me to assume, so please enlighten me as to your intention. Maybe to direct the thread in a direction you'd prefer?

Dont compare this to Stormfront, which is a racist SUPREMACIST site. I don't believe I'm superior to anyone. I only want to see the Somali culture and ethnic group preserved for the next several centuries.

No, modern White Supremacists would actually label themselves as White Nationalists, which is precisely what you advocate for Somalia. Stormfront was an apropos comparison.

Caadi Iska Dhiig. I don't know if you can pick up sarcasm.

Nope. I had no intention for malice. I could disagree with both parties can I not, on points made? I will agree with Estraix on many points except for saying that Somalis do not have the "aptitude" to self-reflect. Their attitude is preventing this, I don't think anyone has a natural inclination/aptitude for self-reflection. That's a learned behaviour. And I think Somalis can and do self-reflect. They're just so confused and don't understand what the "greater good is." Its also hard to subordinate individual interests for the "greater good" if you feel like others don't have your best interests at heart, or are unwilling to do the same. I will applaud Tanzania and Kenya for outperforming even Ethiopia on OECD metrics, but I don't think you should compare it to the plight of Somalis, which is systemic and multi-layered compared to these countries, which did not undergo a more recent civil war and many years of statelessness. All things clearly aren't equal. Also, I cannot forget about Somali expats that have helped to build up those countries either. Also, Itrah has some displaced anger toward Bantu people that I don't share. Lastly, I probably would have left the thread had it not been for your earlier remark tbh.

[JamalAddow]

Why is only MJs that are anti-Jareer?

If you wanna deport any Jareerweyne, come start with Cisman Maxamud.

The rulers of Somalia were always predominantly Jareer, Abgaal iyo Cisman Maxamud.

Every time I see a pure Cushitic I know for sure he's a langaab, that his ancestors were geeljire and never had slaves like we did.

Alxamdullilah for being landheere.

[Itrah]

Why is only MJs that are anti-Jareer?

If you wanna deport any Jareerweyne, come start with Cisman Maxamud.

The rulers of Somalia were always predominantly Jareer, Abgaal iyo Cisman Maxamud.

Every time I see a pure Cushitic I know for sure he's a langaab, that his ancestors were geeljire and never had slaves like we did.

Alxamdullilah for being landheere.

I am not Majerteen.

[Estarix]

Thank you for being a good sport as well. Easy on the vitriol. A word of advice: don't assume you know other people or their intentions. *Hats off!*

I wasn't trying to be a good sport. This thread (past debates aside) has a right and a wrong side. To equate the two was wrong. Now, it was wrong of me to assume, so please enlighten me as to your intention. Maybe to direct the thread in a direction you'd prefer?

Dont compare this to Stormfront, which is a racist SUPREMACIST site. I don't believe I'm superior to anyone. I only want to see the Somali culture and ethnic group preserved for the next several centuries.

No, modern White Supremacists would actually label themselves as White Nationalists, which is precisely what you advocate for Somalia. Stormfront was an apropos comparison.

Caadi Iska Dhiig. I don't know if you can pick up sarcasm.

Nope. I had no intention for malice. I could disagree with both parties can I not, on points made? I will agree with Estraix on many points except for saying that Somalis do not have the "aptitude" to self-reflect. Their attitude is preventing this, I don't think anyone has a natural inclination/aptitude for self-reflection. That's a learned behaviour. And I think Somalis can and do self-reflect. They're just so confused and don't understand what the "greater good is." Its also hard to subordinate individual interests for the "greater good" if you feel like others don't have your best interests at heart, or are unwilling to do the same. I will applaud Tanzania and Kenya for outperforming even Ethiopia on OECD metrics, but I don't think you should compare it to the plight of Somalis, which is systemic and multi-layered compared to these countries, which did not undergo a more recent civil war and many years of statelessness. All things clearly aren't equal. Also, I cannot forget about Somali expats that have helped to build up those countries either. Also, Itrah has some displaced anger toward Bantu people that I don't share. Lastly, I probably would have left the thread had it not been for your earlier remark tbh.

I think i went too far with the part " not having the apitude to self reflect".
Ethiopia is not really much ahead of us, Kenya is different but Somalia can surpass the two without too many problems. By the way dont be too intimated by their size, population is not an important metric for power atleast in this day and age.
Whats holding back Somalis is their culture; and im sure thats slowly progressing too. Sometimes it's better to be positive/optimistic.

[Estarix]

Why is only MJs that are anti-Jareer?

If you wanna deport any Jareerweyne, come start with Cisman Maxamud.

The rulers of Somalia were always predominantly Jareer, Abgaal iyo Cisman Maxamud.

Every time I see a pure Cushitic I know for sure he's a langaab, that his ancestors were geeljire and never had slaves like we did.

Alxamdullilah for being landheere.

I am not Majerteen.

You used to have a previous nick that went by the name Mckuus which was banned in 2011 didnt you?

[Itrah]

You used to have a previous nick that went by the name Mckuus which was banned in 2011 didnt you?

Nope. That's some other guy.

[Itrah]

I think i went too far with the part " not having the apitude to self reflect".
Ethiopia is not really much ahead of us, Kenya is different but Somalia can surpass the two without too many problems. By the way dont be too intimated by their size, population is not an important metric for power atleast in this day and age.
Whats holding back Somalis is their culture; and im sure thats slowly progressing too. Sometimes it's better to be positive/optimistic.

Ethiopia probably has the most potential out of all the Sub-Saharan African countries. Their main problem is their retarded autocratic political system. Kenya got lucky with more British influenced systems, but they are inferior to Ethiopians.

[SaciidAyanleh]

Caadi Iska Dhiig. I don't know if you can pick up sarcasm.

Nope. I had no intention for malice. I could disagree with both parties can I not, on points made? I will agree with Estraix on many points except for saying that Somalis do not have the "aptitude" to self-reflect. Their attitude is preventing this, I don't think anyone has a natural inclination/aptitude for self-reflection. That's a learned behaviour. And I think Somalis can and do self-reflect. They're just so confused and don't understand what the "greater good is." Its also hard to subordinate individual interests for the "greater good" if you feel like others don't have your best interests at heart, or are unwilling to do the same. I will applaud Tanzania and Kenya for outperforming even Ethiopia on OECD metrics, but I don't think you should compare it to the plight of Somalis, which is systemic and multi-layered compared to these countries, which did not undergo a more recent civil war and many years of statelessness. All things clearly aren't equal. Also, I cannot forget about Somali expats that have helped to build up those countries either. Also, Itrah has some displaced anger toward Bantu people that I don't share. Lastly, I probably would have left the thread had it not been for your earlier remark tbh.

So concerned with how you portray yourself you gotta ninja edit your responses?

You disagree with both of them, so where do you side in the debate? Hopefully with Estarix and not the eugenicist. Again, your little interjection was self-serving and unneeded.

[Sophisticate]

I think i went too far with the part " not having the apitude to self reflect".
Ethiopia is not really much ahead of us, Kenya is different but Somalia can surpass the two without too many problems. By the way dont be too intimated by their size, population is not an important metric for power atleast in this day and age.
Whats holding back Somalis is their culture; and im sure thats slowly progressing too. Sometimes it's better to be positive/optimistic.

Not a problem I'm sure you meant well.

[Sophisticate]

Caadi Iska Dhiig. I don't know if you can pick up sarcasm.

Nope. I had no intention for malice. I could disagree with both parties can I not, on points made? I will agree with Estraix on many points except for saying that Somalis do not have the "aptitude" to self-reflect. Their attitude is preventing this, I don't think anyone has a natural inclination/aptitude for self-reflection. That's a learned behaviour. And I think Somalis can and do self-reflect. They're just so confused and don't understand what the "greater good is." Its also hard to subordinate individual interests for the "greater good" if you feel like others don't have your best interests at heart, or are unwilling to do the same. I will applaud Tanzania and Kenya for outperforming even Ethiopia on OECD metrics, but I don't think you should compare it to the plight of Somalis, which is systemic and multi-layered compared to these countries, which did not undergo a more recent civil war and many years of statelessness. All things clearly aren't equal. Also, I cannot forget about Somali expats that have helped to build up those countries either. Also, Itrah has some displaced anger toward Bantu people that I don't share. Lastly, I probably would have left the thread had it not been for your earlier remark tbh.

So concerned with how you portray yourself you gotta ninja edit your responses?

You disagree with both of them, so where do you side in the debate? Hopefully with Estarix and not the eugenicist. Again, your little interjection was self-serving and unneeded.

It's a thread. We are not here to police each other's opinions or stop someone from commenting. I will gladly give you an option. If you find my comments insensitive then I suggest you get acquainted with the "foe button" and block my future replies. Wallahi its not that hard. Take care walaal and best of luck.

[FieldMarshalMenace]

Caadi Iska Dhiig. I don't know if you can pick up sarcasm.

Nope. I had no intention for malice. I could disagree with both parties can I not, on points made? I will agree with Estraix on many points except for saying that Somalis do not have the "aptitude" to self-reflect. Their attitude is preventing this, I don't think anyone has a natural inclination/aptitude for self-reflection. That's a learned behaviour. And I think Somalis can and do self-reflect. They're just so confused and don't understand what the "greater good is." Its also hard to subordinate individual interests for the "greater good" if you feel like others don't have your best interests at heart, or are unwilling to do the same. I will applaud Tanzania and Kenya for outperforming even Ethiopia on OECD metrics, but I don't think you should compare it to the plight of Somalis, which is systemic and multi-layered compared to these countries, which did not undergo a more recent civil war and many years of statelessness. All things clearly aren't equal. Also, I cannot forget about Somali expats that have helped to build up those countries either. Also, Itrah has some displaced anger toward Bantu people that I don't share. Lastly, I probably would have left the thread had it not been for your earlier remark tbh.

So concerned with how you portray yourself you gotta ninja edit your responses?

You disagree with both of them, so where do you side in the debate? Hopefully with Estarix and not the eugenicist. Again, your little interjection was self-serving and unneeded.

It's a thread. We are not here to police each other's opinions or stop someone from commenting. I will gladly give you an option. If you find my comments insensitive then I suggest you get acquainted with the "foe button" and block my future replies. Wallahi its not that hard. Take care walaal and best of luck.

Since I am the author of this thread raali noqo inaabti

[Sophisticate]

Since I am the author of this thread raali noqo inaabti

No you don't need to apologize. Sorry, for veering off topic.

[FieldMarshalMenace]

Since I am the author of this thread raali noqo inaabti

No you don't need to apologize. Sorry, for veering off topic.

It's alright sis..I'm anyways considered a lunatic ..I been called everything ...sarkhaan...low life ...jobless....exposer...perv...but guess what'm most appreciative about ? That they don't call me qabilist ...so I'm content with whatever I'm called ...sorry for offloading my issues on you ....

Can I request something ? Can you teach me English ?

[Sophisticate]

Since I am the author of this thread raali noqo inaabti

No you don't need to apologize. Sorry, for veering off topic.

It's alright sis..I'm anyways considered a lunatic ..I been called everything ...sarkhaan...low life ...jobless....exposer...perv...but guess what'm most appreciative about ? That they don't call me qabilist ...so I'm content with whatever I'm called ...sorry for offloading my issues on you ....

Can I request something ? Can you teach me English ?

Look on the bright side, at least you have developed a tough skin. And that does not faze you any more. I think your English is fine. You are underestimating your abilities. What is it that you would like to improve, exactly?