Somali Sufis return to somalia! Now making a Comeback!

[Alpharabius]

^^ Honestly, that's grossly misleading. I'm not into posting grotesque pictures, but if you really wanted to post Sufis at their most extreme then you'd post the Taliban (Deobandi, Chisti Sufis) executing women at close range. But I know better, Muslims ain't about killing innocent folk so I won't fuel the fire.

Gegiroor: fantastic video about adopting the middle path, thank you for the sound reminder saaxib.

Yw, bro Kareem9. I would advise you to ignore this fella named Alpharabius as his ramblings make no sense at all. He just one extreme who wants to blame one side while ignoring the other. It is better to ignore people like him.

What part of my post did not makes sense to you ? to make it short and simple , all i'm saying is the number one Muslim sect responsible for the most violence in the Mid east and elsewhere are Salafi wahabbis , Shias comes second. You cant deny this fact , so you resort to dismissing my post as " non sensical rambling ". come on sxb you can do better that , atleast refute me by bringing on your own evidence to counter my claim , no need for sloppy ad hominems.

[Alpharabius]

Walaalo, just refer to the State Department's list of designated terrorist organizations. Not only will you see many non-salafi groups (including Shias, interestingly), you'll see Christian, ultra-leftists, and anarchists on there. The point being, extremism exists everywhere. But the media wants us to believe otherwise.

I know I won't change the hateful attitude Sufis have for Salafis, and vice versa, but it doesn't hurt to try. There might be one or two people who think for themselves and can open their minds to that facts and question the popular rhetoric spewed by both sides.

State department ? sxb anyone who opposes Americas Imperial foreign policies are put on that list , when it comes to indentifying and defining terrorists the US should not be trusted , You're are well aware of the Brutality of ISIS , shabab , boko haram and other extreme Salafi groups.

There's no need to look at uncles sam's propaganda when it comes to knowing who is a blood thirsty terrorist and who's not. But is it a coincindence that the majority of Islamic terror groups on that list are Salafi influenced ? i think not.

[Kareem99]

Alpha: you asked me to name one other non-Salafi group that commit attacks against innocent civilians (i.e. terrorist organizations), and you boldly stated that I couldn't because "there are none." I gave you way more than one example. There are many non-Salafi (and non-Sunni, and non-Muslim) groups on that list. If you don't like American viewpoint, I can understand that. But please keep in mind that is partially corroborated by non-government organizations such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International (ex. Irish terrorists, Tamil Tigers, etc...) which have documented clear violations of human rights. If Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International isn't good enough for you then I don't know what is, so I give up.

Anyways, don't oversimplify is what I'm saying, you're smarter than that. You can still disagree and choose to make sweeping statements about one group or another, that's your choice walaalo. You're entitled to your viewpoint. The overwhelming majority of Salafis (and Deobandis, and Shias, and every other religious group) I've dealt with have never expressed their interest to cut my head off.

Walaalo, we'll just agree to disagree.

[Alpharabius]

Alpha: you asked me to name one other non-Salafi group that commit attacks against innocent civilians (i.e. terrorist organizations), and you boldly stated that I couldn't because "there are none." I gave you way more than one example. There are many non-Salafi (and non-Sunni, and non-Muslim) groups on that list. If you don't like American viewpoint, I can understand that. But please keep in mind that is partially corroborated by non-government organizations such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International (ex. Irish terrorists, Tamil Tigers, etc...) which have documented clear violations of human rights. If Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International isn't good enough for you then I don't know what is, so I give up.

Anyways, don't oversimplify is what I'm saying, you're smarter than that. You can still disagree and choose to make sweeping statements about one group or another, that's your choice walaalo. The overwhelming majority of Salafis (and Deobandis, and Shias, and every other religious group) I've dealt with have never expressed their interest to cut my head off.

Walaalo, we'll just agree to disagree.

You're confused , were talking about terrorists within Islam NOT non-muslims , i dont know why you're involving the IRA and tamil in this discussion when our subject is about Sufis , Salafis and Extremist Muslims in general.

You can find Sufi terrorists but they are in the Minority ,my point is that not all Salafis are terrorists but the overwhelming majority of Muslim terrorists are Salafi , the key word here is MAJORITY not All , and no one can deny this fact.

[Kareem99]

The only reason I even included non-Muslims was to illustrate the point that extremism can be found practically anywhere, including (to the shock and dismay of Fox News consumers) outside of Islam. When you write statements like "not all Salafis are terrorists but the overwhelming majority of Muslim terrorists are Salafi" you sound like the white Republicans in America who say "not all blacks are criminals, but the majority of criminals are blacks." Such statements are indicative of a mentality that is bent on generalizations, and based very little on facts.

It was never my intention to debate with you for the sake of debating, because walaal baan kuu arkaa, but rather to come to an understanding. My interest lies solely in dispelling myths that are spread to sew discord between brethren. Anyways, you can keep calling me confused or whatever else you like because I disagreed with you, but I'll keep this respectful and end it right here.

[Alpharabius]

The only reason I even included non-Muslims was to illustrate the point that extremism can be found practically anywhere, including (to the shock and dismay of Fox News consumers) outside of Islam. When you write statements like "not all Salafis are terrorists but the overwhelming majority of Muslim terrorists are Salafi" you sound like the white Republicans in America who say "not all blacks are criminals, but the majority of criminals are blacks." Such statements are indicative of a mentality that is bent on generalizations, and based very little on facts.

It was never my intention to debate with you for the sake of debating, because walaal baan kuu arkaa, but rather to come to an understanding. My interest lies solely in dispelling myths that are spread to sew discord between brethren. Anyways, you can keep calling me confused or whatever else you like because I disagreed with you, but I'll keep this respectful and end it right here.

You're in pure denial , it is evident to everybody that Islamic extremists all share one thing in common , they're all followers of the Wahabi Salafi sect , Boko haram , Al shabab and ISIS all have that in common. would you believe me if i said that at their core KKK members and Neo nazis dont share the same white supremacist ideology ? no you wouldn't and that's exactly what your doing when it comes to the Salafi wahabi sect and terrorism.

[Kareem99]

That's not what I was doing, but thank you for conveniently ignoring all my points. I guess we can't agree to disagree after all. I'm confused, and now apparently in denial. I can't be right, and you can't be wrong. You win, good Sir, and thank you for enlightening me about the blood-thirsty Salafis. Have a good evening.

[LeJusticier]

Gegiroon

You kept posting bangladesh weird staff and lebelled Somali sufi shafici and called sufi bidca. You and me are aware we do inherited shafici sufi from our ancestors. You're also aware out of jaahilnimo we use to practiced awliya etc. Today people are more edecated and filtered cibaada through the Islamic bases.

Again, I am proud to be Somali and Muslim and reject injection Arab culture into my culture...full stop.