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thegoodshepherd wrote:

CasualFarah wrote:all those sacad muuse who tested for E V32 belong to the same subclan Jibriil Abokor

It seems Odaygii Ismail Jeberti had the same Y dna as Odaygii Murursade lol..what did happen to Arab yemeni orgin ?

Neither EV-32 or T mean that you are decended from a Yemeni or not. Both haplogroups are found in Yemen in the 4% range. The first step to proving whether a clan's origin story is true is to test and see if they actually cohere or have the same Y-dna marker. Isaaq as a clan failed this criteria, so its not actually even a qabil but isutaag, a confederation.

So far, the vast majority of Daroods are of one type, so we can go to the second step of searching for a common ancestor about 25-30 generations ago.

ps. Marques, Who is Karanle Hawiye (Murusade), has done the test and is T like you. As a matter of fact, most Abgaal whose results I have seen are T, while HG are Ev-32.

When did Marques do the test? That is news to me. Warya Marques if you are reading this, pm me my nigga.

I have heard of two Abgals who are T, one was Tianium. How many more have you come across bro?

Dude, do not be making assumptions about Isaaq based on SM and GX test results. I could throw in kiddmo who is Habar Jeclo Maxamed Abokoor, Xildiid and state Habar Jeclo are all T based on these two individuals, however, it would illogical until more HJ test results are obtained along with Toljeclo,, Sanbuur, Arab, Ayub and Cimran.

E-V32 is not found in the Arabian peninsular so stop trolling bro, it is an indigenous African haplogroup unlike haplogroup T which has its origins in Western Asia and is not indigenous to Africa. Not one study has found any meaningful numbers of E-V32 carriers in the Mid East unlike some E1b1b haplotypes. That does not mean Dir are are Arab but it sure means we do not share the same paternal ancestry as most Cushites such as the E-V32 Oromos, Beja and also it also illustrates our ancestors migrated from the Middle East into Africa at some point in history.

Titanium was a sheegato. He was not Abgaal, he was Gugundhabe or another clan in Hiiraan/Qalaafe area.

Maybe a lost Baajimaal?


Zumaale,

What subclan of HJ did Kiddmo belong to? Nuux Maxamed like me?

Xildiiid wrote:Titanium was a sheegato. He was not Abgaal, he was Gugundhabe or another clan in Hiiraan/Qalaafe area.

Maybe a lost Baajimaal?


Zumaale,

What subclan of HJ did Kiddmo belong to? Nuux Maxamed like me?

Sup bro

The kid did not elaborate by PM unfortunately. Considering the preponderance of Black Adans in the UK would not put it past him being Adan Maxamed.

Considering that Soolamdoows are not that high up the family tree, I am confident that if Xiis or any other Snetter did the test they would also obtain haplogroup T like your cousin.


Titanium was not Abgaal. How certain are you bro?

Xildiiid wrote:Titanium was a sheegato. He was not Abgaal, he was Gugundhabe or another clan in Hiiraan/Qalaafe area.

Maybe a lost Baajimaal?


Zumaale,

What subclan of HJ did Kiddmo belong to? Nuux Maxamed like me?

Waar ma DNA baad iska qaaday ? Kk oo xarafkaad noqotay .

I would like to take the test but obviously I don't want to pay a penny. Is there a free version?

Zumaale

If a solomadaw or black adam person is T I believe at least all mohamed obokor have the same haplogroup . Get a biciide straight from garadag next time lool.

theyuusuf143 wrote:Zumaale

If a solomadaw or black adam person is T I believe at least all mohamed obokor have the same haplogroup . Get a biciide straight from garadag next time lool.

Bro, HJ shaki kama qabi iney T noqonayan badankoda laakin so as not to appear biased I gotta hold back .

Odeeyga LJ meeye? waxa ficna inan dhig ka qadno .

Zumaale,

Kiddmo is most likely Aadan Maxamed (Aadan Madoobe) like Axmad Siilaanyo or Yeesif Maxamed if he's from Liverpool.

Brother Xiis is from the house of Uduruxmiin (Muuse Abokor - HJ).

Titanium was exposed as a sheegato and it turns out he was a minority clan from Hiiraan/Qalaafe area. That's why he left SomaliNet.

Yuusuf,

My cousin took the test years ago and he's a carrier of Haplogroup T.

zumaale wrote:

thegoodshepherd wrote:

CasualFarah wrote:all those sacad muuse who tested for E V32 belong to the same subclan Jibriil Abokor

It seems Odaygii Ismail Jeberti had the same Y dna as Odaygii Murursade lol..what did happen to Arab yemeni orgin ?

Neither EV-32 or T mean that you are decended from a Yemeni or not. Both haplogroups are found in Yemen in the 4% range. The first step to proving whether a clan's origin story is true is to test and see if they actually cohere or have the same Y-dna marker. Isaaq as a clan failed this criteria, so its not actually even a qabil but isutaag, a confederation.

So far, the vast majority of Daroods are of one type, so we can go to the second step of searching for a common ancestor about 25-30 generations ago.

ps. Marques, Who is Karanle Hawiye (Murusade), has done the test and is T like you. As a matter of fact, most Abgaal whose results I have seen are T, while HG are Ev-32.

When did Marques do the test? That is news to me. Warya Marques if you are reading this, pm me my nigga.

I have heard of two Abgals who are T, one was Tianium. How many more have you come across bro?

Dude, do not be making assumptions about Isaaq based on SM and GX test results. I could throw in kiddmo who is Habar Jeclo Maxamed Abokoor, Xildiid and state Habar Jeclo are all T based on these two individuals, however, it would illogical until more HJ test results are obtained along with Toljeclo,, Sanbuur, Arab, Ayub and Cimran.

E-V32 is not found in the Arabian peninsular so stop trolling bro, it is an indigenous African haplogroup unlike haplogroup T which has its origins in Western Asia and is not indigenous to Africa. Not one study has found any meaningful numbers of E-V32 carriers in the Mid East unlike some E1b1b haplotypes. That does not mean Dir are are Arab but it sure means we do not share the same paternal ancestry as most Cushites such as the E-V32 Oromos, Beja and also it also illustrates our ancestors migrated from the Middle East into Africa at some point in history.

T and E1b1b both arrived in the horn at the same time. The Somali T haplogroup is not from the middle east but from Egypt.

can someone explain the j1 haplogroup pls?

i remember searching somalinet and there was this user dawwa9 who was the same subclan as me and got that haplogroup

ty

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:

zumaale wrote:
When did Marques do the test? That is news to me. Warya Marques if you are reading this, pm me my nigga.

I have heard of two Abgals who are T, one was Tianium. How many more have you come across bro?

Dude, do not be making assumptions about Isaaq based on SM and GX test results. I could throw in kiddmo who is Habar Jeclo Maxamed Abokoor, Xildiid and state Habar Jeclo are all T based on these two individuals, however, it would illogical until more HJ test results are obtained along with Toljeclo,, Sanbuur, Arab, Ayub and Cimran.

E-V32 is not found in the Arabian peninsular so stop trolling bro, it is an indigenous African haplogroup unlike haplogroup T which has its origins in Western Asia and is not indigenous to Africa. Not one study has found any meaningful numbers of E-V32 carriers in the Mid East unlike some E1b1b haplotypes. That does not mean Dir are are Arab but it sure means we do not share the same paternal ancestry as most Cushites such as the E-V32 Oromos, Beja and also it also illustrates our ancestors migrated from the Middle East into Africa at some point in history.

T and E1b1b both arrived in the horn at the same time. The Somali T haplogroup is not from the middle east but from Egypt.

Bro, there is no evidence that we entered the Horn together or we came via Egypt. A comparison between T haplogroup carriers in Egypt and those in Somali has not been done and until then we are clueless as to which T haplogroup carriers we are closely related to. For instance, they did a comparative study of Lemba T haplogroup carriers and those from other parts of the world. The closest kin that they found of the Lemba were Turkish T2 haplogroup carriers. Similarly, a comparative study of Somali T haplogroup carriers and those from the Mid East/North Africa would shed more light on our origins.

Furthermore, haplogroup T is absent among other E-V32 Cushites that live closer to Egypt such as the Beja, Fur and Masalit. Hence, if T and E-V32 were always found in close proximity to each other, how come it is mainly restricted to the Eastern Horn. Even the Afar, Saho and Tigre do not possess it. This raises a lot of questions for which we do not have answers at the moment.

Lastly, that often cited Hallenberg study argues that Somali T haplogroup carriers have a common ancestor roughly 2000 years ago. If we are the offspring of a sole individual then it is plausible that our ancestor was a migrant and not part of a movement of people into the horn.

sanguinne wrote:can someone explain the j1 haplogroup pls?

i remember searching somalinet and there was this user dawwa9 who was the same subclan as me and got that haplogroup

ty

Dawwa9 was proven to be trolling and are you for real mate.

zumaale wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Zumaale

If a solomadaw or black adam person is T I believe at least all mohamed obokor have the same haplogroup . Get a biciide straight from garadag next time lool.

Bro, HJ shaki kama qabi iney T noqonayan badankoda laakin so as not to appear biased I gotta hold back .

Odeeyga LJ meeye? waxa ficna inan dhig ka qadno .

that's good idea. ask him if he can participate. we will pay the dna test qaadhaan for him. lool

theyuusuf143 wrote:

zumaale wrote:

theyuusuf143 wrote:Zumaale

If a solomadaw or black adam person is T I believe at least all mohamed obokor have the same haplogroup . Get a biciide straight from garadag next time lool.

Bro, HJ shaki kama qabi iney T noqonayan badankoda laakin so as not to appear biased I gotta hold back .

Odeeyga LJ meeye? waxa ficna inan dhig ka qadno .

that's good idea. ask him if he can participate. we will pay the dna test qaadhaan for him. lool

He will ban me on the spot for bringing JamacatulDNA stuff to him.

there is only one more muuse abokor here. Rambie he is Ali barre (Sland minister of aviation subclan) but he is a young in college, I am not sure if he can participate. its more important if you can find A Sanbuur or cimraan.