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haha. if this comes from a muslim man we would discuss it whether is wrong or right using 'umm' or 'abu' but you ain't one of us.

ciao.

For starters i dont see a problem with interracial marriage, so long it's to a muslim.
I would like to touch on the subject of the dress code, I dont see how one can equate Western and Arab dressing for a Somali. For one, Arab dressing is heavily associated with islamic dressing. In fact one could say the two for the most part are synonymous. For a muslim Somali it makes sense for them to wear arab/muslim clothing as it displays their religious background. For one is at the centre of their identity and is most important to them in their life.

Jalaaludin you are just taking the piss If we are going to wear Gulf-Arab attire, speak their language and take on their customs/culture,we may as well stop being Somalis and call ourselves Arabis. As for traditional Islamic clothing, the largest muslim countries (in terms of population) are Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Turkey, Algeria and Morocco. I don't see you referring to their traditional clothing, nor do Somalis often wear it. Saudi is not even in the top 10

I see.

Stop wearing khamis.
Stop speaking/using Arabic and read the Qur'an in afka hooyoo.

What other suggestions do you have in store for us?

Don't forget some Daarood and Isaq are Arabs

Ps....the Arab card ain't gonna work so back to the drawing board and another strategy is needed. Because this cheap tactics might fool some unsuspecting faraxs/xalimos into thinking this is about preserving "Somalinimo" but most people can read between the lines. What did Bush say?....heart and mind baby, it's all about the heart and mind.
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jalaaludin5 wrote:I see.

Stop wearing khamis.
Stop speaking/using Arabic and read the Qur'an in afka hooyoo.

Those two things are separate and uncorrelated. Nobody mentioned reading quran in Somali. Stop creating strawman arguments. You didn't answer my question. Are you gonna turn up to your next interview in a khamiis atop a camel like the Prophet AS?

Jalaaludin what are you insinuating? Stop hiding behind suggestion and speak your mind. For those of us who cant read between the lines, noo translategaree

Jalaaludin disappeared, I thought so

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:

jalaaludin5 wrote:I see.

Stop wearing khamis.
Stop speaking/using Arabic and read the Qur'an in afka hooyoo.

Those two things are separate and uncorrelated. Nobody mentioned reading quran in Somali. Stop creating strawman arguments. You didn't answer my question. Are you gonna turn up to your next interview in a khamiis atop a camel like the Prophet AS?

Of course I wouldn't turn up on an interview wearing khamis, the same way you wouldn't ...wearing laba go'.

Now tell me what exactly upset you about somali wearing khamis? I don't get it.
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TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin disappeared, I thought so

TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin what are you insinuating? Stop hiding behind suggestion and speak your mind. For those of us who cant read between the lines, noo translategaree

PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH ISLAM BUT LIKE TO USE ARABS AS A BACKDOOr.

jalaaludin5 wrote:
Of course I wouldn't turn up on an interview wearing khamis, the same way you wouldn't ...wearing laba go'.

Now tell me what exactly upset you about somali wearing khamis? I don't get it.
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So we are in agreement, a Somali wearing a khamiiz is absurd?

Laba go' and khamiiz are not the same thing. One was worn by my ancestors and is my cultural dress, the other is a type of modern gulf-arab attire.

waayeel101 wrote:haha. if this comes from a muslim man we would discuss it whether is wrong or right using 'umm' or 'abu' but you ain't one of us.

ciao.

Lol. Well said. I was wondering why people were entertaining this topic.

LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:

jalaaludin5 wrote:
Of course I wouldn't turn up on an interview wearing khamis, the same way you wouldn't ...wearing laba go'.

Now tell me what exactly upset you about somali wearing khamis? I don't get it.
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So we are in agreement, a Somali wearing a khamiiz is absurd?

Laba go' and khamiiz are not the same thing. One was worn by my ancestors and is my cultural dress, the other is a type of modern gulf-arab attire.

What's even more absurd is making khamis....a traditional Islamic clothing worn by The Prophet (saw) and the sahaabah into an issue.

So you love Somalinimo?

Tell me about the cagdheer gitl you had a disagreement with in the other topic
What about the dhulos who olposed Somaliland....what was it you said about them?

jalaaludin5 wrote:

TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin disappeared, I thought so

TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin what are you insinuating? Stop hiding behind suggestion and speak your mind. For those of us who cant read between the lines, noo translategaree

PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH ISLAM BUT LIKE TO USE ARABS AS A BACKDOOr.

That is a nonsense. We are no anti-Islam, in fact we are MUSLIMS.

However, just because we are Muslims doesn't mean that we should wear Gulf-Arab clothing, that our women should be treated like women are treated there (not being able to vote, drive, leave the house alone, work in a number of different jobs, has to wear a black niqab), or that we should adopt their culture and customs.

But this is about more than clothing, the countries in the Arabian peninsula, rich and developed though they may be, are deeply flawed societies that are patriarchal, dare-I-say misogynistic and racist and we should take much of their cultural practices with a tablespoon of salt.

*Note: Somali society is only somewhat patriarchal, as women can vote (.e.g Somaliland), drive, hold political office, sit on parliament, own and operate businesses, walk outside freely, wear what they like. Whereas gulf countries such as Saudi are 100% patriachal on the extreme. Somalis also treat ethnic minorities better: oromos, yemenis, amhara, indians, syrians, sudanese can all be found in Somali cities (esp. north) and they are not abused, beaten, imprisoned, abused rather they are welcomes with open arms and dadka ayay wax la qabaan. Walahi if you go do UAE you will see that foreigners especially indians and pakistanis dare not return a word to native arabs for fear of abuse and imprisonment, they quiver with fear when stopped by traffic police or native citizens and they apologise PROFUSELY and CONTINUOUSLY.

jalaaludin5 wrote:We don't want to discard the khamis. Even football team have their own uniform. So do.....Firemen. Police officers. Hospital staff. And so on...

Our universal Uniform is the khamis.
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I agree ... I love my khamis nd cumaamad here is my eid picture

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TheFuturist wrote:

jalaaludin5 wrote:

TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin disappeared, I thought so

TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin what are you insinuating? Stop hiding behind suggestion and speak your mind. For those of us who cant read between the lines, noo translategaree

PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH ISLAM BUT LIKE TO USE ARABS AS A BACKDOOr.

That is a nonsense. We are no anti-Islam, in fact we are MUSLIMS.

However, just because we are Muslims doesn't mean that we should wear Gulf-Arab clothing, that our women should be treated like women are treated there (not being able to vote, drive, leave the house alone, work in a number of different roles, has to wear a black niqab), or that we should adopt their culture and customs.

But this is about more than clothing, the countries in the Arabian peninsula, rich and developed though they may be, are deeply flawed societies that are patriarchal, dare-I-say misogynistic and racist and we should take much of their cultural practices with a tablespoon of salt.

*Note: Somali society is only somewhat patriarchal, as women can vote (.e.g Somaliland), drive, hold political office, sit on parliament, own and operate businesses, walk outside freely, wear what they like. Whereas gulf countries such as Saudi are 100% patriachal on the extreme. Somalis also treat ethnic minorities better: oromos, yemenis, amhara, indians, syrians, sudanese can all be found in Somali cities (esp. north) and they are not abused, beaten, imprisoned, abused rather they are welcomes with open arms and dadka ayay wax la qabaan. Walahi if you go do UAE you will see that foreigners especially indians and pakistanis dare not return a word to native arabs for fear of abuse and imprisonment.

I get everything you said and would even agree in normal circumstances free from ugeeda gaar ah.

I know all about the rotten ways Arabs treat others especially Asians but what has that got to do with anything? It's not like we treat each other with kids gloves. This was about khamis and a garment Muslims from Somalia to China wear. How much problem has the khamis caused Somali? I mean seriously! I cannot believe I am even trying to defend a none issue.

Khamiisku waa Islamic symbol and if that translate as Arab-wanabe then so be it. With all their rotten ways we still share Islam with them and that alone should always outweigh their short comings.

Somali are Muslim and I am well aware that nostalgia of bygone days and the old Somalia/somali way we use to do things overwhelm some people but that's gone. There is no going back. Besides, it makes no sense to argue about khamis under the pretext of Somalinimo sake when we all know there is no such thing. Kids on this boards claim to be all about Somalinimo while their elders back home race to please and pleasure ethio and kenya. Some even call foreign troops.....walaalaheen.

Ethiopia is the new uncle of Somalia and Somali leaders don't need to wait for haloween to get their treat.

Khamis is Traditional Islamic garment worn by Our Beloved Prophet (saw).

Wa bilahi tawfiq!

Am out
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