Somaliland should back PL against AMISOM camp

[sahal80]

Saciid

Thats why Im waiting for another change


Im just telling you how the current stage is not bc I support it.

[Siciid85]

Ok got it sxb, thanks

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Lol @ this thread and anyone who agrees with the op. I haven't seen more treacherous Isaaq in my Life...

There's a Somali proverb that goes ''Nimaad kabtiisa toleyso isaguna kafantaada toleya''.

Punaniland and Walaweynistan are on the same page when it comes to Somaliland and by claiming that Punaniland is buffer zone you indirectly accept that you're part of Somalia.

Let's not pretend Somaliland is a sovereign nation, because it isn't. Our fate is tied very much to walaweyns and dhaboyacos. Blame the weak and complacent SL leaders who are not assertive enough to drive home their claims of independence and who aren't men enough to tell Ethiopia to f*** off - just like every other minor tribal Bantustan. We may be bigger than Galmudug and richer than Puntland, but in the end we all dance to the same amhara tune.

[Siciid85]

Lol Liquid.

Runtaad ka hadashay maanta

[Xildiiid]

Our fate is not tied to theirs. By injecting yourselves into their pathetic affairs you connect Somaliland to a country that we claim we have no connection to.

If Somalilanders like yourself believe that it is within your right to "defend" a tribal enclave that opposes your legitimate existence then you're not different from SL leaders.

[AwRastaale]

Guys,

First of all the whole region is tied together one way or another. We have many circles and many inter-locked connections like chemical substance be it family, social, enterprise, stability, history, ancestry, faith or whatever.

So to think you're are in your own island in the Horn of Africa-----one is very delusional.

You have to come to turn with the reality and engage with others however you may agree to do so.

You are no Vanuatu Islands. In every direction there is a world you are connected to and you have to rightfully address it and take measures.

Even with sovereignty you still are pretty much tied to Konfuur. People will cross to and from Konfuur. Insecurities will spillover. There will be indifferences. There will be business and family relations---faith and inter-contacts.

You cannot afford to avoid Konfuur, Djibouti, Ethiopia or even Yemen across the Gulf.

You have to always update your preferences same way Apple updates its apps.

Everything has to be timely and relevant and as this hour-----I openly support Somali proper defence line in Galkacayo against the Axes of Bantus.

My indifferences with PL are small compared to the threat south of Baraxleey. Even if some PL 'official' ushers some 'threats' against me, that doesn't change my mind because I see the bigger picture but he doesn't. That doesn't mean I go tit-for-tat. I'm gonna tell him adeer ha xiqiin...hadad muruq iska daremaysiid ana dagal ku haye so bax.

Little odaay who got his priorities misplaced doesn't bother me. I have a strong mind to focus on the real target...lock the diirad like heat seeking missile.

Peace.

[theyuusuf143]

Our fate is not tied to theirs. By injecting yourselves into their pathetic affairs you connect Somaliland to a country that we claim we have no connection to.

If Somalilanders like yourself believe that it is within your right to "defend" a tribal enclave that opposes your legitimate existence then you're not different from SL leaders.

This is a matter of security not legitimacy. You clearly know None of those foreign actors active in the south recognizes Somaliland sovereignty. in fact they will exploit the low scale tesnsion between us and puntland or kastumo rebels into a bloody full scale war. Somaliland existences depens on our own abilility, nobody will assist us if things get serious, we are not under the protection of any international law as the republic of Somaliland. for that reason we better keep puntland out of foreign boots so that our de facto entity can survive longer peacefully.

[whitehartlane]

1) this amisom flirtations with puntland has been going on for much longer than average non-puntland folks know about it. we just dealt with it and made sure tht we are capeable controlling our state.

to make a point our leaders take till today puntland boots to xamar for the security of the puntland delegation. we dont get involved with anything amisom. during farooles time they tried but faroole didn't entertain it due to fear of the people's rage.

2) gaalkacyo was always our weakest point and this whole new galmudug with new fella is nothing more than a front for creating havoc and instability in the central regions. this fella's admin was a day old when he declared the borders of garowe as part of galmudug. the entire leelkase and cumar maxamud deegaan..the most warrior like of all reer puntland. santa knew it wasnt going to fly but it was mere warm up. this admin is not welcomed in dhuusomareeb, caabudwaq balanbal hobyo and all other districts..yet my man started his franchise in gaalkacyo. it was to create a window for their masters to take advantage off..had this war continued it would have definitely reached a point of no return. ina Sharmaarke iyo axmad madoobe diffused this thing by force inorder to sweep it under the rug quickly..after the ceasefire had been agreed on they started again but then again quickly diffused against their will..

this war was planned funded instigated and executed from xamar just to get a foot in..

cumar maxamuud and sacad don't see eye to eye, but anybody tell you tht this war was between sacad iyo cumar maxamuud is a worser liar than george w bush and boy was he a liar or wht. sacad elders confirmed during the meditation prior to the start of the war tht its out of their hands.

3) we are not just guns blazing we are a politically stable state with deep connections and the involvement of the EU and UN to be a witness was a puntland move. garowe is miles ahead of xsram in terms of international relations..dnt look at the un base there..xamar leaders are are mere factory employees employed by the un.

4) don't worry, they wont enter mudug anytime soon, reer puntland are too proud to allow tht level of stupidity.

5) xassan sheikhs time is finished, wasted on preventing jubaland from becoming jubaland..

6)somaliland and puntland have their thing..sool sanaag and cayn are harti territories and are by default part of puntland. unless reer dhulbahante come up with a genuine state rather thn somaliland-proxy fronts such as ssc or khaatumo..one tht we can support we will never drop tht claim..however, as a puntlander besides our silly politics aside we couldn't wish for better neighbours in soo many ways..and i would welcome the integration anyday over our neighbours down south..anybody who knows me knows my feelings towards our northetn and our southren neighbours..they are light years apart in 1 million and 1 ways.. to start with dee dad na waa somaalidi la garanayay kuwana lama ba yaqaan ba dhaqankooda..

[theyuusuf143]

whitehartlane

its all about the people. The more puntland people read watch or listen how ugly and destructive amisom are the more they will protest against it. never trust those stupid politicians. the reason why the south is under full occupation is because forein intervention became normal. you remember how they were hot blooded after the maxaakiin when ethiopia invaded mogadishu. their people tired of patriotism the worst is their so called intelectuals and political analasysts always glorify Ethiopia. just read the above sahal comments. he always make ethiopia bigger than its. in reality ethiopia is nothing but an other poor country trying to survive without Somali trouble same goes to kenya. none of them have the capacity or resources to dictate any thing beyond their borders. thet too are just Western puppets.

[MRnutritionist]

Bipartisan Somaliland/Puntland States

9/12 2015 Somaliland a Federation of Somali government, this is the Costs of Missing the Millennium political goal

brief history of time

!991 Civil war

1991 May 18 SNM declared Somaliland independent
1998 Puntland was built a mirror image of Somaliland coincident but in the eyes of political watchdog and international community this is a Setbacks to Somalilands recognition politics.
2015 Somaliland and Puntland on same page against another Somali state the GM This is only good news its part of the Checks and Balances of the Somali fed gov.

[Rambie]

Don't know how I was tagged here several times? ....

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Our fate is not tied to theirs. By injecting yourselves into their pathetic affairs you connect Somaliland to a country that we claim we have no connection to.

If Somalilanders like yourself believe that it is within your right to "defend" a tribal enclave that opposes your legitimate existence then you're not different from SL leaders.

Lol, my friend, there's only one type of legitimacy - it's the one backed by the gun. A white guy scribbling lines on a map of Africa 100 years ago is not legitimacy. You either back-up your claims of independence by the gun or you sit the fck down and continue to print Disney-dollars and Disney passports while the so-called SL leaders take their orders from Ethiopia, the real leaders.

[cheifaqilbari]

[quote="Xildiiid"]Our fate is not tied to theirs. By injecting yourselves into their pathetic affairs you connect Somaliland to a country that we claim we have no connection to.

If Somalilanders like yourself believe that it is within your right to "defend" a tribal enclave that opposes your legitimate existence then you're not different from SL leaders.[/quote Here is man who writes sense. Hear hear . To use a turkish proverb "Peace in the world ,peace at home (JSL)".

[Xildiiid]

Our fate is not tied to theirs. By injecting yourselves into their pathetic affairs you connect Somaliland to a country that we claim we have no connection to.

If Somalilanders like yourself believe that it is within your right to "defend" a tribal enclave that opposes your legitimate existence then you're not different from SL leaders.

This is a matter of security not legitimacy. You clearly know None of those foreign actors active in the south recognizes Somaliland sovereignty. in fact they will exploit the low scale tesnsion between us and puntland or kastumo rebels into a bloody full scale war. Somaliland existences depens on our own abilility, nobody will assist us if things get serious, we are not under the protection of any international law as the republic of Somaliland. for that reason we better keep puntland out of foreign boots so that our de facto entity can survive longer peacefully.

You're making up excuses..

If you have a problem, you deal with that problem and you eliminate it.

I don't understand this desire you and the majority of Isaaq share that's based on attaching yourselves to others. The real issue is not AMISOM, it's simply your lack of confidence.

[JSL3000]

Fuck puntland, fuck somalia it's the same shit two crabs in a bucket don't touch it