Habergedir at it again this Time Biimaal in Marka Shabeelaha Hoose Karbash never gets old

[Rabshoole]

If Hg and or Abgaal were truly fighting the Biyomaal would have faced the same fate as the Ajuuraan who were dealt a crushing defeat which cast them into the every corner of the land.

Ajuuran iyo madax-madoowe (Warday Ali, Akisho, Layiile and majority of madaxweyne Dir clans) were dealt by the hands of collective force of Somalis not by the hands of Hawiyo. Besides both the clans you've mentioned has had several attempts with no successors.

[Rabshoole]

Sxb if I throw hal marduuf khat between a Abgaal and a Habar Gidir, they would fight for it.

They probably won't HG will walk away.

Now, put Biimaal in that scenario then you've got yourself a show.

Most of you folks here probably have never met a Biimaal in real life. Wallahi caadim you can't tell them apart from Abgaal. They talk the same and they act the same, heck they even smell the same. They have this fascination with muufo iyo maraqcad. Wallahi the only recognizable differences is their appearance. Abgaal tend to have a very distinct look, which is a common distinction in many of their folks.

[AbdiWahab252]

Armaan

When was there a collective effort by the HG to fight the Biimaal? What you have here is 1 juffo of the Cayr vs. AS & Biimaal. The Habar Aaji wear the SNA outfits and the Biimaal wear the AS insignia. The nonBiimaal and NonHG clans of Marka would rather have the HG than the brutally oppressive Biimaal especially after what happened in 1993. Ask the Tuunis, Jareers, and others.

The AJuuran were defeated by the Hiiraab and expelled for good. The so called Dir alliance was cast aside as they fled to be Oromized rather than live as subjects of the Hiiraab.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Abgaal Wasakh,

Siilkii hooyadaa ee moodaa soo waydii meeshaan ka imid. Nadal fowqal nadal. Waryaa adoo Abgaal negro ah ayaa hadlaysaa. Go fetch some water, jaajanyahow salxamaha dheer

Insulting parents now are we, tough guy?

Lol ar kan isqor qor badanaa. It's f-king sad how obsessed these iidoors are with hawiyes not to mention using the same baseless rethorics as their jeberti role models. Lol try harder man.

[Django]

ABDI WAHAB IS HERE BUSY TAKING SIDES RATHER THAN LOCKING OR DELETING THIS THREAD.

SAY NO TO YUSSUF GARADISATION OF SNET.

[thegoodshepherd]

Warsheekh are you denying the fact that HG rule Lower Shabelle with an iron fist??

HG waxay gumeysteen dadki somalia ugu miskeensana. It is very sad, and there is no one to help them. The more worrying aspect if this is not the Biimaal conflict but the other clans who are too afraid to speak out.

HG have always lived in lower shabelle and can continue to live there. The problem is that they want to turn the gobol into one big plantation, and enslave everyone.

[AwRastaale]

Sicid,

Take it easy and never lose your temper with niiko expert Hawiye

Warya Warsheekh,

Slow down son. I find it funny that you call Sicid isqorqor because he is one of those minority Isaac that believe in the mamma Dir unicorn. But let me remind you that you're no different.

You are dameeri dhaan racday. An Abgaal doing niiko for Ayr is laughable especially when we know your history under Ali Mahdi, Salad Ali Jelle, Mohamed Dheere and Ali Mohamed Geedi who operated under thegoodsheperd and his beloved Abdillahi Yusuf

Horta ma tobo keentay? Did Ayr forgive you and show us the proof.

Finally our friend Abdiweli Baraxleey should entertain us with Baraxleey iyo cashaarki loo dhiigay by Puntland and Liyu Police.

He is Sacad and he has no business in Shabelle. Period. The Ayr will stone him to death for giving Gen, Gabre niiko. These is Wahabi Ayr and they don't play that HG bs.

So my friend Abdi Baraxleey should first reattach his tent in Baraxleey before drolling over the bananas of Shabelle

Even if the Ayr give one or two Sacad a pass, the MJ are still going to come after them and somehow someway will get someone to chase them out even if they hire their usual mercenary boy, the Abgaal. They have done it before many times. Remember the names above?


Majerteen using Abgaal against the Ayr

Personally I welcome Ayr exterminating Biyamaal like mosquito for political reasons. I don't give a damn about their Dir bs because I know the many fake Dir in Ethiopia. Xabad konfuur ka so qayliinaysa is just another Jaarso to me.

Finally Ayr will gain new wealth from Shabelle including a port and that means more power for them to hunt down Abgaal, their historical enemy. That's good news for the entire region. Now we got more chess pieces to play around with. Thank God useless Biyamal got eradicated.

The Haud

[JSL3000]

I'm down with the biyomaal may they beat the hutu savages,yes, beat them trespassers to a bloody plup.
I don't like land occupiers, first it was darood in jubba area killing minorities for there land, now its hg attacking biyomaal for there land, wtf is going on people are too desperate, it is wrong to kill each other for nothing while innocent people die on sideline. I condemn any hg actions they are using government equipment to kill and rape and pillage land that is not there own.where is this so called somalia government, this somalia shit is nothing but talk, there is no somalia.

[AwRastaale]

Guban,

I'm believer of Darwin doctrine. Not his atheist views on religion but the survival rule. Biyamal had no weight and in the south we need as many rival groups as possible but only the strong ones so things can stall. No point if Xamar overruns Biyamal and expands beyond Banadir.

Now we have powerful Ayr in Shabelle, the Daroods in Jubbaland backed by their Kikuyu godfather.

Puntland is the northern buffer zone and should limit Mogadishu rule beyond Baraxleey.

We have the Nation of Maay in the southwest and while Jawar is weak leader, it will take the Rahawein at least a decade to wake up and develop their own region. Once they wake up its game over. That is the day and should be backed by Borana and fighters from Oromia region.

Sometime next year, we need regional powers to establish the semi-autonomous State of Hiiraan. That should limit Galmudug expansion and also stop Shabelle chiefitan in its path. So far Hiiraan is doing its job and not only stopping Mogadishu/Galmudug expansionism at the same time but also man handling minorities that Mogadishu could exploit.


Hiiraan region a state of its own

Keep Ayr strong but the rest of HG weak. Keep Abgaal dominate in Banadir but confined them there and parts of Jowhar.

As far as I'm concern Afgoye is still unsettled issue between Abgaal and Ayr. The regional bodies should decide who goes in there. I personally support Abgaal.

That should be regional policy.

Siyassadu wa sidas rago..loma bahna ina lo baroorto tiro yar.

[JSL3000]

Its nonsense to exterminate minorities in somalia this senseless killing must stop!

The whole somalia federal bullshit is made up by power hungry shayadiiin and like faysal waraabe said ferderalism was invented for people to kill each other for power.

These shayadiin need to stop picking on minorities and fight someone there own size I'm sick of this shit

[Strategic]

Horta,dadka miyey hurdaan,1960ki ,70 years passed,alot of changes have occured.

This guy haud thinks he is kind of expert in things he know litelly nothing about,all generalizations and speculations based on 1960 &1991 stereotypes.Biyamaal has been there and will always be there.
How you limit the most powerful,influential hawiye clan,if small subclan of hawiye live in area below what do you think the rest of them.



Might be you need to worry more about your people in ethiopia dying of famine,draught rather than insert your nose in people you have no connection with nor political history.
biyamaal cant fight with ayr,it is a subclan of ayr they are trouble with and abgaal is not involved actually we are like an observer in the situation.Our farms,cattles,properties are untouched all the way to turdho and hoosingow in lower jubba-our historic grazing land.
as long as our regions in jowhar are developing,our people going to schools,we careless less who is fighting who.we are the elephant in the room.
do you see any hungry person in this picture,this is the life ,this party goes on on everynight while your people are fighting over crumbs of bread.
This is power of Money and education.

[Rabshoole]

AbdiWahab252

#50, Marka iyo Buulomareer doesn't have an ounce of AS sympathizers. 65% ( I use that loosely) of Xamar is controlled by AS, who bomb upon contingent opportunities. Charity starts at home. Cleanse AS from Xamar before getting ahead. Teeda kale, name a single clan that has been troubled or mugged by Biimaal ? On the contrary, they're are plenty who oppose Hawiye presence in S/Hoose. Furthermore, the complexities of their contemporary society has been disrupted by the presence of SNA which has a strong hawiye presence. Needless to mention Xaad iyo Diiriye resentment comments. Sure thing bud, Its 1 juffo. Warkaan oo kale caruurta snet ka dhaa dhici sxb.
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I don't know what history books you've been unraveling inadeer but everyone's had their paws on the coffin known as Ajuuran iyo Gaalo madoow. It was Mahe Direed who nailed the last spike to the known Ajuuran Dynasty.

lineages of the Biimaal of the Dir clan arrived and began to establish a Sultanate
in the area behind the coastal town of Merka in present day Lower Shabelle, after
they revolted, and defeated the Sultan of Ajuuran.

[Strategic]

actions they are using government equipment to kill and rape and pillage land that is not there own.where is this so called somalia government, this somalia shit is nothing but talk, there is no somalia

who gives HG the right to access gov equipment,Hg uses its own equipment,everyone oustide mogadishu is armed although to lesser degree,it might change in the futre,Biyamaal are also armed by alshabab.

[Rabshoole]

^^ You reek of Jeberti, rooti kuma haaye, min fadlan walaalaha irir samaale ha hadlaan in peace, naga dhax bax abaha wasye. Nacalaa idinku yaal

[Rabshoole]

Abgaal Wasakh,

Siilkii hooyadaa ee moodaa soo waydii meeshaan ka imid. Nadal fowqal nadal. Waryaa adoo Abgaal negro ah ayaa hadlaysaa. Go fetch some water, jaajanyahow salxamaha dheer

Insulting parents now are we, tough guy?

Lol ar kan isqor qor badanaa. It's f-king sad how obsessed these iidoors are with hawiyes not to mention using the same baseless rethorics as their jeberti role models. Lol try harder man.

Its quite obvious you know nothing about isaakh iyo Dir relations. These are the same people you attempted to oust out of their properties in the south and even joined Barre's regime to slaughter them in Hargeeysa, and the only folks who defended their farmland and properties since, was beesha Direed who financially supported them from the likes of you and jeberti. You insult us, your insulting them. Take inconsideration it was a isaakh man who crippled the current/previous leaders of Xamar and ruled from kismaayo to Xamar for the last eight years. Niyow iska amuus dameer oo xaarkiisa cunaayo ayaa waligaa aheed sxb. Fast forward maanta AS nin Dir ayaa gurigaadi TAX ka maamulaayo not that its something to be proud off.