The Rise of Wahabism in Somalia after 1990

[gegiroor]

As for emulating the dress of Gulf Arabs, it is just a bloody item of clothing. Which is more alien to the Somali, Western or Arab dress codes? Somalis traditionally shared more with the Arabs as a result of trade and religion than with Europeans but it is only due to the cultural and political dominance of the West that their dress code has subconsciously become the 'norm' in most of the world.

I for one do not wear a Khamis nor did I wear one when spent part of my childhood in the Middle East. Personally, I find it and the Macawis restrictive but to label it a foreign item of clothing whilst ignoring the other foreign dress codes we have imported is utter hypocrisy. To each his own me thinks.

Zuumale you're a sensible guy, the fuck outta here with this horseshit.

The Western dress code is found the world over, a by-product of shared history of colonialism and an extension of the West's softpower, waa wax aduunka aad laqabtid. I can understand that.

You can not argue for the Saudi khamiis. We do have ties with Arabs as a result of trade and religion but why the Saudi attire and not say, Egyptian? Moroccan? Algerian? Sudanese?

Would you not find it odd if Saudis started to dress up like Somalis around their mosques?

It is because of the perceived piety it supposedly emits whilst you wear it. Why do you think all of the Al Shabab militants in your regions just happen to also be from this puritanical Wahabi death cult?

Stop with the nonsense.

I never stated that Somalis do not associate the Khamis with piety, the premise of my argument was that there is no longer a distinct Somali dress code so why criticise only those that wear the Khamis? Why not rail against the Somalis political and intellectual 'elite' who have aped our colonisers and dress up in ill fitting suites to look sophisticated? Just because the rest of the world is doing it does not make it any more agreeable from a philosophical viewpoint.

Would it make a difference if pious Salafi Somalis wore Sudanese Khamis designs instead of Gulf Arab ones? Would that be more reasonable to you? Whether one likes it or not, the Prophet Mahamad SAWS was an Arab and the Khamis has a long history in the Middle East. If they think they are emulating how the Prophet SAWS dressed, rightly or wrongly, then I do not see why it should be anybody's concern how they dress as long they are not queuing up to blow up innocent civilians in a mistaken belief that they are going to heaven. It is folly to associate wearing a Khamis with terrorism; that is something one would expect from an ignorant Chav who identifies Islam with terrorism just because a few misguided Muslims commit heinous crimes. It is also weak to associate Salafism with terrorism as mainstream Salafi scholars have categorically stated that terrorist organisation are Neo-Khawarij so lay off the stereotyping.

Great post bro Zumaale.

[gegiroor]

If there has been a lot of burglary in an area, and the boys in blue see unfamiliar face in the vicinity, it's only natural for them to be suspicious.

So this is the initial stage of arrest, so bear with us while we make the necessary inquiries to determine if you are not a known burglar with a disguise.

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[gegiroor]

AbdiWahab was a religious reformer, he was not the architect of a new Islamic sect. The movement that he started is similar in spirit to the Protestant puritanical movements of the 16th century.

There is no beating around the bush that Somalis were less knowledgeable in Islam before colonisation than after it. As more students began to travel to Islamic centres of learning such as Azhar and Madina, their knowledge of the Deen increased. During our nomadic past, we were mainly not the most enlightened of Muslims. For example, it was a custom of Somali girls not to cover their hair until they were married. One could differentiate maidens from married women simply by how they wore their hair. Thus, those arguing that 'Wahabbis' corrupted the pristine Deen of the Somalis should do some basic research before they jump on the Anti-'Salafi' brigade.

As for emulating the dress of Gulf Arabs, it is just a bloody item of clothing. Which is more alien to the Somali, Western or Arab dress codes? Somalis traditionally shared more with the Arabs as a result of trade and religion than with Europeans but it is only due to the cultural and political dominance of the West that their dress code has subconsciously become the 'norm' in most of the world.

I for one do not wear a Khamis nor did I wear one when spent part of my childhood in the Middle East. Personally, I find it and the Macawis restrictive but to label it a foreign item of clothing whilst ignoring the other foreign dress codes we have imported is utter hypocrisy. To each his own me thinks.

Again another great post from bro Zumaale

[HooBariiska]

AbdiWahab was a religious reformer, he was not the architect of a new Islamic sect. The movement that he started is similar in spirit to the Protestant puritanical movements of the 16th century.

There is no beating around the bush that Somalis were less knowledgeable in Islam before colonisation than after it. As more students began to travel to Islamic centres of learning such as Azhar and Madina, their knowledge of the Deen increased. During our nomadic past, we were mainly not the most enlightened of Muslims. For example, it was a custom of Somali girls not to cover their hair until they were married. One could differentiate maidens from married women simply by how they wore their hair. Thus, those arguing that 'Wahabbis' corrupted the pristine Deen of the Somalis should do some basic research before they jump on the Anti-'Salafi' brigade.

As for emulating the dress of Gulf Arabs, it is just a bloody item of clothing. Which is more alien to the Somali, Western or Arab dress codes? Somalis traditionally shared more with the Arabs as a result of trade and religion than with Europeans but it is only due to the cultural and political dominance of the West that their dress code has subconsciously become the 'norm' in most of the world.

I for one do not wear a Khamis nor did I wear one when spent part of my childhood in the Middle East. Personally, I find it and the Macawis restrictive but to label it a foreign item of clothing whilst ignoring the other foreign dress codes we have imported is utter hypocrisy. To each his own me thinks.

Abdiwahab raxiimulah was a great man. May allah reward him.

[zidane88]

The problem is a Nomad straight from Tuulo with no educational background goes to Saudi-Arabia,attends Madinah university and comes out as Islamic Scholar. I am giving you an example: My cousin,a madina uni graduate, used to say : 'watching TV is haram'. After many years, Saudis started watching al jazeera, al arabiya and the rest of it. guess who was watching with me? the same Guy used to say it is Haraam. When i asked about it, his reply : it is about what you watch...the same answer i was giving in his- seef la bood years.
The same applies with these scholars who promote:
Wearing khamiis is better than macawis
Wearing a tent is better than Garbasaar
To donate,while themselves paid of their TV appearance.
They are as arrogant as one can be. The Prophet( bpuh) was a humble human and so should his followers.