Death for Somaliland aid killers
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[quote]MAD MAC Posted:
Secondly, let me rephrase what you wrote and tell me if you agree with it if I were talking about a non-Muslim place:
"These killed people were missionaries and everybody here know that and for me killing someone who tries to convert Christians to Islam is not a crime but a right thing to do. I don't care if they built some schools or how much they helped, who is more focked up than one who sells his religion to get some aid?"
Either, in the west, you agree with what I just wrote, or you are a hypocrit. Which is it?
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Western countries separated religion from politics, but most muslim countries claim that their country's official religion is Islam. In islamic law it's a crime to try convert muslims, but in western countries converting people is not a crime. So these missionaries were criminals who were punished.
Whoever thinks these people weren't missionaries check out this christian site crying for those killed missionaries: http://www.christianpersecution.info/fe ... dered.html
Secondly, let me rephrase what you wrote and tell me if you agree with it if I were talking about a non-Muslim place:
"These killed people were missionaries and everybody here know that and for me killing someone who tries to convert Christians to Islam is not a crime but a right thing to do. I don't care if they built some schools or how much they helped, who is more focked up than one who sells his religion to get some aid?"
Either, in the west, you agree with what I just wrote, or you are a hypocrit. Which is it?
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Western countries separated religion from politics, but most muslim countries claim that their country's official religion is Islam. In islamic law it's a crime to try convert muslims, but in western countries converting people is not a crime. So these missionaries were criminals who were punished.
Whoever thinks these people weren't missionaries check out this christian site crying for those killed missionaries: http://www.christianpersecution.info/fe ... dered.html
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I asked if you agreed, not whether or not western law shared your point of view.
Obviously, all that Muslims do by supporting prostelytization laws and apostacy laws is reinforce global opinion that Muslims are animals and Islam is trash to be destroyed and rejected wherever it is found. If you want to know why non-Muslims find Muslims arrogant, intellectually backward and basically disgusting humans, this is why.
Obviously, all that Muslims do by supporting prostelytization laws and apostacy laws is reinforce global opinion that Muslims are animals and Islam is trash to be destroyed and rejected wherever it is found. If you want to know why non-Muslims find Muslims arrogant, intellectually backward and basically disgusting humans, this is why.
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[quote="MAD MAC"]I asked if you agreed, not whether or not western law shared your point of view.
Obviously, all that Muslims do by supporting prostelytization laws and apostacy laws is reinforce global opinion that Muslims are animals and Islam is trash to be destroyed and rejected wherever it is found. If you want to know why non-Muslims find Muslims arrogant, intellectually backward and basically disgusting humans, this is why.[/quote]
mad i couldnt agree more well u said it all im muslim my self but i dont agree with many muslims who wishing death upon ppl even if theire gaalo they are gods pp god said leave my ppl alone in the koran but yet these fake muslims always twist some words and screaming kufar and shit sometimes i understand now why god punished these socalled muslims
Obviously, all that Muslims do by supporting prostelytization laws and apostacy laws is reinforce global opinion that Muslims are animals and Islam is trash to be destroyed and rejected wherever it is found. If you want to know why non-Muslims find Muslims arrogant, intellectually backward and basically disgusting humans, this is why.[/quote]
mad i couldnt agree more well u said it all im muslim my self but i dont agree with many muslims who wishing death upon ppl even if theire gaalo they are gods pp god said leave my ppl alone in the koran but yet these fake muslims always twist some words and screaming kufar and shit sometimes i understand now why god punished these socalled muslims
fagash_killer: You claim Islam and now you just said you hate muslims who wish death upon kuffaar, and same time your own nick is wishing death upon muslims. So kuffar are God's people but muslim Daarood are not? So who you stand with?
No one said innocent non-muslims should be killed, that'd be wrong, but there's not 1% innocence about missionaries.
No one said innocent non-muslims should be killed, that'd be wrong, but there's not 1% innocence about missionaries.
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Beenlow
You claim that you believe in law - Islamic law. Well, the law has to be administered. Islamic law was not in the time of the Prophet, or during the rightly guided prophets, up to each individual to administer as he saw fit. If the government of Somaliland allowed these people to come into the country, and if it allowed these people to work there, then these individuals who objected to what was going on should have taken it up with the government of Somaliland. They took the law into their own hands, which is not allowed in Shari'a.
You claim that you believe in law - Islamic law. Well, the law has to be administered. Islamic law was not in the time of the Prophet, or during the rightly guided prophets, up to each individual to administer as he saw fit. If the government of Somaliland allowed these people to come into the country, and if it allowed these people to work there, then these individuals who objected to what was going on should have taken it up with the government of Somaliland. They took the law into their own hands, which is not allowed in Shari'a.
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Beenlow
That is exactly wrong. The Prophet NEVER advocated taking the law into your own hands. He NEVER advocated individual enforcement of law. There is No Qur'anic guidance for same or Hadith. Vigalantiism is not supported ANYWHERE is Islamic jurisprudence. According to your position here, any Muslim anywhere who thinks the state is not properly enforcing an Islamic law is entitled to take the law into their own hands. There is no Islamic justification for your position.
That is exactly wrong. The Prophet NEVER advocated taking the law into your own hands. He NEVER advocated individual enforcement of law. There is No Qur'anic guidance for same or Hadith. Vigalantiism is not supported ANYWHERE is Islamic jurisprudence. According to your position here, any Muslim anywhere who thinks the state is not properly enforcing an Islamic law is entitled to take the law into their own hands. There is no Islamic justification for your position.
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it's about all principles of justices and fairness when it's only involved a white westren , that's how it is even in our homelands and our justice systems .
where were these principles and these justices when poor 17 years-old Samsam was being tutured raped by the SL police and aren't the rapist the some guys who were guarding the these prisoners in the court house
where were these principles and these justices when poor 17 years-old Samsam was being tutured raped by the SL police and aren't the rapist the some guys who were guarding the these prisoners in the court house
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As usuall the mention of Somaliland envokes a strange emotional response.
People do not look further into the issue but quickly come to thier own conclusions.
Muslim man
[quote]Dont "alas" us mate, the answers to your questions are right infront of your eyes and in the eyes everyone else with a small potion of grey matter in their head. this sentence was passed to these individuals for no anythor reason other than pleasing the britons (somalilands ilaa seben aqir masters). ask me why i say this and i tell you to get answers from your own words.
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I rest my case.
Muslim_man (What a misnomer) has already concluded that the actions of the somaliland government is wrong, because he already believed that Somalilanders were gaalo in the first place.
Another Facinating symptom of Somaliweyne reality avoidance Syndrome
People do not look further into the issue but quickly come to thier own conclusions.
Muslim man
[quote]Dont "alas" us mate, the answers to your questions are right infront of your eyes and in the eyes everyone else with a small potion of grey matter in their head. this sentence was passed to these individuals for no anythor reason other than pleasing the britons (somalilands ilaa seben aqir masters). ask me why i say this and i tell you to get answers from your own words.
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I rest my case.
Muslim_man (What a misnomer) has already concluded that the actions of the somaliland government is wrong, because he already believed that Somalilanders were gaalo in the first place.
Another Facinating symptom of Somaliweyne reality avoidance Syndrome
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[quote="Garaad_LQ"]it's about all principles of justices and fairness when it's only involved a white westren , that's how it is even in our homelands and our justice systems .
where were these principles and these justices when poor 17 years-old Samsam was being tutured raped by the SL police and aren't the rapist the some guys who were guarding the these prisoners in the court house[/quote]
Just stay out and mind your own business and there won't be no rape, tortured or killing. Simple is that. How we conduct our judiciary and legal system is within our own governmental rights. You have no say about it.
where were these principles and these justices when poor 17 years-old Samsam was being tutured raped by the SL police and aren't the rapist the some guys who were guarding the these prisoners in the court house[/quote]
Just stay out and mind your own business and there won't be no rape, tortured or killing. Simple is that. How we conduct our judiciary and legal system is within our own governmental rights. You have no say about it.
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