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With that said, it's always better to stand on your own two feet. I wouldn't want to become a minority in Somaliland. For some reason, our people have historically invested more resources in building other people's houses rather than their own. They'd rather invest in hargeysa or Boosaaso rather than improve their own degaan which is a shame.

As for the calaacal of qabiilists like this X guy, I stopped taking this shit seriously a long time ago. All of Somalia/Somaliland is literally dirt poor. These xoolo will argue about which one is slightly worse off than the other while the rest of the world, heck, even the rest of Africa, laughs at us. I call this the "poverty Olympics".

Be angry against the Allah that made you minorities, not isaaq.

X.Playa wrote:Be angry against the Allah that made you minorities, not isaaq.

Nothing wrong with insulting clans, but refrain from mocking the religion.

And I'm not a minority, never will be.



Deuces.

You are a minority less then the jibriil abokor sub clan. Its reality whine and bitch all you want your god willed that you be a whining bitching envious minority.

kkkkkkkk you can keep yapping all you want population census never lies

X.Playa wrote:

Ben Dover wrote:X man, my old friend hope all is well. Make no mistake, at the end of the day this is a one man one vote operation, we should welcome all to SL so long as they are willing to take part in the political process. The Dhulbahante, should they choose to partake, are large enough to compete with the other subclans. I actually believe their joining could spark a big shift in SL politics, for one the Samaron instantly lose their chock hold on the vice-presidency. Old alliances may endure but new one will form too, and an Eastern 'block' is not completely without merit, especially with the West (of SL that is) taking centre stage of its politics. On the whole it can only be a good thing.

They refused to participate for no other reasons then incurable Isaaq hate , even if they join the process now they joined it not because of change of heart , no because they are desperate, and frankly speaking I will never ever trust them with a goat. Take a little nap and these guys will stab you in the back, their Daaroodism and pathology is limitless. I say let them suffer in the wild for 40 more years. I rather have the gedabursi as vice then Daarood, these guys will convey our deepest state secret to their daarood clans men. There is no way they can be trusted period.

"Deepest state secrets" lmao. This guy is talking as if Somaliland = America or something.

Raganimo wrote:As a Warsangeli, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of secession these days. That Mogadishu government is a joke. These xoolo are selling the country off to the highest bidder.

We have conflicts with the Isaaq, but as you stated these are minor skirmishes that always happen between neighbouring tribes. As a whole, we've always been cool with them and even though they might be obnoxious and display cuqdad online, there are almost always no problems in real life. There are tons of Warsangeli in the heart of Somaliland who live and work there and they are never treated any differently than anyone else.

Sxb think about the fact that you can chill in Hargeisa, Burco or Berbera, sipping some fresh mango juice any day of the weak with no problems yet you can't even set foot in your own so called "caasimad". These mooryaans will gut you like a pig the moment you set foot in "Xamar Cade". And this is supposed to be our capital. What a joke.

That makes logical sense.

Raganimo wrote:As a Warsangeli, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of secession these days. That Mogadishu government is a joke. These xoolo are selling the country off to the highest bidder.

We have conflicts with the Isaaq, but as you stated these are minor skirmishes that always happen between neighbouring tribes. As a whole, we've always been cool with them and even though they might be obnoxious and display cuqdad online, there are almost always no problems in real life. There are tons of Warsangeli in the heart of Somaliland who live and work there and they are never treated any differently than anyone else.

Sxb think about the fact that you can chill in Hargeisa, Burco or Berbera, sipping some fresh mango juice any day of the weak with no problems yet you can't even set foot in your own so called "caasimad". These mooryaans will gut you like a pig the moment you set foot in "Xamar Cade". And this is supposed to be our capital. What a joke.

Welcome inaadeer yes we have always had skirmishes that's not a big thing it's our nomadic way of life. but we have a choice to build a modern nation that we should of built in 1960. Somali reer Waaqoyi waax uma hayaan, Digil and Mirifle will out Number all Northerns in power sharing we are a little more than the .5 should we accept that? Constant war and death wax an aheyn Kama so socdan.

RoobleAlWaliid wrote:

X.Playa wrote:

RoobleAlWaliid wrote:LOL Problem always with Samaroon or Dhulbahante. Maybe the problem is with Isaaq?

Minorities always bitch.

lol says the infidel buddhist. you're a minority among your own

Loool u made me laugh he is a minority in his own clan, we share a religion with our Isaaq brothers X isku Diir ka naga daa

Tbh I think what keeps many of our clansmen from supporting Somaliland is this fear of marginalisation. But as you said, if you put daaroodnimo aside let's face it, the Somalia government won't do much for the northern regions. Hargeysa is closer than Mogadishu. It just makes more sense. We have far more in common culturally and historically with the HY and HJ than these southern tribes, including the southern daaroods. We need to become more pragmatic. More regional integration in Sanaag and Sool would benefit all of us in the end instead of this current stalemate.

Plus the way that this current government is running things is just downright pathetic. Who can tolerate 25 more years of this xoolonimo?

PS. I only speak for myself and these are my own views. Some people from my clan agree with me, others don't.

PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:

NubianQueen97 wrote:I stand for a United Somalia.

We need better leadership in Somalia, someone who cares about the people, and the nation. We need educated men like Farmajo to lead the nation. Creating multiple tribal, poor unrecocnized states won't solve it, we must share one nation, and must find a way to survive, and work towards making Somalia a better place.

Don't lose hope, better times are coming. Midnimo iyo sharafnimo. Guul Somalia, guul to every inch of our land.

Walaal that's a noble thing but we are tired of it, Qoof walba corruption, clan states, mooryanimo, corruption, tuugnimo, Xabashi loo Kala hoormaro, their own selfish interest and their clans interest before everything. Why should we be different?

We can make a difference. It's up to us to return back home and make some changes. It's up to us to rebuild our nation and take the lead. Unity is power. Insha'Allah Somalia will prosper. Keep the faith.

Dp

I can buy property in hargeysa and live there in safety. I can't do the same in my own so-called "capital". My "countrymen" would lynch me. This is the reality.

It's not much of a choice really. The only reason that the majeerteen haven't seceded themselves is because they have a dream of ruling Somalia lol. It's xukun jacayl plain and simple. They want to use the daarood card to keep their influence in Somalia. They have their own agenda and in most cases, our agenda conflicts with theirs. Most of us have no lot in Xamar politics, MJ are heavily vested in it. This isn't even about Puntland, it's about the future of Somalia.

The Hawiyes been fighting for decades and now that they've stopped killing each other off, they've invited all kinds of trash (literally) to Somalia, sold off its resources and have betrayed its people. These people live on a different planet than the rest of us. You can't share a country with people who are this destructive and short-sighted. Wallahi as much as Isaaqs can be obnoxious and extremely tribalistic, I don't see them destroying their own country like this. They are politically way more savvy than these people and understand the importance of long-term planning and the common good. These concepts are completely foreign to Hawiye.

The problem with OP and many non isaaq somalilanders is that you see somaliland as an unfortunate reality and the lesser of 2 evils. Xamar, Pl, khaatumo and somaliland are one in the same in your eyes. It's just that one of them(SL) might play more fair due to stability, thus allowing you for a bigger piece of the pie.

This mentality is flip flop in nature. We don't want landers who are here due to circumstances . Because tomorrow when the hard time comes those circumstancial landers will be the first to jump ship

Dhulos, Samaroon and Warsangeli should join the SL fold before it is too late. The unpredictable flipping has to stop and they have to have principles and stand behind those.

But just to chase the bariis for the day is neither dignity nor sustainable. No one trusts you today from your own Darood to even Hawiye because everyone knows you can flip at any time and switch shirts.

You guys are more like amateur footballers switching between clubs.

If today both of us went to Xamar, they prefer to deal with the man who told them ayeeydin usheega I don't need to cry after the aid money, which is all Xamar has over others. I rather stand my ground and see the results of my own seeds before I ask you to share the fruits of the UN man's tree.

Our strong stance will pay off and already the port deal is testimony of that.

The best is yet to come and we have tunnel vision of that despite everyone screaming "in limbo", "dreamers", "it's never going to happen".

We will prove it because principality always pays off.

The bounty belongs to the man who got dirty early on not the one who showed up when the dust has settled or is lesser.

I will eat first because I got to work first but if you happy to take my left-overs welcome.

I know Mogadishu has same stance. You didn't fight al Shabab. You didn't face the AMISOM daily abuses nor did you risk your lives to renovate half-standing buildings. You wanna eat their cake when Liido beach has returned.

Yes, it's about loyalty and what you bring to the table a lot people see northern darood as liability and not a asset I'm shocked how southern darood stayed so loyal to zoomalia after they been kicked out of xamar while northern darood haven't even invested in their own territories and live in hargeisa and burco and still doubt their northern brethren that's how you can northern darood are disloyal and indecisive that's how you lose in life instead you have to be dedicated and put effort in everything you do.

I'm still shock how some dhulos and warsangeli have Isaac blood running thru their veins and still hate isaaq which makes no sense at all.