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Re: farmaajo " Siyad bare dowlad kamay danbayn"

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Advo wrote:
Advo wrote: How did he slap them in the face :lol:

What government post '91 was better than the kacaan?

He stated facts! Somalia was in its prime during those times specially the 1970's. And inshallah his government will pave the way for other presidents to keep on passing the progressive torch.

Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) ---> Shiekh Shariif ---> Hassan Shiekh ---> Farmaajo

It's just too bad your folks see "darood"/"mareexaan" instead of :som:'s president.
nobody said they were better than kacaankii, but dismissing them is wrong. and for you defend him because waa adeerka is doqonimo :down: be a man and call him out!
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This is a 1969 CIA report on the day of the coup. It was declassified recently and the cable is dated October 21, 1969 from Mogadishu.

There are couple interesting points.

1. It was announced that the Coup was jointly led by Gen Siad Barre and Gen Qorsheel (Darod/Warsangeli) and they were closely working together as Head of the Army and Head of the Police.

2. Even before the Coup Siad Barre was an "outspoken" critic of Egal viewing him as capitulating to Ethiopia. The CIA has observed that Siad Barre had been personally ordering the supply of Oromo separatists even against the wishes of the government who were giving into Ethiopia.

3. The report says that Somalia was UNSTABLE even before Barre's government. The CIA in OCTOBER 21 1969 writes that the Army is DIVIDED along tribes and that Somali tribes are heavily armed.

I like the rosy picture people paint of the 1960's. Like Smarty says of that time and as the CIA observed of the country, Barre's government really gave thr country it's first real union, development, and progress.

There wasn't a real Somali government before or after Barre ANYWHERE.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 9OXGqHt60g
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As though one can call Afweyne Bares dictatorship a governmet. A government that supposedly was anti tribalism while it had a daily 12 page NSS briefing for Daarood generals. On every day the NSS delivered a 12 page clan news to Afweyne, nuur bidaar & co. It was open tribalism reer hebel did this and reer hebel said this and the mission of destroying reer hebel went smoothly.

At least in the 1960s the government however corrupt never practiced the diabolical Afweyne tribalism.
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Voltage wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:40 pm This is a 1969 CIA report on the day of the coup. It was declassified recently and the cable is dated October 21, 1969 from Mogadishu.

There are couple interesting points.

1. It was announced that the Coup was jointly led by Gen Siad Barre and Gen Qorsheel (Darod/Warsangeli) and they were closely working together as Head of the Army and Head of the Police.

2. Even before the Coup Siad Barre was an "outspoken" critic of Egal viewing him as capitulating to Ethiopia. The CIA has observed that Siad Barre had been personally ordering the supply of Oromo separatists even against the wishes of the government who were giving into Ethiopia.

3. The report says that Somalia was UNSTABLE even before Barre's government. The CIA in OCTOBER 21 1969 writes that the Army is DIVIDED along tribes and that Somali tribes are heavily armed.

I like the rosy picture people paint of the 1960's. Like Smarty says of that time and as the CIA observed of the country, Barre's government really gave thr country it's first real union, development, and progress.

There wasn't a real Somali government before or after Barre ANYWHERE.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 9OXGqHt60g

this is an alternative fact :eat:
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X.Playa wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:18 pm As though one can call Afweyne Bares dictatorship a governmet. A government that supposedly was anti tribalism while it had a daily 12 page NSS briefing for Daarood generals. On every day the NSS delivered a 12 page clan news to Afweyne, nuur bidaar & co. It was open tribalism reer hebel did this and reer hebel said this and the mission of destroying reer hebel went smoothly.

At least in the 1960s the government however corrupt never practiced the diabolical Afweyne tribalism.
Nuur Bidaar (AUN) was my actual uncle and served his nation with distinction.

Unfortunately the government in later years did have negatives, no objective person can deny that. However that was after 1980 when major mistakes were made that unfortunately did contribute to the civil war.

The point is WHEN Barre came to power, his government really did save a country on the sick bed. Imagine for 10 years and dozens of guddi they couldn't even decide which orthography to use due to the stifling bureacracy and malaise of the heavily politically divided country.

With the assassination of the President and political squabbling the CIA observes the country is heavily tribalistic, armed, and the army was tribally divided and at risk of serious instability. The assessment they gave on October 21, 1969 is the same one that could have been given to Somalia in 1990.

And yet we havr people like you and other revisionists who would have us believe things were rosy and Siad Barre introduced tribalism.

Siad Barre took over a country of hyenas and just as it descended into a country of hyenas in 1991.
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Voltage wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:45 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:18 pm As though one can call Afweyne Bares dictatorship a governmet. A government that supposedly was anti tribalism while it had a daily 12 page NSS briefing for Daarood generals. On every day the NSS delivered a 12 page clan news to Afweyne, nuur bidaar & co. It was open tribalism reer hebel did this and reer hebel said this and the mission of destroying reer hebel went smoothly.

At least in the 1960s the government however corrupt never practiced the diabolical Afweyne tribalism.
Nuur Bidaar (AUN) was my actual uncle and served his nation with distinction.

Unfortunately the government in later years did have negatives, no objective person can deny that. However that was after 1980 when major mistakes were made that unfortunately did contribute to the civil war.

The point is WHEN Barre came to power, his government really did save a country on the sick bed. Imagine for 10 years and dozens of guddi they couldn't even decide which orthography to use due to the stifling bureacracy and malaise of the heavily politically divided country.

With the assassination of the President and political squabbling the CIA observes the country is heavily tribalistic, armed, and the army was tribally divided and at risk of serious instability. The assessment they gave on October 21, 1969 is the same one that could have been given to Somalia in 1990.

And yet we havr people like you and other revisionists who would have us believe things were rosy and Siad Barre introduced tribalism.

Siad Barre took over a country of hyenas and just as it descended into a country of hyenas in 1991.
Indeed nuur bidaar served but served his tribe. An arrogant swaggering fool who was high on mareexaan power. Nothing was decent about him or Afweyne. Nuur Bidaar was the man upon delivery of a poor Majeerteen opposition leader from Uganada went personally to the airport to pic him up and vowed he will never have mercy on him even Afweyne interceded on the mans behalf Mr Bidar never budged and the man was never heared from again. Yes indeed he was your uncle and had you in jis lab feeding you but he was one if the dirtest Afweyne operative and his end was a poetic justice to that regime.

Just beacuse the country was corrupt it doesnt mean your uncle Afweyne was a good man. In the 1960-1969 no people were excuted and no women were massively raped and there was no torture dungens.

All the above was introduced by your tribal prophet Afweyne.
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X.Playa wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:04 am
Voltage wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:45 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:18 pm As though one can call Afweyne Bares dictatorship a governmet. A government that supposedly was anti tribalism while it had a daily 12 page NSS briefing for Daarood generals. On every day the NSS delivered a 12 page clan news to Afweyne, nuur bidaar & co. It was open tribalism reer hebel did this and reer hebel said this and the mission of destroying reer hebel went smoothly.

At least in the 1960s the government however corrupt never practiced the diabolical Afweyne tribalism.
Nuur Bidaar (AUN) was my actual uncle and served his nation with distinction.

Unfortunately the government in later years did have negatives, no objective person can deny that. However that was after 1980 when major mistakes were made that unfortunately did contribute to the civil war.

The point is WHEN Barre came to power, his government really did save a country on the sick bed. Imagine for 10 years and dozens of guddi they couldn't even decide which orthography to use due to the stifling bureacracy and malaise of the heavily politically divided country.

With the assassination of the President and political squabbling the CIA observes the country is heavily tribalistic, armed, and the army was tribally divided and at risk of serious instability. The assessment they gave on October 21, 1969 is the same one that could have been given to Somalia in 1990.

And yet we havr people like you and other revisionists who would have us believe things were rosy and Siad Barre introduced tribalism.

Siad Barre took over a country of hyenas and just as it descended into a country of hyenas in 1991.
Indeed nuur bidaar served but served his tribe. An arrogant swaggering fool who was high on mareexaan power. Nothing was decent about him or Afweyne. Nuur Bidaar was the man upon delivery of a poor Majeerteen opposition leader from Uganada went personally to the airport to pic him up and vowed he will never have mercy on him even Afweyne interceded on the mans behalf Mr Bidar never budged and the man was never heared from again. Yes indeed he was your uncle and had you in jis lab feeding you but he was one if the dirtest Afweyne operative and his end was a poetic justice to that regime.

Just beacuse the country was corrupt it doesnt mean your uncle Afweyne was a good man. In the 1960-1969 no people were excuted and no women were massively raped and there was no torture dungens.

All the above was introduced by your tribal prophet Afweyne.
Sometimes you saying good thinks saxiib :up: .

Afweyne AUN had dilemma when he hear MJ ama Isaaq the both clans that holding somalia before 1969 .
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The kacasn created a myth of victimhood for themselves. The myth states that somehow the abgaal Majeerteen and isaaq monoplized power beacuse they claim as Farmaajo did in his thesis that these clans served the colonialist and were rewarded by the Europeans.

Hence the alliance of mareexaan dhuloos and ogaden headed by Afweyne as the new mad mullah. Hell even Afweyne invented a dervish history for his father and grandfather.

Voltage think he knows better then the rest of us beacuse he is an inside mareexaan but i doubt if he knows anything about that dark chapter of somali history.

The older mareexaan generation dont hide shit they say it in the open that Afweyne govermnment was the mother of tribalism.
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X.Playa wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 am The kacasn created a myth of victimhood for themselves. The myth states that somehow the abgaal Majeerteen and isaaq monoplized power beacuse they claim as Farmaajo did in his thesis that these clans served the colonialist and were rewarded by the Europeans.

Hence the alliance of mareexaan dhuloos and ogaden headed by Afweyne as the new mad mullah. Hell even Afweyne invented a dervish history for his father and grandfather.

Voltage think he knows better then the rest of us beacuse he is an inside mareexaan but i doubt if he knows anything about that dark chapter of somali history.

The older mareexaan generation dont hide shit they say it in the open that Afweyne govermnment was the mother of tribalism.
Just check on Syria it much similar to Somalia in 70s and 80s .
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X.Playa wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:04 am
Voltage wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:45 pm
X.Playa wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:18 pm As though one can call Afweyne Bares dictatorship a governmet. A government that supposedly was anti tribalism while it had a daily 12 page NSS briefing for Daarood generals. On every day the NSS delivered a 12 page clan news to Afweyne, nuur bidaar & co. It was open tribalism reer hebel did this and reer hebel said this and the mission of destroying reer hebel went smoothly.

At least in the 1960s the government however corrupt never practiced the diabolical Afweyne tribalism.
Nuur Bidaar (AUN) was my actual uncle and served his nation with distinction.

Unfortunately the government in later years did have negatives, no objective person can deny that. However that was after 1980 when major mistakes were made that unfortunately did contribute to the civil war.

The point is WHEN Barre came to power, his government really did save a country on the sick bed. Imagine for 10 years and dozens of guddi they couldn't even decide which orthography to use due to the stifling bureacracy and malaise of the heavily politically divided country.

With the assassination of the President and political squabbling the CIA observes the country is heavily tribalistic, armed, and the army was tribally divided and at risk of serious instability. The assessment they gave on October 21, 1969 is the same one that could have been given to Somalia in 1990.

And yet we havr people like you and other revisionists who would have us believe things were rosy and Siad Barre introduced tribalism.

Siad Barre took over a country of hyenas and just as it descended into a country of hyenas in 1991.
Indeed nuur bidaar served but served his tribe. An arrogant swaggering fool who was high on mareexaan power. Nothing was decent about him or Afweyne. Nuur Bidaar was the man upon delivery of a poor Majeerteen opposition leader from Uganada went personally to the airport to pic him up and vowed he will never have mercy on him even Afweyne interceded on the mans behalf Mr Bidar never budged and the man was never heared from again. Yes indeed he was your uncle and had you in jis lab feeding you but he was one if the dirtest Afweyne operative and his end was a poetic justice to that regime.

Just beacuse the country was corrupt it doesnt mean your uncle Afweyne was a good man. In the 1960-1969 no people were excuted and no women were massively raped and there was no torture dungens.

All the above was introduced by your tribal prophet Afweyne.
Delusional. I have tried paltalk a couple of times and first went on there when I was in College. At that time everyone knew your name and your history as a lying, drunk, who could be Farmaajo's uncle in age.
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X.Playa wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 am The kacasn created a myth of victimhood for themselves. The myth states that somehow the abgaal Majeerteen and isaaq monoplized power beacuse they claim as Farmaajo did in his thesis that these clans served the colonialist and were rewarded by the Europeans.

Hence the alliance of mareexaan dhuloos and ogaden headed by Afweyne as the new mad mullah. Hell even Afweyne invented a dervish history for his father and grandfather.

Voltage think he knows better then the rest of us beacuse he is an inside mareexaan but i doubt if he knows anything about that dark chapter of somali history.

The older mareexaan generation dont hide shit they say it in the open that Afweyne govermnment was the mother of tribalism.
Beyond the rest of your calaacal, many Marehan were in the Dervish movement to quash the British and their servants whose history you seem to be proud of.

Out of Marehan, reer Kooshin were especially impacted. Barre Hiiraale's grandfather (also reer Kooshin) Shire Guuleed Warsame becamed orphaned as well. The Marehan supporters of the Sayid were led by Shabeel Carab (rer Kooshin Diini) whose close cousins including Siad Barre's father and Barre Hiiiraale's grandfather especially suffered the consequence.

My great grandma is Calowla Aw-Abdi Adan, Cali-Dhuux Adan's niece. My mother's paternal grandfather was a follower of Shabeel Carab and married Calowla in Buuhodle while fighting the English and his servants.
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Here is a gabay being recited by mom concerning when rer Gorod (Cali Geri/Dhulbahante) led by her great-uncle Cali Dhuux mutinied for a bit because they thought they were disproportionately suffering loses as a result of following the Sayyid. Her grandmother taught her.

No one needs to invent anything British bootlicker. Siad's father did die in the Dervish wars making him an orphan and many Marehan in Wardheer did support the Sayyid.

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Voltage wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:27 am
X.Playa wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 am The kacasn created a myth of victimhood for themselves. The myth states that somehow the abgaal Majeerteen and isaaq monoplized power beacuse they claim as Farmaajo did in his thesis that these clans served the colonialist and were rewarded by the Europeans.

Hence the alliance of mareexaan dhuloos and ogaden headed by Afweyne as the new mad mullah. Hell even Afweyne invented a dervish history for his father and grandfather.

Voltage think he knows better then the rest of us beacuse he is an inside mareexaan but i doubt if he knows anything about that dark chapter of somali history.

The older mareexaan generation dont hide shit they say it in the open that Afweyne govermnment was the mother of tribalism.
Beyond the rest of your calaacal, many Marehan were in the Dervish movement to quash the British and their servants whose history you seem to be proud of.

Out of Marehan, reer Kooshin were especially impacted. Barre Hiiraale's grandfather (also reer Kooshin) Shire Guuleed Warsame becamed orphaned as well. The Marehan supporters of the Sayid were led by Shabeel Carab (rer Kooshin Diini) whose close cousins including Siad Barre's father and Barre Hiiiraale's grandfather especially suffered the consequence.

My great grandma is Calowla Aw-Abdi Adan, Cali-Dhuux Adan's niece. My mother's paternal grandfather was a follower of Shabeel Carab and married Calowla in Buuhodle while fighting the English and his servants.
Voltage, you just gave X.Playa what he has been craving for all these time and that's to be taken serious. You gave him a serious reply, one you've given him far too many times in the past. I don't why you'd legitimize his irrelevant claims. Just laugh at it and keep moving.
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Truth hurts. Thats why you began to howl. Do you think a four line stanza by some dhulbahante woman and your Daarood mythologies about a band of robbers will sway me and change history.? English that and British that amounts to nothing.

Fact is the slayers of women and children were the dervish not the English and thats the crux of the argument. Your papa Afweyne Bare glorified bands of camel rustlers have been exposed plenty of times and none of your cancerous clannish howls will add anything to that a fore gone conclusion.

The British fed hepled armed and protected the Dhulbahante from total extermination by the dervish. The Dhulbahante begged the British to appoint district commisioers to their land. Both the house of commons and house of lords debated the total extermination of the Dhulbahante and argued its a matter of morality not treaty . Their orphans the likes of Jeengali were shipped to the roman Catholic mission in Aden and fed and schooled along liberated slave childern and you are relying on your dhulose mother for history lessons debating me. I doubt if any of your Daarood gurus can stand the actual history of the cursed dervish never mind some woman.

Your daddy Afweyne was in the british colonial police by your standards he was a lacky yet out of sick twisted tribally driven logic you absolove his career of servitude.

Never mind the tin pot dictator the very mullah your lot worship was nothing but a trousers boy for British officers in Berbera he washed their pants and nickers, both of his elder relatives Ducaale Liiban his father in law and Deria Magan his adopted father served the British as cooks and cleaners.

Iam afraid my friend when it comes to the business of dabo dhilifnimo your daaroods had the absolute monopoly.
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Bootlicker. That's the only ignoble history you ever had and still have. You're probably finishing up a bottle right now so I can't really blame you.
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