Northern Harti and Isaaq: Political Enemies

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Xaarplayer you are Musse cabdale right?

1. ISAAQ
2. Garxajis
3. HY
4. Caare
5. Ismaail
6. Abdale
7. Muuse

Me

1. Darood
2. Kablalax
3. Kombe
4. Harti
5. Dhubahante
6. Muse
7.Abdale
8. Habarwa
9.. Garaad Shirshore
10. Maxamuud Garaad.



Baal yaad ka badantahay?

Axmed Garaad na waan Huba ineey iska celin karaan Cidkasta. Baal soo daya Solomadoow lol

[Tijoux]

So let me get this straight, according to idoors kabalax and garxajis waa siimaanyihin

[Sharmarke91]

Blood and Bone: The Call of Kinship in Somali Society
By I. M. Lewis

Census? can you read on the top of the table it says, "Estimated population distribution of the Somalis". Nigga the Somali state of Ethiopia is not called the Ogaden for no reason. Your villages of Gashamo & Aware are negligible.

Seriously, are you using cities to proof laandheerimo? lol sxb your entire population lives in two cities (Hargeisa & Burao) and two towns (Gabiley & Berbera. That doesn't proof anything.

let's compare that to Harti, forget about Darod (taas doodi Kama jirte).

The sub-clan of Harti settles in a territory 3 thrice the size of the entire Idoor territory.

Cities - Bosaaso, Las Anod, Garowe, Qardho & 1/2 of Galkacyo.
Towns - Badhan, Dhahar, El Dahir, Buuhoodle, Bacaadweyn, & Burtinle.

The populations of the afore mentioned places alone equals to the entire Idoor population.

I don't think you have ever in your life gone to school or even engaged in any logical argument. A large desert has nothing todo with population size we are talking about people not sand and stones. I live in canada the second largest country on earth and its population is tiny.

Now when i aske you where you got your silly table one needs a more elaborate answer then I.M.Lewis. Lewis didn't conduct a census on somali clans so why should we believe his scribble most sane human beings wouldn't argue that single clan inhabit Ethiopia nor Jabuti or NFD or anywhere in somali region. So why only Ethiopia.?

So far you and your people failed to account for the imaginary 12 million Daaroods lol.

Bitch you don't acknowledge population estimates by non biased entities or academics and you don't accept the results of government conducted censuses. Tell me how the fuck else would like me to proof to you the numerical superiority of the Noble Honourable Darod clan over the ignoble untouchable Idoor clan.

[skywalker25]

Blood and Bone: The Call of Kinship in Somali Society
By I. M. Lewis

Census? can you read on the top of the table it says, "Estimated population distribution of the Somalis". Nigga the Somali state of Ethiopia is not called the Ogaden for no reason. Your villages of Gashamo & Aware are negligible.

Seriously, are you using cities to proof laandheerimo? lol sxb your entire population lives in two cities (Hargeisa & Burao) and two towns (Gabiley & Berbera. That doesn't proof anything.

let's compare that to Harti, forget about Darod (taas doodi Kama jirte).

The sub-clan of Harti settles in a territory 3 thrice the size of the entire Idoor territory.

Cities - Bosaaso, Las Anod, Garowe, Qardho & 1/2 of Galkacyo.
Towns - Badhan, Dhahar, El Dahir, Buuhoodle, Bacaadweyn, & Burtinle.

The populations of the afore mentioned places alone equals to the entire Idoor population.

I don't think you have ever in your life gone to school or even engaged in any logical argument. A large desert has nothing todo with population size we are talking about people not sand and stones. I live in canada the second largest country on earth and its population is tiny.

Now when i aske you where you got your silly table one needs a more elaborate answer then I.M.Lewis. Lewis didn't conduct a census on somali clans so why should we believe his scribble most sane human beings wouldn't argue that single clan inhabit Ethiopia nor Jabuti or NFD or anywhere in somali region. So why only Ethiopia.?

So far you and your people failed to account for the imaginary 12 million Daaroods lol.

Bitch you don't acknowledge population estimates by non biased entities or academics and you don't accept the results of government conducted censuses. Tell me how the fuck else would like me to proof to you the numerical superiority of the Noble Honourable Darod clan over the ignoble untouchable Idoor clan.

The claims made by the white author - regardless of his independence - are null and void. The whole of the occupied Somali region is not occupied by Darods. You can argue they are the largest, but not the only tribe who inhabit this region. That's school boy nonsense.

X.Playa has made one claim and you had to jump to Darod to counter it. His claim that the whole Ahmed Garad (a confidereation of many Dhulbahnte tribes) was fighting a single small tribe the Solomadow. Now if all ilma Cabdalleh ( Ahmed Farah and Reer Dahir plus Solomadow) got involved to even the numbers. Well things would have gone from bad to a total disaster for you guys.

The last time this happened Caynaba changed hands. It's always the case you guys pick on much smaller tribes, in the hope of over powering them with sheer numbers. But wallahi, the Solomadow have heart and constantly keep pushing you guys going back 100 years. Even the land a whole section of the Dhulbahante is fighting them in is your land. WTF...

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Solomadoow is too laangaab for Axmed Garaad? Lol haye bal send in reinforcements, all of Cabdale we will send all of Garaad Faraax. (Do you really believe we don't know you were in it too)

100 years ago you were assisting the British Saxiib Xininyo ingiris Haa igu Faniin. Dhul aan Ingris, Darawiish iyo Dagaal uga tagaay, ha modiin in aad awood kuu qadatay.

[skywalker25]

Solomadoow is too laangaab for Axmed Garaad? Lol haye bal send in reinforcements, all of Cabdale we will send all of Garaad Faraax. (Do you really believe we don't know you were in it too)

100 years ago you were assisting the British Saxiib Xininyo ingiris Haa igu Faniin. Dhul aan Ingris, Darawiish iyo Dagaal uga tagaay, ha modiin in aad awood kuu qadatay.

Sxb, you guys like to project this macho image for outsiders consumption. The truth however is far from that rosy.

I can honestly swear if Silanyo was not president and it's was Ilma Cabdallah versus you guys, it would be a white wash. You have been given one hell of a fight by Solomadow alone. Lol

Ps, Caynaba changed hands long after the Darwish wars. It was you who started the conflict with your arrogance. Just like today and Buhoodle will go the same way, once Habar Jeclo says enough!!

[skywalker25]

Solomadoow is too laangaab for Axmed Garaad? Lol haye bal send in reinforcements, all of Cabdale we will send all of Garaad Faraax. (Do you really believe we don't know you were in it too)

100 years ago you were assisting the British Saxiib Xininyo ingiris Haa igu Faniin. Dhul aan Ingris, Darawiish iyo Dagaal uga tagaay, ha modiin in aad awood kuu qadatay.

Sxb, you guys like to project this macho image for outsiders consumption. The truth however is far from that rosy. In that region you are the weakest link, being attacked from every corner. You have lost more land than even some North American Indians. It's easy to claim you fought the British, but the truth is a small Habar Jeclo subtribe gave you one bloody nose. And this has always been the case. But, they say an empty barrel makes the most noise...

I can honestly swear if Silanyo was not president and it's was Ilma Cabdallah versus you guys, it would be a white wash. You have been given one hell of a fight by Solomadow alone. Lol

Ps, Caynaba changed hands long after the Darwish wars. It was you who started the conflict with your arrogance. Just like today and Buhoodle will go the same way, once Habar Jeclo says enough!!

[Sharmarke91]

The claims made by the white author - regardless of his independence - are null and void. The whole of the occupied Somali region is not occupied by Darods. You can argue they are the largest, but not the only tribe who inhabit this region. That's school boy nonsense.

X.Playa has made one claim and you had to jump to Darod to counter it. His claim that the whole Ahmed Garad (a confidereation of many Dhulbahnte tribes) was fighting a single small tribe the Solomadow. Now if all ilma Cabdalleh ( Ahmed Farah and Reer Dahir plus Solomadow) got involved to even the numbers. Well things would have gone from bad to a total disaster for you guys.

The last time this happened Caynaba changed hands. It's always the case you guys pick on much smaller tribes, in the hope of over powering them with sheer numbers. But wallahi, the Solomadow have heart and constantly keep pushing you guys going back 100 years. Even the land a whole section of the Dhulbahante is fighting them in is your land. WTF...

The author estimated that 500,000 people lived in the Ogaden region. He estimated that 400,000 of those people were Darod and 100,000 were the other Somali clans such Samaroon, Essa, Idoor etc.

The Kalshaale conflict was between Somaliland and reer Buuhoodle. It might of started with a few Dabacayuun trespassing on our territory (Siilmadow) initially but it escalated to an all out war between reer Buuhoodle and Isaaqland. Eventually, the reer Buuhoodle mujaahidin defeated the Idoor cowards. That's why Buuhoodle is till this day in the firm hands of it's inhabitants.

[skywalker25]

The claims made by the white author - regardless of his independence - are null and void. The whole of the occupied Somali region is not occupied by Darods. You can argue they are the largest, but not the only tribe who inhabit this region. That's school boy nonsense.

X.Playa has made one claim and you had to jump to Darod to counter it. His claim that the whole Ahmed Garad (a confidereation of many Dhulbahnte tribes) was fighting a single small tribe the Solomadow. Now if all ilma Cabdalleh ( Ahmed Farah and Reer Dahir plus Solomadow) got involved to even the numbers. Well things would have gone from bad to a total disaster for you guys.

The last time this happened Caynaba changed hands. It's always the case you guys pick on much smaller tribes, in the hope of over powering them with sheer numbers. But wallahi, the Solomadow have heart and constantly keep pushing you guys going back 100 years. Even the land a whole section of the Dhulbahante is fighting them in is your land. WTF...

The author estimated that 500,000 people lived in the Ogaden region. He estimated that 400,000 of those people were Darod and 100,000 were the other Somali clans such Samaroon, Essa, Idoor etc.

The Kalshaale conflict was between Somaliland and reer Buuhoodle. It might of started with a few Dabacayuun trespassing on our territory (Siilmadow) initially but it escalated to an all out war between reer Buuhoodle and Isaaqland. Eventually, the reer Buuhoodle mujaahidin defeated the Idoor cowards. That's why Buuhoodle is till this day in the firm hands of it's inhabitants.

This one fell on his head when his mother shitted him at birth.
Go learn the difference between estimation and facts. What an idiot.

1, the fight is in YOUR land which basically means YOU'RE the victim.

2, Why would whole of Somaliland be involved when not even Habar Jeclo hawd are not fighting.

3, Buhoodle is your second largest town and has a collection of different Dhulbante tribes, and these Solomadow guys came all the Dhulbahntes for a fight. What balls on these guys.

4, Part of Buhoodle is on the Ethiopian side. Meaning not even the original Somali government had the whole town. Lol

[X.Playa]

Somaliland army was ordered to prevent HJ retaliation after the Dhulbahante recorded that disgusting video where they attacked 9 men in Kalshaale fixing a water reservoir. As they video went a camera man an two or three cars followed a group of Dhulbahante. They knew it was an easy target, one of the cars was dispensing bundles of Qat. When the shooting began one Dhulbahante tells the camera man " iga qaad iga qaad anoo ridaya". Once the men were killed the Dhulbahante did not stay in Kalshaale they killed and run back to Buhoodle. Once the other party began to organize a retaliation party the SL government send the troops between the two clans.

The Qorilugud litigation then began all Harti was invited Suldaan Guraase been among the Harti delegates , various dignitaries attended the litigation headed by suldaan cismaan suldaan cali suldaan Madar. When it was concluded the Dhulbahante had to compensate for tge death of the 9 men and solomadow for the death of three men.Kalshaale ownership was also discussed and the delegation reached the conclusion that no particular clan owned thus grazing buffer zone.

Typical of qurjiile they disputed the judgment claiming their own Daarood sided with the Isaaq. Then they devised a plan along with the SSC they ploted to attack the SL army and make use of the incident by claiming they are a victims of Isaaq and SL attack. The result was catastrophic the SL army just chopped them like grass killing ovet 270 and their arrogance turned into a disaster. The SL army took Kalshaale , Maygaagle and all the disputed land and took over SoolJoogta to the door steps of Buhoodle. A year later their religious community were begging Isaaq religious community to call for army withdrawal they claimed women and children were dying over thirst after the SL took over al of Buhoodle wells, not a single shot was fired again after the initial fight for almost a year the SL army was drinking tea on top of their uncollected bones. The casualties is beyond 274 dead their amputees and permanently handicapped are many it was a total rout. Not once did tge SSC in Buhoodle ever again challenged the SL army till today.

[26June1960]

The claims made by the white author - regardless of his independence - are null and void. The whole of the occupied Somali region is not occupied by Darods. You can argue they are the largest, but not the only tribe who inhabit this region. That's school boy nonsense.

X.Playa has made one claim and you had to jump to Darod to counter it. His claim that the whole Ahmed Garad (a confidereation of many Dhulbahnte tribes) was fighting a single small tribe the Solomadow. Now if all ilma Cabdalleh ( Ahmed Farah and Reer Dahir plus Solomadow) got involved to even the numbers. Well things would have gone from bad to a total disaster for you guys.

The last time this happened Caynaba changed hands. It's always the case you guys pick on much smaller tribes, in the hope of over powering them with sheer numbers. But wallahi, the Solomadow have heart and constantly keep pushing you guys going back 100 years. Even the land a whole section of the Dhulbahante is fighting them in is your land. WTF...

The author estimated that 500,000 people lived in the Ogaden region. He estimated that 400,000 of those people were Darod and 100,000 were the other Somali clans such Samaroon, Essa, Idoor etc.

The Kalshaale conflict was between Somaliland and reer Buuhoodle. It might of started with a few Dabacayuun trespassing on our territory (Siilmadow) initially but it escalated to an all out war between reer Buuhoodle and Isaaqland. Eventually, the reer Buuhoodle mujaahidin defeated the Idoor cowards. That's why Buuhoodle is till this day in the firm hands of it's inhabitants.

This one fell on his head when his mother shitted him at birth.
Go learn the difference between estimation and facts. What an idiot.

1, the fight is in YOUR land which basically means YOU'RE the victim.

2, Why would whole of Somaliland be involved when not even Habar Jeclo hawd are not fighting.

3, Buhoodle is your second largest town and has a collection of different Dhulbante tribes, and these Solomadow guys came all the Dhulbahntes for a fight. What balls on these guys.

4, Part of Buhoodle is on the Ethiopian side. Meaning not even the original Somali government had the whole town. Lol

Habar Yonis, Sacad Muuse and even Gadabursi were amongst the POWs in Kalshaale wars. Habar Jeclo qof kama maqnayn. I don't know how you could deny such evidence . On the other hand, Beesha Ahmed Garaad alone were the ones fighting. Maxamuud Garaad and other Dhulbahante sub-clans were not even involved.

I think it was an unnecessary violence that could've been avoided. Isaaqa knew Kalshaale was Dhulbahante territory, but still insisted on claiming and fighting for it.

[Sharmarke91]

The claims made by the white author - regardless of his independence - are null and void. The whole of the occupied Somali region is not occupied by Darods. You can argue they are the largest, but not the only tribe who inhabit this region. That's school boy nonsense.

X.Playa has made one claim and you had to jump to Darod to counter it. His claim that the whole Ahmed Garad (a confidereation of many Dhulbahnte tribes) was fighting a single small tribe the Solomadow. Now if all ilma Cabdalleh ( Ahmed Farah and Reer Dahir plus Solomadow) got involved to even the numbers. Well things would have gone from bad to a total disaster for you guys.

The last time this happened Caynaba changed hands. It's always the case you guys pick on much smaller tribes, in the hope of over powering them with sheer numbers. But wallahi, the Solomadow have heart and constantly keep pushing you guys going back 100 years. Even the land a whole section of the Dhulbahante is fighting them in is your land. WTF...

The author estimated that 500,000 people lived in the Ogaden region. He estimated that 400,000 of those people were Darod and 100,000 were the other Somali clans such Samaroon, Essa, Idoor etc.

The Kalshaale conflict was between Somaliland and reer Buuhoodle. It might of started with a few Dabacayuun trespassing on our territory (Siilmadow) initially but it escalated to an all out war between reer Buuhoodle and Isaaqland. Eventually, the reer Buuhoodle mujaahidin defeated the Idoor cowards. That's why Buuhoodle is till this day in the firm hands of it's inhabitants.

This one fell on his head when his mother shitted him at birth.
Go learn the difference between estimation and facts. What an idiot.

1, the fight is in YOUR land which basically means YOU'RE the victim.

2, Why would whole of Somaliland be involved when not even Habar Jeclo hawd are not fighting.

3, Buhoodle is your second largest town and has a collection of different Dhulbante tribes, and these Solomadow guys came all the Dhulbahntes for a fight. What balls on these guys.

4, Part of Buhoodle is on the Ethiopian side. Meaning not even the original Somali government had the whole town. Lol

dumb retard! read before you respond,

Did I say the writer presented those figures as facts? I repeated the word ESTIMATED twice, being aware of the mental retardation the Dabacayuun people suffer from, I consciously repeated the word, so you don't have difficulty in understanding what I mean.

1 - ... and I said I resisted the Idoor invasion by slaughtering their cowardly militiamen, hence protecting my sovereignty.

2 - It's well documented that the Isaaqland milita were fully involved in this conflict under the pretence of keeping the peace.

3 - Siilmadow are nothing but Dhulbahante target practice.

4- lol and...?

[Sharmarke91]

Codad sir ah - Cabaadki ka yeedhay Idoor dagaalki Kalshaale.

Dhulbahantow ogaada waakan cadowgeeni!


Codadka;

Sillaanyo, Mohamed Kahin, Nuux Taani, Cadaami, & Faysal Ali Warabe.

http://allsanaag.com/isaqland/

http://allsanaag.com/isaqland/page/2/

[X.Playa]

Xaarplayer you are Musse cabdale right?

1. ISAAQ
2. Garxajis
3. HY
4. Caare
5. Ismaail
6. Abdale
7. Muuse

Me

1. Darood
2. Kablalax
3. Kombe
4. Harti
5. Dhubahante
6. Muse
7.Abdale
8. Habarwa
9.. Garaad Shirshore
10. Maxamuud Garaad.



Baal yaad ka badantahay?

Axmed Garaad na waan Huba ineey iska celin karaan Cidkasta. Baal soo daya Solomadoow lol

Am cigaal abokir at that segmentation not muuse cabdalle. Lool and Habar Waa isn't a man its a nickname fir Shirshoore and Khaalid meaning " those who lost their mom". Or the orphans.

In that particular segmentation comparison iam
1- isaaq
2- garxajis
3- siciid
4- care
5-Ismaaciil
6- cabdalle
7- muuse
8- abokor looge ( notice i didn't count Looge beacuse it was the nickname of Abokor )
9- cigaal abokor ( the traditional chief Akil section of Abokor Looge )

The Faarax Maxamed is totally different segmentation. Your entire Dhulbahate are Faarax Garaad and Maxamud Garaad the rest are not even 10% of Dhulbahante. Nevertheless they cant be compared to Cabdalle Ismaaciil combined Faaraax Garaad and Maxamuud Garaad are by far lesser then Cabdalle Ismaaciil.

[X.Playa]

The author estimated that 500,000 people lived in the Ogaden region. He estimated that 400,000 of those people were Darod and 100,000 were the other Somali clans such Samaroon, Essa, Idoor etc.

The Kalshaale conflict was between Somaliland and reer Buuhoodle. It might of started with a few Dabacayuun trespassing on our territory (Siilmadow) initially but it escalated to an all out war between reer Buuhoodle and Isaaqland. Eventually, the reer Buuhoodle mujaahidin defeated the Idoor cowards. That's why Buuhoodle is till this day in the firm hands of it's inhabitants.

This one fell on his head when his mother shitted him at birth.
Go learn the difference between estimation and facts. What an idiot.

1, the fight is in YOUR land which basically means YOU'RE the victim.

2, Why would whole of Somaliland be involved when not even Habar Jeclo hawd are not fighting.

3, Buhoodle is your second largest town and has a collection of different Dhulbante tribes, and these Solomadow guys came all the Dhulbahntes for a fight. What balls on these guys.

4, Part of Buhoodle is on the Ethiopian side. Meaning not even the original Somali government had the whole town. Lol

dumb retard! read before you respond,

Did I say the writer presented those figures as facts? I repeated the word ESTIMATED twice, being aware of the mental retardation the Dabacayuun people suffer from, I consciously repeated the word, so you don't have difficulty in understanding what I mean.

1 - ... and I said I resisted the Idoor invasion by slaughtering their cowardly militiamen, hence protecting my sovereignty.

2 - It's well documented that the Isaaqland milita were fully involved in this conflict under the pretence of keeping the peace.

3 - Siilmadow are nothing but Dhulbahante target practice.

4- lol and...?

SL army lost less then 50 men and your tribe lost close to 300 or precisely 274 dead. The army won every engagement and pushed your small clan to Buhoodle in the conclusion of the battle SL army was in the door step of Buhoodle itself. The army was not involved at all contrary to your mafrish claim. I followed those battles hourly the first attack on the army was initiated by your clan aftet loosing the litigation at Qorilugud your elders plotted to make the war not between dhulos and solomadow but between an army and Dhulbahante clans. By doing so you calculated once the army retaliate your " tolaayeey beesha caalamka" wail will win you international sympathy and Daarood sympathy sadly you left the Qorilugud shir with 6 extera death of solomadow but once your tail wagged the Somaliland army you lost46 times more casually total of 274. It was so disastrous your people are calling these battles " xasuuqii kalshaale"

So how did you win anything? And if you won as you claim how come the SL army was stationed in the disputed land almost a year later without having a single shot fired at them?