Sagax wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:18 am
Looool, im gonna entertain your langaab dir arse and play along.
You claiming 2 occupiued lands as Dir majority when infact its an Ethiopian and Kenyan lands by right of occupation and as for Djibouti its an tiny lands with an land mass of 23,200 km², and us HAG not only we also live in those occupied lands you claimed in Ethiopia and Kenya, but we HG alone have an state all by ourselves that far exceeds the land size of your langaab Djibouti and that HG State is Galmudug 146,000 km2 (56,000 sq mi) https://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galmudug.
Zumaale your dir folks are weak, useless and irrelevant, and thats a fact.
If you are not going to entertain me why take the time to quote me, not once, but three times in two different threads? Do you see me addressing you even once?
Truth hurts huh.
Walle it is Akhiru Zaman when a Langaab who needs to recruit our junior Samaale Brothers to stand up against more numerous clans calls out a Dir for being Langaab.
I do not need to blow my own trumpet but I shall indulge myself a bit. I live from the Bab El Mandeb to Mandhera County; from the Awash River to the Southern shores of the Indian Ocean; from waterfalls of Ceel Kari in the Bale Mountains to the lush lands where the Jubba River and Shabelle River intersect.
Like I said, without the Capital and the money that comes with it, you would be irrelevant in Somaliweyn.
I ain't got the patience to go back and forth with someone who does not know who is who or who lives where in Somaliweyn. Jog on kid.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:46 am
by original dervish
Zuumale.....I was under the impression Somali's of the Bale mountains had long been pushed east by Oromo.
Can you name any present day Somali settlements in the Bale mountains.
I've always believed the Bale mountains, with the head waters if the Shabelle and Jubba rivers must be incorporated into a future Somali state.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:11 am
by zumaale
OD
No Somali settlements directly on the Bale Mountains but adjacent to the Bale mountainous region, you find Somalis such as the Garire Dirs in the El Kari District; Gurre Dirs in Goro Baqasa, Qarsadula Districts etc. I should have been more accurate by saying next to Bale instead of 'in the Bale Mountains'.
The sources of the Jubba and Shabelle Rivers are out of reach unfortunately. Moreover, the Bale Mountains are not traditional Somali territory, not in recent History anyway, that much I have heard. Nonetheless, Somali territories adjacent to the Bale Highlands are some of the most beautiful in all of Somaliweyn.
El Kari is one of a few Somali territories where one can grow Khat due to its elevation and fertile soil.
Xildiiid wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:23 pm
If alien Dofaar Ismail from NFD, Kilil 5 and Galgaduud think they will liberate the Jubba valley from the current AS commander who’s a native Bajimaal Dir with native soldiers they should think again.
If it weren’t for the US drone strikes, AS would’ve captured Kismaayo months ago.
Sahal,
Habar Aji will get kicked out of Lower Shabeelle. Right now they’re holed up in Marka but are surrounded by Biimaal troops loyal to Waafow in Marka, Janaale and No.50.
Al Shabab are no friends of Biimaal as demonstrated by what they did in Marka District.
When the Biimaal refused to stop fighting and became allied to Amisom, AS proceeded to attack them. They actually caused more destruction as the AS are unfortunately the powerhouse in Lower Shabelle.
Secondly, there is no 'Habar Aji' menace, there never was. Contrary to what is peddled on Somalinet, no specific HG clan/clans settled the Mii of Marka but they stationed themselves in plantations and other strategic urban places like some Marka neighbourhoods and No.50. As they do not have local manpower to fall back on, the war was waged mainly by Hawiye SNA units of the 3rd and 5th brigade. These units have mostly returned to Mogadishu after the US cut funding because they were collaborating with AS, engaging in clan battles etc. With Xassan Sheikh no longer in the frame, they also lost crucial funding. To make up for this, the HG businessmen and urban inhabitants have thrown their lot in with AS by paying protection money.
Who controls the farmlands in Shalambood? Has Merca and surrounding areas been fully liberated by the SNA?
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:46 am
by theyuusuf143
Qabiilada qaar dibay u saqiiran sida xawaadlaha iyo sheekhaasha , oo ciyaal ay adeer u yihiin iyo hawiye bay bariis ka la cunaan , qabiilada qaarna heer qabiil intay ka gudbeen bay qawmiyad noqdeen. Dir ku qabiil laguma tilmaami karo waa qawmiyad , afkuun baa na mideeya iyo magaca . Markaa sagax hala yaabi dirkaba wuxu yaqaan biimaal iyo afarta midh ee xamar ku arkay. Ma oga inaan calanka qawmiyada direed qoraxdu ka dhicin
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:53 am
by Sagax
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:46 am
Qabiilada qaar dibay u saqiiran sida xawaadlaha iyo sheekhaasha , oo ciyaal ay adeer u yihiin iyo hawiye bay bariis ka la cunaan , qabiilada qaarna heer qabiil intay ka gudbeen bay qawmiyad noqdeen. Dir ku qabiil laguma tilmaami karo waa qawmiyad , afkuun baa na mideeya iyo magaca . Markaa sagax hala yaabi dirkaba wuxu yaqaan biimaal iyo afarta midh ee xamar ku arkay. Ma oga inaan calanka qawmiyada direed qoraxdu ka dhicin
Walaal aniga wixi qowmiyad i do not care especially in the occupied lands ofKenya iyo Ethiopia, what i care about is that these dir yaryars come under my Hawiye sphere just as the hawiye yaryars come under your sphere in Dir Somaliland.
ninkan Zumaale talks lots of bulshit that contradicts the reality, we all know that whats going on the ground and that Hawiye are xoog to be recognised and if we really wanted we can genocide all langaab dirs if we wished so.
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:46 am
Qabiilada qaar dibay u saqiiran sida xawaadlaha iyo sheekhaasha , oo ciyaal ay adeer u yihiin iyo hawiye bay bariis ka la cunaan , qabiilada qaarna heer qabiil intay ka gudbeen bay qawmiyad noqdeen. Dir ku qabiil laguma tilmaami karo waa qawmiyad , afkuun baa na mideeya iyo magaca . Markaa sagax hala yaabi dirkaba wuxu yaqaan biimaal iyo afarta midh ee xamar ku arkay. Ma oga inaan calanka qawmiyada direed qoraxdu ka dhicin
Walaal aniga wixi qowmiyad i do not care especially in the occupied lands ofKenya iyo Ethiopia, what i care about is that these dir yaryars come under my Hawiye sphere just as the hawiye yaryars come under your sphere in Dir Somaliland.
ninkan Zumaale talks lots of bulshit that contradicts the reality, we all know that whats going on the ground and that Hawiye are xoog to be recognised and if we really wanted we can genocide all langaab dirs if we wished so.
Every one come under your sphere politically laftarkayaga idinka lug bixi Kari la,a oo kun mile idiin jirna but everyone has his own deegaan . Lagamana qaadi Karo . Hawiye juffi Yar baa nagala degtoo dhulkooda iskuma taataabano. I fact waaban u camirnaa oo xero military oo weyn baa ka furan adhi cadeeye , taas oo dakhli iyo shaqo abuur ugu filan.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:17 pm
by zumaale
EnlightenedNomad wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:20 am
Who controls the farmlands in Shalambood? Has Merca and surrounding areas been fully liberated by the SNA?
With the exception of some plantations the Kacaan nationalised that have not been cleared of Mooryan overseers, farmland is owned mainly by indigenous subsistence and landlord farmers. If truth be told, the majority of inhabitants in the riverine area are Bantu. They are more of a silent demographic threat in my opinion.
AS are in full control of most of the District's prime agricultural land surrounding Marka town, be it Shalambood or Janaale. The grazing land from the coast to the border between Afgooye and Marka Districts is Biimaal Geeljire land where AS has a limited presence apart from places like Jilib Marka etc. along the road to Banadir.
Marka town is controlled by the former Biimaal militia leader Waafow and was liberated from AS last year.
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:46 am
Qabiilada qaar dibay u saqiiran sida xawaadlaha iyo sheekhaasha , oo ciyaal ay adeer u yihiin iyo hawiye bay bariis ka la cunaan , qabiilada qaarna heer qabiil intay ka gudbeen bay qawmiyad noqdeen. Dir ku qabiil laguma tilmaami karo waa qawmiyad , afkuun baa na mideeya iyo magaca . Markaa sagax hala yaabi dirkaba wuxu yaqaan biimaal iyo afarta midh ee xamar ku arkay. Ma oga inaan calanka qawmiyada direed qoraxdu ka dhicin
Walaal aniga wixi qowmiyad i do not care especially in the occupied lands ofKenya iyo Ethiopia, what i care about is that these dir yaryars come under my Hawiye sphere just as the hawiye yaryars come under your sphere in Dir Somaliland.
ninkan Zumaale talks lots of bulshit that contradicts the reality, we all know that whats going on the ground and that Hawiye are xoog to be recognised and if we really wanted we can genocide all langaab dirs if we wished so.
Every one come under your sphere politically laftarkayaga idinka lug bixi Kari la,a oo kun mile idiin jirna but everyone has his own deegaan . Lagamana qaadi Karo . Hawiye juffi Yar baa nagala degtoo dhulkooda iskuma taataabano. I fact waaban u camirnaa oo xero military oo weyn baa ka furan adhi cadeeye , taas oo dakhli iyo shaqo abuur ugu filan.
I have nothing against Dir, its just that this fool doqon foqol doqon Zumaale like to generalize all Hawiye and all of HG for the transgression that goes between Xawadle vs Surre ama Habar aji iyo Biimal, walahi hadi dagaal HG VS Biimaal noqon laha biimaal would have long ago been wiped.
Marka tell this fool not to generalise all of Hawiyes, adiga Yuusufow you seem reasonable so tell your dir brother zumaale to relax with the fake faan.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:39 pm
by theyuusuf143
Obviously I don't agree with zumaale. I believe it's local conflicts between small clans in the region. Meel uu hawiye intu ku shiray uu yidhi aynu biimaal ku duulno ma jirto .
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:54 pm
by Sagax
theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:39 pm
Obviously I don't agree with zumaale. I believe it's local conflicts between small clans in the region. Meel uu hawiye intu ku shiray uu yidhi aynu biimaal ku duulno ma jirto .
Exactly walaal ,
whats going on in Marka is an internal affair same shit thats going on Ceef afweyn or any other degaan where neighbourly clan conflicts that occur so generalising a whole group because of an individual sub sub sub clan is insanely stupid.
Also even HG intu meel ku shiray uu yidhi anu biimaal ku duulno xataa ma jiro, HG is massively big to gang up Biimaal, it makes no sense.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:32 pm
by Cunaaye25
The first berth of the Lamu port is complete, its coming up nicely.
Kenya is practically holding it down, Kismaayo.
If jubbland gets its act together, the potential is huge. Kismaayo could be a major hub, trans-shipment hub for goods moving to landlocked countries in East and Central Africa.
Jubbland needs a visionary leader and not a warlord.
We have no intention of moving in to Jamaame or Jilib unless the locals invite us. Because we have no interest in any land beyond the Jubba river except via Buaale as we want to get back our historical land until Serinley. We are absolutely committed to the Baardheere fight. We Ogadens don't own any land on the Eastern side of Jubba river in along the Kismaayo-Afmadow route.
For historical Jubbaland and Italian Somaliland the Jubba river is the natural border.
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:39 pm
by Nubis
Informative
Re: Kismaayo security tightening
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:44 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
balwarama wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:43 am
We have no intention of moving in to Jamaame or Jilib unless the locals invite us. Because we have no interest in any land beyond the Jubba river except via Buaale as we want to get back our historical land until Serinley. We are absolutely committed to the Baardheere fight. We Ogadens don't own any land on the Eastern side of Jubba river in along the Kismaayo-Afmadow route.
For historical Jubbaland and Italian Somaliland the Jubba river is the natural border.
You're not getting Serinley or Baardhere back. Change your avatar. That is mines.
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