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Galol: I've been in Germany, Netherlands, Norway and Greece. Czech Republic is good. A friend of mine was there the last year. The beer is so so cheap and good. Don't ask for whiskey or hard alcoholic drinks, because they're so expensive there. But beer is fantastic and really cheap. And the landscapes and cities are worthy to see. You'll enjoy the place, but keep this on mind: people go to sleep really early (compared to Spain or Italy), so you won't find a lot of fun, discos or bars at night-time.

The_Don_of_djibouti


What happened to you sxb. Taken into consideration without insult, this is quite an accomplishment. Let me see if I get this straight; We defend Islam through powerful Daliil, through other ways "Haddis"True voice of Islam to have to humanize and civilize not INSULT e.g HOOYO LA CAAYO IYO FUTO WAX LAGA SHEEGO some of your thread you had menstioned 5 times FUTO

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LE JUSTICIER

Waar mechaa maa taloo debate kow dhee.

I have never insulted someone's mother even galol's mother.

I do insult the kaffirs and the worst insult to a man is to degrage his sexual orientation (to me) and humiliate in every kind of way i can.

I have chosen this path may allah pardon me if i am doing wrong.

but for the time being i will carry on.

allahuu akbaar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gurey

The question is why should we believe Bukhari and muslim? What exactly makes them so uniquely believable? And what happens to those who reject these ORDINARY men(no prophets, angels or Gods)

I can get you a hadith to prove or disprove absolutely anything including hadeeths `proving' the prophet was bisexual(perhaps that is why his followers like Don are so annaly oriented) or mentally ill(you know the stories about his adopted black son don't you?). so how something so fluid; so much; so pointless be used as a cornerstone of Faith?

Please tell us why should anyone believe Bukhari. Except of course that ordinary Arab guys, self-appointed scholars hundreds of years after the prophet's death told you that you should believe them.

Ayaa kuu wasaa galolow.

Maa elton john baah meesey waa lagaga dambeeyeeh

Bhukari and Muslim did Islam a great service when they compiled as much hadiths as they could find.
We muslims particularlay the ones who follow the Sunna depend on the hadiths to be our guide.

Ofcourse they didnt manage to get all hadiths, but its the best that could have been done.

there is also Isnad to verify the authenticity of all ahadeeth,
Isnad was developed to become a science or Cilm as important as grammer and tafseer.

Ofcourse all this is balony to you, and you already know all this.

Gurey

that does not answer the question: Why did the Arab scholars who chose those two's stories above other stories base their judgement on?

that doesn't answer as well how big was that dhagaax

Don

You are in love with Sir Elton aren't you? this is teh umpteenth time you mentioned him. What attracts you to him? Does his songs make your ractal passages lubricated and ready for some holy pounding? perhaps you want him to sing "you live your life like a candle in the arse" for you?

Maybe you dream about drsssing up like Diana? Diana, the Don Djibouti has quite a ring to it. Keep on fantasisizing bumboy. the man is happily married now!

how about that dhaagaax?

Cos i got a jaajur as well

because they are the best compiled archive of hadiths.
Also becuase no other compilations survived from the great Libraries of the muslim world, and obviously all those people who memorised them didnt survive.

Imam bukhari lkived in the early 800's less than 2 centuries after the hijra,
while he was alive there lived tens of thousends of people who knew vast collections of hadiths by heart, it was an oral culture just lke Somalia still is.

Why cant you believe that they can memorize thousends of hadiths, if our own clans composed gabays that give a detailed view of all the clan skirmishes and histories.

Gurey

So let me get this: They had more tales to tell and that makes their work authentic?

Is this Isalmist `logic' at work?

Two hundred years is a very long time nowdays and iot was even longer then since there was less communication and generational turover was much faster.

Even somali poems do not las that long and the authticity of those who do are unclear. Most certainbly no somali literati worth his salt will categorically say they have gabays from 200 years and which are defintely authentic. and this si despite the time honoured preservative of rhyme which is in gabay and Quran but not in Hadeeth.

So what makes Bukahri Huraiarh authentic? why should anyone believe their tales 200 years after the old man's death?

Mujreem!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are five advantages to marriage: procreation, satisfy­ing sexual desire, ordering the household, providing compan­ionship, and disciplining the self in striving to sustain them.

Who cares if the Hadiths are authentic or not, the entire Islamic believe system is based on myth.

The hadiths are still usefull for they provide insight into the mindset of early muslims. They tell things Mohammed did and said muslims felt either proud or didn't see anything wrong with. We have therefore very good reason to suspect some of the stuff mentioned in the Hadiths were true, why else would muslims attribute actions to their beloved 'prophet' that in sensitive modern eyes look morally objectionable?

But why are Hadiths needed in the first place? Isn't Allah smart and articulate enough to explain his message HIMSELF to muslims in the Quran? Why does he need Mohammed and other muslims to tell his faithful how to practice their religion? Any self-refuting, contradicting entity by definition doesn't exist. This is self-refutation by Allah par excellance, hence why Allah doesn't exist.