Hating Arabs leads to Hating Rasoolullah Mohamed (pbuh)

[Cawar]

Arabman

Maybe you didn't get me the first time, I said spritual reform and for me that means straithening and building the Umma's faith from zero, then comes any other leadership you might want to achieve, cause you cant have any succes if your basis are not strong enough which is what the muslims are dealing with in today's world. So for me the Arabs are the natural selection who come to mind when it comes to teaching the proper Islam, not that the others cant do it btw, but they excell in it , thats all!


And about the Somalis, man we need a lot work to lead ourselves let alone leading the whole islamic ummah.

[The rebel]

Islam was strong when Arabs were good Muslims. As Umar said that we are nation God raise us with Islam, if we leave it we will back to worse nation.

Arabs no better than other nation they raised and became great with Islam, without Islam Arab are nothing.

[The Arabman]

"for me the Arabs are the natural selection"

Well, that's another flawed notion, which you're entitled to hold. The majority of Muslims would disagree with that flawed notion. The notion that Arab Muslims are genetically engineered for a "natural selection" is absurd. Besides, the Ummah has faith (even if it's somewhat weak); what it lacks is Islamic leadership. I don't know what "building the Umma's faith from zero" means.

[Cawar]

"Well, that's another flawed notion, which you're entitled to hold."

Well, I keep my opnion and you keep your arguments, how about that??

One Q though..

Wouldnt it be plausible to accept the notion that 100 British ESL teachers would be chosen over 100 Russian ESL teachers and hence would be the natural selection???

Now one can argue that such and such, but the fact remains that the natural selection is one and the truth/reality could be the same or different. Therefore, Arabs speak arabic.

[SomaliLight]

[quote]So for me the Arabs are the natural selection who come to mind when it comes to teaching the proper Islam, not that the others cant do it btw, but they excell in it , thats all! [/quote]

I see your point Cawer, the exclusion of the arab ummah would certainly not help islam rise from the depths it lies. But i understand that Arabman's point is that there are other ummah's like somalis and the others he named which each excell in different characteristics that would benefit islam collectively if they were to all join as a unified islamic ummah.

Arabman :[quote]quote]Why not Somalis? Ahmed Gurey's sultanate nearly brought Abyssinia on the brink of total collapse, which led to the intervention of Europeans to rescue Abyssinia. Somalis are known to be brave and formidable warriors. Provided they abandon qabilism, strengthen their Islamic faith- I don't see why they cannot lead the Ummah. That's just an example; there are the Indonesians (the most populous Muslims), Pakistanis (nuclear capable), Malaysia (technologically advanced), etc. The question is; why can't non-Arab Muslims step ahead to lead the Ummah? At least Turks and Kurds have done it before.[/quote][/quote]

Arabman 's exact statment above is one to be considered if the muslims are ever to be noted as successful people in the future...remeber turkey had to beg the EU to join the white man's union while most of the were spiting in thier faces with rejection.

......indeed something to be considered....

[The Arabman]

"Wouldnt it be plausible to accept the notion that 100 British ESL teachers would be chosen over 100 Russian ESL teachers and hence would be the natural selection???"

Well, that's a bad analogy. Islam isn't a human ESL; it's a divine ESL.

[Wise-Man]

[quote] S_lander-boy

"cause of the arabs today there is no umma" [/quote]


Neither Arabs nor Somalis and other nations alone can do any. Together, we can survive. Together we will be able to create Ummah. Together, as an Ummah, we can dominate the world. Together is what Allah (swt) wants us to hold fast His rope without any conflict. A group of us can do nothing. All what we need is to remember and follow the below verse.


And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves, And Remember Allah’s Favor on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together” [Surat 3, verse 103]

This is all what we need.

[The rebel]

I don't know what you're argueing about? You all saying the same thing but using different words. Safe your energy and time and agree to disagree!

[Aiman]

Accudu Billaahi Minna Shaytaani Rajiim

Bismillah,


I read some replies were extremly Irrelevant almost made me sick from my stomach.

I don't hate Arabs but I hate everyone who tend to be Dhabodhilif pet of the kaafirs; Whehther they be Arabs, Somalis or even my own clan.

Lets be fair here we hate our own let alone liking others. We are butchering each others clan like there is no tomorrow. Som Somalis are racist as some Arabs are except when it comes to a foreing invasion our blood boils which ofcourse is a good thing.

[The Arabman]

The rebel, you got it wrong; we are all not saying the same thing, nor using different words.

[Unclebin]

Aiman

Whats your clan?

Arabman

I hate arabs and they are my inabti. But thats because of corruption by the saudi gov't and all the other Arab puppets.

[Galol]

Rebel

"Arabs are nothing without Islam"

Do you really mean that?

For starters Arabs are human beings and all human beings can excell without the admnittedly unifying force of common ideology be it theological, spiritual; temporal or secular.

Before Islam Arabs had a masterful civilisation: written language, poetry, laws, religions, political systems and armies. Isalm did not come into a vacuum, it exploited socio-political systems and civilsations already in place.

Islam galvanised existing strengths by introducing a united ideological vehicle to drive it forward. Whether that was good for the Arabs, or for those it swept in its wake is debatable. But to claim Arabs had nothing before Islam is to falsify history itself and sell the Arab race short. Sadly many Islamists including Arab ones seem to be determined to recreate Islamist fantasy by wiping out everything that preceded Islam out of the annals of mankind.

We will be well advised not to join this bandwagon of lies.

[The rebel]

Galol

With all due respect i disagree with you. As you know me here i don't argue and engage fruiteless tit for tat here. I state my point and leave it.

Arabs never ever had any civilizations before Islam nor ever Central goverment before Islam. Prophet Mohamed was first person united Arabs under Islam. Arabs were bunch of bedioun fight and kill each other for silliest things.

I understand your piont for hatting anything about Islam and Muslims' believe but this is dishosnesty to fake the history to just have a shot on Islam.

[Aiman]

[quote="Unclebin"]Aiman

Whats your clan?

It is not Important the only thing that is more important is that I'm a Muslim believer conservative. If you insist to know I'm Somali.

Arabman

I hate arabs and they are my inabti. But thats because of corruption by the saudi gov't and all the other Arab puppets.[/quote]

That is wrong my friend just because your hate towards the gov. shouldn't hate the whole people in general.

[Unclebin]

Aiman

They should kill off their Puppet leadership. Since they aren't doing that my hate for them is merely political. Actually hate is a strong word more like a dislike.


Aiman Back to my main Q:

whats your Qabil?