Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:28 pm
"I thought we were talking about ISLAM and MUSLIMS. If we talk about Islam, we look at Qur'an and the founder of Islam, right? Not some andalusian b*tch who is breaking those rules given to us in Qur'an..."
--------->It depends on the way you read Al-Quran, either in a open-minded way (Al-Andalus) or in a retarded, narrow, literal way (wahabism). I would dare to say that who are breaking the rules right now are the salafists and wahabists: i.e. suicide bombers... where in Al Quran it's said that you have to pull a bomb in your waist and kill all the innocent civilians that you can? Wahabists and salafists give support to suicide which, in my humble opinion, is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's not the Quran itself, but the way muslims have been reading and interpreting Al-Quran through the centuries. In certain times, Al Quran helped them to be the most advanced culture and religion on the Earth and it certain times they don't have a clue of what they're reading and they're living in the dark ages. Today is a dark age (but it's only my personal opinion).
"If you are a spaniard, and you say that it's right to rape women in Spain, does that comment change the spanish law? Answer yes or no..."
------> Of course not. First: I would never say that rape is right. In the other hand, following with the example I mentioned, now some people say that murdering, killing and committing suicide is right in Islam. Now, your turn: is right to commit suicide and kill tens or hundreds of innocent civilians? Yes or no?
"How do you think that things some muslim does could change Islam?"
---->Islam is there, and you can't change it. But Islam is also what a great number of people say that Islam is. Wahabists and salafists are trying to change Islam (pervert it, in my opinion, because they have a political agenda and they need people to believe that islam is like this or like that in order to use them-----> Why Bin Laden himself didn't fly in the airplanes of New York and sent some guys in his place?)
PD: Ready to keep a healthy debate with you and waiting for your points, but I have to go now. Sorry if I take a time to reply to your next posts.
--------->It depends on the way you read Al-Quran, either in a open-minded way (Al-Andalus) or in a retarded, narrow, literal way (wahabism). I would dare to say that who are breaking the rules right now are the salafists and wahabists: i.e. suicide bombers... where in Al Quran it's said that you have to pull a bomb in your waist and kill all the innocent civilians that you can? Wahabists and salafists give support to suicide which, in my humble opinion, is strictly forbidden in Islam. It's not the Quran itself, but the way muslims have been reading and interpreting Al-Quran through the centuries. In certain times, Al Quran helped them to be the most advanced culture and religion on the Earth and it certain times they don't have a clue of what they're reading and they're living in the dark ages. Today is a dark age (but it's only my personal opinion).
"If you are a spaniard, and you say that it's right to rape women in Spain, does that comment change the spanish law? Answer yes or no..."
------> Of course not. First: I would never say that rape is right. In the other hand, following with the example I mentioned, now some people say that murdering, killing and committing suicide is right in Islam. Now, your turn: is right to commit suicide and kill tens or hundreds of innocent civilians? Yes or no?
"How do you think that things some muslim does could change Islam?"
---->Islam is there, and you can't change it. But Islam is also what a great number of people say that Islam is. Wahabists and salafists are trying to change Islam (pervert it, in my opinion, because they have a political agenda and they need people to believe that islam is like this or like that in order to use them-----> Why Bin Laden himself didn't fly in the airplanes of New York and sent some guys in his place?)
PD: Ready to keep a healthy debate with you and waiting for your points, but I have to go now. Sorry if I take a time to reply to your next posts.