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Shankaroon_614
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“SadeBoi” .....
May, Malaysian Somalia Uso Qaxay Ba Ahay, Caruurta Daroodka Iyo Ugaaslabe Aad Arkeeysid, Ani Beey Igu Abtirsadaan......
"DawladSade"....
Ur Comment “No one knows if you really are Majeerteen and through that Darod”
Listen fool, whether im Mj or not, what the hell it got 2 do with u, since u are not MJ. Maxa Ka Taqaana MJ, Oo Mareexan Ba Sheegatay?. I hate when idiotic morons state irrational allegations recklessly.
Ur comment “And even if you were Majeerteen we would have to dissect your geneology and analyze whether you are one of the known ones mixed with Zanzabari concubines”
Looooooool, IÂ’ll recommend u 2 not converse about things u scarcely know about. Beside, I think u saw my previous post, responding 2 X.PlayaÂ’s statement. 4 ur info. I was poking fun @ him, becuz of one of his preceding threads, claiming that Daroods been enslaved by Zanzibar sultans.
On the other hand, thereÂ’s no historical validation that Zanzibar sultans resided in the same areas with Mjs, let alone socializing with them. Zanzibar is a small island next 2 Tanzania if u looked @ the map. That island been colonized by Portuguese, but after few centuries they failed 2 keep their territory, and it fell under Omanis domination. Omanis used it as a business zone (slave trade), while they were abducting Africans who lived in Zanzibar and Mozambique. Alas, even Somali Bantus were bunch of slaves who been captured in Zanzibar and Mozambique, on their way 2 be sold in other countries, but the ship that was distributing them stopped in Somalia (Jubba and Shabelle regions) 4 certain reasons (Weather in particular). The Bantus fled 2 the nearest area and putted down roots. Well, from that split second most of them participated in SomaliaÂ’s development, like the rest of civilians which makes them Somalis like the rest of us. In spite of Arab ascendancy along the coast, the rest of Somali tribes of the center exercised almost total independence and often attacked the coastal settlement. Thus, I donÂ’t know what the hell u babbling on about Ninyahow. (Mixed with Zanzabari concubines) kulaaha.
Ur comment “infact linguists are going to be destroying the "Cushitic" subfamily of Afro-Asiatic because they are saying the languages in there are "sprachbund"”
Some scholars believe that, in historical or near-historical times, Semitic speakers crossed from South Arabia back into East Africa, while the rest of researchers opposed that viewpoint. Plus, there’s no coherent substantiation that backs up that thought. On the contrary, there’s particular hypothesise that illustrates the close relationships between the nations who shares similar language. Therefore, we are not quite sure of it, but the probability and believe that we are Africans is more commonsensical, than the opposing perception. Apparently, “Cushitic” is the language, and “Eastern Cushites” are the descendants of the Cush Empire.
Ur comment “Sab and Samaal are not geneological groupings but groupings by CULTURE”
Matter of fact, they are groupings by Religion, Language and Culture. Moreover, u can not presuppose that they are not genetically related, given that thereÂ’s no particular study or research that backs up ur statement, or refutes the close relations between them. Researchers are yet trying 2 figure out the close relation between Saab and Samaal groups.
Ur comment “Ever heard the term "Northern Samaal" and "southern Sab" anyone”
Basically, these 2 terms are used 2 make a distinction between the 2 groups, and not the geographical areas they settled in. It’s like saying “Ever heard of Southern Isaaqs”? or Northern Hawiyos? Oh, I doubt it.
Ur Comment “No one said present-day Darods are Arabs. Darod aka Abdirahman Ismacil Jaberti himself was Arab yes but he married a dir woman”
Looooooooooool, Ma Xiligaan Ba Keentay Quraafaatka Islaamaha Gaboobay Inaad Meesha Inugu So Qortid. Maad Iska Sii Wadid Sheekada, Oo Iska Dhahdid Hawiyo Lee Ba Ku Noola Somalia, Markaas Ninki Darood (Oo Yemeni Aha) Ba Bacmushtar Somalia Oo Yimid. Hawiyihi Meesha Dagnaa Ba Kuso Wada Haadeeyn Sida Shiniga, Markaas Bu Dhahay (Weeyn Al-Daar) = Meey Xaafadi (homeland), Ka Bacdina Magaci (Al-Daar) Ba ku Dhagay, Laakinse Darood Beey Oo Yara Badaleeyn, etc.....
If Daroods and Isaaqs claimed 2 be Arabs, and Barawinis (Xamar Cad Cad) did the same, then Arabs were not an insignificant number in Somalia, but rather the main group. Walle, Maxaad Carabta Naf Ka Doontay, Intaas Ina Ku Qaraabatid Maad Oo Dan Leeydahay? Ya Subxanallah.
Ur Comment “No one is going to ME that my explicit geneology of over forty names and this clear historical record of my and my ancestors is false”
There are particular things u just can't modify (The past and Facts), so donÂ’t let urself fall into the trap of thinking u know it all. Furthermore, there never were 2 opinions alike in the world, and the most universal quality is diversity.....
*Much Esteem and Reverence*
*Bless*
May, Malaysian Somalia Uso Qaxay Ba Ahay, Caruurta Daroodka Iyo Ugaaslabe Aad Arkeeysid, Ani Beey Igu Abtirsadaan......
"DawladSade"....
Ur Comment “No one knows if you really are Majeerteen and through that Darod”
Listen fool, whether im Mj or not, what the hell it got 2 do with u, since u are not MJ. Maxa Ka Taqaana MJ, Oo Mareexan Ba Sheegatay?. I hate when idiotic morons state irrational allegations recklessly.
Ur comment “And even if you were Majeerteen we would have to dissect your geneology and analyze whether you are one of the known ones mixed with Zanzabari concubines”
Looooooool, IÂ’ll recommend u 2 not converse about things u scarcely know about. Beside, I think u saw my previous post, responding 2 X.PlayaÂ’s statement. 4 ur info. I was poking fun @ him, becuz of one of his preceding threads, claiming that Daroods been enslaved by Zanzibar sultans.
On the other hand, thereÂ’s no historical validation that Zanzibar sultans resided in the same areas with Mjs, let alone socializing with them. Zanzibar is a small island next 2 Tanzania if u looked @ the map. That island been colonized by Portuguese, but after few centuries they failed 2 keep their territory, and it fell under Omanis domination. Omanis used it as a business zone (slave trade), while they were abducting Africans who lived in Zanzibar and Mozambique. Alas, even Somali Bantus were bunch of slaves who been captured in Zanzibar and Mozambique, on their way 2 be sold in other countries, but the ship that was distributing them stopped in Somalia (Jubba and Shabelle regions) 4 certain reasons (Weather in particular). The Bantus fled 2 the nearest area and putted down roots. Well, from that split second most of them participated in SomaliaÂ’s development, like the rest of civilians which makes them Somalis like the rest of us. In spite of Arab ascendancy along the coast, the rest of Somali tribes of the center exercised almost total independence and often attacked the coastal settlement. Thus, I donÂ’t know what the hell u babbling on about Ninyahow. (Mixed with Zanzabari concubines) kulaaha.
Ur comment “infact linguists are going to be destroying the "Cushitic" subfamily of Afro-Asiatic because they are saying the languages in there are "sprachbund"”
Some scholars believe that, in historical or near-historical times, Semitic speakers crossed from South Arabia back into East Africa, while the rest of researchers opposed that viewpoint. Plus, there’s no coherent substantiation that backs up that thought. On the contrary, there’s particular hypothesise that illustrates the close relationships between the nations who shares similar language. Therefore, we are not quite sure of it, but the probability and believe that we are Africans is more commonsensical, than the opposing perception. Apparently, “Cushitic” is the language, and “Eastern Cushites” are the descendants of the Cush Empire.
Ur comment “Sab and Samaal are not geneological groupings but groupings by CULTURE”
Matter of fact, they are groupings by Religion, Language and Culture. Moreover, u can not presuppose that they are not genetically related, given that thereÂ’s no particular study or research that backs up ur statement, or refutes the close relations between them. Researchers are yet trying 2 figure out the close relation between Saab and Samaal groups.
Ur comment “Ever heard the term "Northern Samaal" and "southern Sab" anyone”
Basically, these 2 terms are used 2 make a distinction between the 2 groups, and not the geographical areas they settled in. It’s like saying “Ever heard of Southern Isaaqs”? or Northern Hawiyos? Oh, I doubt it.
Ur Comment “No one said present-day Darods are Arabs. Darod aka Abdirahman Ismacil Jaberti himself was Arab yes but he married a dir woman”
Looooooooooool, Ma Xiligaan Ba Keentay Quraafaatka Islaamaha Gaboobay Inaad Meesha Inugu So Qortid. Maad Iska Sii Wadid Sheekada, Oo Iska Dhahdid Hawiyo Lee Ba Ku Noola Somalia, Markaas Ninki Darood (Oo Yemeni Aha) Ba Bacmushtar Somalia Oo Yimid. Hawiyihi Meesha Dagnaa Ba Kuso Wada Haadeeyn Sida Shiniga, Markaas Bu Dhahay (Weeyn Al-Daar) = Meey Xaafadi (homeland), Ka Bacdina Magaci (Al-Daar) Ba ku Dhagay, Laakinse Darood Beey Oo Yara Badaleeyn, etc.....
If Daroods and Isaaqs claimed 2 be Arabs, and Barawinis (Xamar Cad Cad) did the same, then Arabs were not an insignificant number in Somalia, but rather the main group. Walle, Maxaad Carabta Naf Ka Doontay, Intaas Ina Ku Qaraabatid Maad Oo Dan Leeydahay? Ya Subxanallah.
Ur Comment “No one is going to ME that my explicit geneology of over forty names and this clear historical record of my and my ancestors is false”
There are particular things u just can't modify (The past and Facts), so donÂ’t let urself fall into the trap of thinking u know it all. Furthermore, there never were 2 opinions alike in the world, and the most universal quality is diversity.....
*Much Esteem and Reverence*
*Bless*
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Abdi Garissa
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