Sheikh Cumar Faruuq FATWA: TFG leaders/Fighters NOT MUSLIMS

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

[quote]Sheikh Cumar Faaruuq definitely has much more cilm than all of Somalinet users combined so there isn't a single person knowledgeable and qualified enough to refute his claim in Somalinet.

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who is this guy? from his name he sounds converted brother. can i get his work in islamonline.net? or in any realiable islamic websites?

[Salahuddiin]

You don't know Cumar Faaruuq? He is propably the most famous somaali caalim. He is especially skilled in the field of tafsiir.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

i did not hear about him, i asked can i find his work in the libraries and/or islamonline.net?

[1nemansquad]

He is a somaali caalim, hence a caalim among Somalis alone; dude is a small time. I doubt you will find his work online or at libraries ..

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"Sheikh Cumar Faaruuq definitely has much more cilm than all of Somalinet users combined so there isn't a single person knowledgeable and qualified enough to refute his claim in Somalinet.

Still I'm afraid to say from my own mouth that TFG are murtaddiin/munaafiqiin because Allah knows what they are and I'm not caalim myself, but what is clear for even a 5-years old that what they are doing is kufr. There is no doubt about that. Both of their governance and serving the enemies of Allah (Ethiopia and USA).

And I believe their blood is xalaal for muslims because they fight against shariica."

Salahudin
If Sheik Cumar Faaruuq said that he was the Mahdi, would you say "He has much more claim than everyone else here on Somalinet" and fall in behind him??? When someone a "sheik" or otherwise, makes a claim so blatantly false as the one by this politically motivated Sheik, where you KNOW categorically that calling fellow Muslims apostates is haram, why don't you stand up and be counted?

[Salahuddiin]

Mowliidmacaane

I don't think his works will be found in mainstream islamic sites because he's not that known outside somalis. I don't actually know any somali sheikh ever that is known outside somali community, except this great ogaden caalim (I mention his qabiil because there has been too much ogaden bashing lately) who was known as Muhammad Abdullah as Somali and who died in Makkah few years ago Allah yarxamahu. Great yemeni caalim Muqbil said about him that he was the most knowledgeable person in the field of hadiith in Hijaaz.

MAD MAC

He's not saying anything haram. I believe his qualified enough to make statements like that because he is caalim. Throughout islamic history culamaa had made statements labeling some groups/individuals as kuffaar if there's evidence backing that they are transgressing the limits of Islam and they are creating fitna among muslims and they should be fought. First example is first khalifa Abu Bakr. There was a group who refused to pay zakah after Prophet (scws) and Abu Bakr said they were murtaddiin and fought against them.

No what makes you, a kaafir more knowledgeable of our diin than thousands of culamaa?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Salahudin
Did you read the posts I posted. Abu Bakr was wrong. His declarations were haram. Period, end of story. Mohammed was absolutely clear on this point. The only way for a person to be declared an apostate or a kufr is by SAYING IT HIMSELF. His actions do not allow him to be declared kufr. There is no room for argument here and any "scholar" who says otherwise is just flat out wrong. It's as if a scholar were to say "You can worship multiple Gods and in Islam that is OK." No, it's not. Same here.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

[quote="Salahuddiin"]Mowliidmacaane

I don't think his works will be found in mainstream islamic sites because he's not that known outside somalis. I don't actually know any somali sheikh ever that is known outside somali community, except this great ogaden caalim (I mention his qabiil because there has been too much ogaden bashing lately) who was known as Muhammad Abdullah as Somali and who died in Makkah few years ago Allah yarxamahu. Great yemeni caalim Muqbil said about him that he was the most knowledgeable person in the field of hadiith in Hijaaz.

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than you for your reply. i know couple of somali knowledgable in islam in khaliij. one in Qatar and another is in kuwait. he was former minister of justice and islamic affairs in somalia. he is well known and he teaches shafi madhab in the islamic university there.

[Salahuddiin]

SubhanAllah, Abu Bakr and all of the sahaba were wrong and you, an american kaafir who read a book about Islam is right?

Wallahi you are getting too ridiculous that I don't even wanna continue this, your claims are insane. If you put all the knowledge that muslims have together you wouldn't get nowhere near Abu Bakr's amount and every other sahaabi was with him in the decision and they were the ones who heard in their own ears what Prophet (scws) said about this but they understood what it meant. Eveything is not literal here and also this hadiith has conditions. You can't label someone else as a kaafir without evidence or knowledge or only by suspicion.

You raise yourself too high, get down to the level where you belong.

[Salahuddiin]

Mowliidmacaane

Is the one in Qatar Cabdirashiid Cali Suufi? What's the name of the man in Kuwait?

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Salahuddiin,

Please refrain from arguing a Jaahil Kaafir in Islamic matters, you will gain nothing from this infidel aan ka ahayn daal iyo maalaayacni

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

i read his profile from majma feqh in islamic conference was took place in saudi arabia.

[Salahuddiin]

Luggooyo

It's true abti, he has no idea what he's talking about and now he claims he's more knowledgeable about islamic issues than all the sahaba combined. This is the point where it's getting too absurd to continue.

Mowliidmacaane

Thanks for the information, I don't remember hearing about him. Have to find out more about the sheikh.

[highclass]

Sheikh Cumar Faruq is by far the one of the most knowledgeable somali sheikhs if not the most knowledgeable.

To bad that TFG can not do anything for us then to cause more problems.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

[quote]Thanks for the information, I don't remember hearing about him. Have to find out more about the sheikh[/quote]

i will try to find some of his works online. and you are welcome.