is barre hiiraale a warlord?

[JaMaaL-23]

Sadeboi

those discussions must have happened when I was away, and I think Xoogsade was away too.

anyway, I will read these threads and but my 2 cents in there.

this topic has turned into HG re-assurance session. its amazing how our Hawiye peepz maintain their mistrust of anything Daarood even though they are their own enemies today.

[Gamadid.]

Jamaal, that is your opinion with regards to Hawiye being the only responsible clan for somalia's ills. I am not interested in clan discussions so I will have to leave your comment not fully addressed. Also, when someone lacks sincerity, they don't deserve to be honoured with discussion much less of a minute of my time. Just make sure in afkaada laga nabad galo. And you don't need to go to an exclusive section. If you and others can keep to what you consider your own affairs, and do not involve other somalis in a pernicious manner and insult them, I have no business interfering. I have nothing in common with any somali who believes in clanism, nepotism, bigotry and hatred.

[Voltage]

Gamadiid please dude, you are only acting like this because you ARE Hawiye. Cid kale haday ahaan lahayd you would not have shed as much tears. Anyways good day.

[quote]sxb we need to dedicate a whole thread to this topic (the nature, the causes and the extent of MR-MJ conflict) in the clan politics section, we can then do full analysis, and get some insights to this phenomena without getting disturbed by others.

these discussions will be open only to all Sade and MJ Snet crew.[/quote]

Jamaal, it is funny you say this because we had one of the most excellent debates to come out of Somalinet about this very topic and it was only open to MR and MJ in the Gedo Section.

Here it is:

>http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=106019

[Gamadid.]

Dowladsade, Sounds like you have nothing usefull to say, don't let the door hit you on your way out -------------->

[musika man]

[quote="Gamadid."]Dowladsade, Sounds like you have nothing usefull to say, don't let the door hit you on your way out -------------->[/quote]

^^

wait till he comes back as luq-ganane, gedo-boy or sade-boi. he is mentally sick. quule overdose.

[Voltage]

[quote="Gamadid."]Dowladsade, Sounds like you have nothing usefull to say, don't let the door hit you on your way out -------------->[/quote]

Your immature responses say alot about your mental/emotional state. But knowing what is going on in Mogadishu and the anguish you feel I would be less than a man for poking bleeding wounds. DawladSade maybe would have done so but not Voltage.

[Gamadid.]

^^ Actually, Musikaman, Dowladsade is consistent in his characteristics. Waa doqon weynaaday. This guy never saw civilization before coming to America through sponsorship. Bacdiisaa ku taalo

For him to be Luq, he has to be inconsistent, and for him to be Gedo_Boy, he has to bright, he is neither inconsistent like Luq(who swears he doesn't believe in clan bigotry when he is not impressing someone who doesn't deserve to be impressed), nor is he Gedo_Boy who is decent and stable.




Jamaal.


Cuqdad HabarGidiraa ku Heyso.

[KING OF QUULE-]

My Ilmo Adeero on this site are stupid, Wallahi waa Doqonyaal

[JaMaaL-23]

thanks Dowlada sxb

[quote=gamadiid] Jamaal, that is your opinion with regards to Hawiye being the only responsible clan for somalia's ills. I am not interested in clan discussions so I will have to leave your comment fully addressed. Also, when someone claks sincerity, they don't deserve to be honoured with discussion. Just make sure in afkaada laga nabad galo. And you don't need to go to an exclusive section. If you and others can keep to what you consider your own affairs, and do not involve other somalis in a pernicious manner and insult them, I have no business interfering. I have nothing in common with any somali who believes in clanism, nepotism, bigotry and hatred.[/quote]

Correction: I said Hawiye is the reason why Somalia remains as a failed state for 16 years, not Somalia entire political problems. there is a difference sxb.

As a stakeholders to the Somali nation, we can point fingers to the blameworthy amongest us.

Hawiye won the initial stage of the civil war, only to utterly obliterate the country. where are the fruits of the USC revolution?

Harti and other Daaroods rebuilt their land (Puntland from scratch), Isaaq built their homeland, MR liberated their regions and rebuilted, even the Raxanweyn are building their regions.

what did Hawiye do for themselves for the last 16 years? let alone for Somalia.

I think its time for other Somalis to part ways with Hawiye and move on with the federal system to salvage whats left of Somalia one peice at a time.

[Voltage]

[quote="Gamadid."]^^ Actually, Musikaman, Dowladsade is consistent in his characteristics. Waa doqon weynaaday. This guy never saw civilization before coming to America through sponsorship. Bacdiisaa ku taalo
[/quote]

Raga hadaad caayaysid ninyaho wax macquul ah oo la dihi karo waa run baa lagu caaya. Ugaas DawladSade nin layska cayni karo maha hadaba fahan.

However, the fact you are laughing tells me you have woken out of the deep depression and for that I give you respect.

[musika man]

100

truce and end of topic. established beyond any doubt that barre hiiraale is a warlord

[Gamadid.]

Jamaal, not a bad idea to leave troublesome clans to their own. In fairness to hawiye though, they did bring change, but it was one others weren't satisfied with, so their positive change was destroyed in the name of federalism. They are the only somalis who paid the heaviest price for federalism while the clan based governments like puntland and somaliland enjoy their peace. It is because of the TFG they are now back to square one. The ICU wasn't recognized as authority representative of Banadir by the Warlords and their Ethiopian and US packers. By contrast, Puntland and Somaliland are recognized as representing the local clans. Endless blame on hawiye won't address the issues at hand.

[Wise-Man]

If Bare Hiiraale is not a warlord, i don't know what i would call Yusuf Mire Seeraar and Goobaanle. It is like saying Siiraar and Goobaanle are not warlords as well. Who is going to accept that?

[Luq_Ganane]

^^

I don't know what to call Gooble Seraar other than ornaments that were in Kismayo just to show that there was a isbahaysi. Also to legitimize Marexaan presence in Mogadishu, Suuqa Bakaaraha. The JVA in essence didn't enslave, rape, subjegate, harrass the minorities that lived there at all unlike the real warloards that controlled Shabeelaha, and did those things to the minorities. All it was was a business type orginization really, and their only real business was the dekad and airports of Kismayo.

[Wise-Man]

Are you ignoring how Bare Hiraale and his Isbaheysi treated Ogaadeen people in Dhoobley and other regions? you need to wake up man and accept the truth...

Good night......