TURKI&CEYROW MAKING MOVES

[Voltage]

Ku laha "defensive". Do you know how I am when I am defensive? War anigu 1 year ago before you took a long vacation baa ku iri as DawladSade, go and get some rest depression inaba caadi ah baa gashaye, and you have not gotten out of it yet siday ila tahay although you overcome some of the symptoms like ignoring somalinet and being in denial.

I don't feel I owe you or anyone anything, so you have got to lose this mindset that I will give you anything. Xabashi 6 sano baan la dagaalaynay, waliba Somaliyoo dhan na daawanayse cid aan ku niri noo hiilino majirto. Jilicsanidiinaa inaa lilaahi. Yaahuu, adiga iyo waxa kula xulafa ah ilaahay indhahiina haynaga duwo..YAAHUU qumayooyinka baa lagu dihi jiray, lakin maanta noocaadoo kalaa lagu yiraahdaa

YAAHUU

[Gamadid.]

Dowlo, "Yaahuu" is not a word real men use. Never heard a man uttering such nonsense.

I don't want you get into fits of "Yahuus" only to look more girlish than you already appear, so Ii am gonna call it a day bro, peace


Take Care Voltage.

[Voltage]

Maxaa saa kuu diiday. xabad prozac ku tuur, dug dheh, 2007 baa la joogaa 8)

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

[quote="xoogSADE14"]KK

Whats this great vision that Gen. Caydiid had for Somalis? Are you sure you're not mistaking Hawiye for Somalia?

You're accusing me of supporting a warlord while you support the murderous legacy of Somalia's first warlord. You're stating that you will always support Caydiid and the USC's actions. Hade adoo saas u hadlaaya maxeey tahay nabada na dhex ooli karta?

Soomaali inteeysan isu imaan waa ineey cid walbaa qaladkeedii qirataa and your clan (Hawiye) must be the one to start as you have done the most damage to our country.

p.s. looool @ Trying to compare Maj. Gen. Pres. M.S.B. and Gen. Caydiid.[/quote]

The Great vision of the Jananka is something each and every wandani at the time knew. and it's buried with him today. I'm not here to persuade you of anything, especially not while your blinded by Hawiye cuqdad.

-If rebelling automatically made jananka a warlord then I’m sure he wasn’t the first to rebel but only the most successful one.
None of the men running around with clan militia fighting over clan turf e.g Qeybdiid, Huurale, M’dheere, Morgan ever attempted holding an election inside Mogadishu like Jananka did.
I guess once your America enemy, you will always have a problem with recognition and it was expected.

- said I will always stand by the His vision. Don’t miss interpret my words.
And I agree with you that Hawiye should be the first to come out and apologise. Meaning each and every Hawiye subclan should apologise to one and another.
How ever I don’t see how that would please you as you’re still in playing the victim card in the ever changing politics of Somalia. Intii dadka aad ku dhigteen ayaa la idinka aargoostay ma ahane ma wax xad dhaaf ah ayaa la idngarsiyay?
You remind me of that Mareexan bushman who stepped up to cry out his heart to Ethiopians and their chosen group of itoobian raac.

-To answer your question in a simple form. When you’re ready to recognise the expiry date on your victim card then we can have reconciliation. I’m not comparing the two departed men but comparing their causes.

[Luq_Ganane]

Dr. Galbeyte,

Caydid marku Xamar qabsaday, and he defeated the MSB forces at Afgoi, what caused him to unleash the mayhem and destruction on Somalia?

4 month war which destroyed Xamar
Attacking Beledweyn
Along with his mercenary Omar Jess/SPM attacking Kismaayo
Massacres in Galkacyo
Attacking Gedo

The man was an a cadowqaato, who was blood thirsty for power. He captured Xamar in pristine condition, and if he was to bring Somalia idil together, reconcile etc. then most of Somalia wouldn't have a problem with him being president. However he went the opposite route and used the momentum he gathered from capturing Xamar, and turned around and turned and overthrow into a full blown civil war which is going on to this day.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Luq. Your question is directly stirring up hatred between Hawiye.

Gedo came into the picture when MSB vowed to come back and he used it as a launching pad. Caydiid had to compel the MSB and his loyalist group over the Fence of Gedo into the vast land of Kenya.

Every one regretted the four month war straight after it happened and everyone knows what exactly happened so compile your argument again and try this time to talk about something that concerns you

[Gedo_Boy]

Dr. Galbeyte,

Caydiid was in rebellion the day MSB took power. Do you know how long Caydiid was plotting to ovethrow the Govt. of MSB?

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

i know he was arrested and jailed for 6 yrs.. LOL then to keep him happy and far way from MSB where abouts he was given a post as an ambassedor to India.
but all that is besides the point.. caydiid wanted to end the dictatorship that something the peole had in common with him.

[SummerRain]

MSB jailled Caydid for fear of himself. I didnt make it up, he said it himself. Its because, Caydid wanted to end the dictatorship and nothing more. Now, enough with this rather reduntant debate, dont your ppl get bored talking about the same thing over and over again.

[Gedo_Boy]

Sure MSB jailed Caydiid as he jailed Somalia. In fact, he saw these 2 as the biggest threats to Somalia and BOY was he right. Dead on analysis.

Nobody is doubting it was a dictatorship, but if you want to sit here and tell me that Caydiid was fighting for democracy then I just have to laugh at that

Caydiid wanted nothing more than to be called 'Jaale Madaxweyne' .......which is why he went psycho when Cali Mahdi was declared President.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Gedo boy.

Incase you didnt know the USC use the Jaale title to insult the faqash by reminding them of their defeat.

so why would Caydiid want to be iven that title? we have a few president ..and none use to call them self jaale. so stop the lame cheap shotts.

[xoogSADE14]

KK

Sxb you can't have it both ways, its like a white man saying hes for segregation but supports the ACLU.

Sxb you can forget about reconciliation because right when the wounds of the civil war were staring to heal and people started forgetting/forgiving the barbaric actions of the USC your politically inept clan had to rekindle '91 like clan hatred with the ICU terrorist organization.

How can any sane human being compare the heinous crimes carried out by the drugged up USC mooryaans to anything that has occurred under the Kacaan? How can you expect people to forgive and forget when your praising a bunch of blood thirsty criminals and common thugs who broke every known Somali xeer by raping old women, children, executing captured combatents and innocent civilians? A group who actually believed that they could wipe out an entire Somali qabiil.

Sure the USC captured Gedo, Mudug, Jubbooyinka but that was only part 1 of the war, why not talk about where they ended up and the hundreds upon hundreds of HG thugs that were killed in Gedo alone? What about the ones in Jubboyinka or being completely kicked out of Gaalkacyo?

Sxb dagaal waad dagaalantaan taasi la'idiin diidi maayo laakiinse ogoow aniguna dagaal nin Mareexaan ah bana u ahaye taas hadii laga soo gudbana dagaal kaliya aduunku kuma socdee maskaxna waa loo baahanyahee ogaada.

p.s. Daroods don't really need to start inter-hawiyes beefs, you guys already hate each other to death and whether this TFG succeeds or not, doesn't really matter for Harti or Daroods in general simply because we're developing our regions while leaders of entire Hawiye sub-clans are begging to cut side deals with the same people that are killing their own clansmen i.e. Abgaal & Sacad helping the TPLF clean out the rest. If the TFG falls apart there will be no Hawiye vs Darood or even Hawiye vs Puntland because you guys will be busy killing each other and you can thank the legacy of your dear leader Gen. Caydiid.

[Gedo_Boy]

What 'defeat' are you talking about?

The defeat of 'Faqash' is that now Amxaaro troops are controlling Xamar? This is what you call defeat?

Virtually every single senior member of the former USC is being exposed day by day whether it be Mxmd Dheere, Qanyare, Caato. So Caydiid was the only shining light in a group of thugs?

If you don't have a broad vision, let me remind you that Mengistu's arming of Caydiid and Caydiid's entry into Hiiraan as a Mengistu-sponsored rebel is the first chapter of Somalia's current history.


That is your defeat.........


Enjoy the 'glorious defeat'

p.s I just heard one of my uncle's houses in Xamar is being used by Amxaaro as a heavy gun sniper point.

That was unheard of under MSB.


USC Victory = Mengistu's Victory = AY in Xamar = Amxaar in Xamar = A new era of slavery for Somalis.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

'Sxb you can forget about reconciliation because right when the wounds of the civil war were staring to heal and people started forgetting/forgiving the barbaric actions of the USC your politically inept clan had to rekindle '91 like clan hatred with the ICU terrorist organization.'

what is my kin? Hawiye? then who is turki?

Gedo boy ..you turned from one who seem to have an argumet to just another clan basher waa kusidee.. Ethiopia was shook from when Caydiid defeated America. so what are yu talking about..

using your logic. .Melez zanaawi over throwing mingitu = MSB victory and now look who is terrozing somalia so should the ethiopian crimes agains the innocent be accounted as MSB crimes?

com'on the argument is starting to loose taste now..

[xoogSADE14]

KK

I like how you ignored pretty much my entire post sxb.

Do yourself a favor and just give it up cause we both know you're not going to win any intellectually and factually based debate with me sxb.