On the Road to Independent Statehood?

[Luq_Ganane]

NY, I'm confused. Dir iyo Hawiye, walaalo soo maaha?

[new-york23]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]NY, I'm confused. Dir iyo Hawiye, walaalo soo maaha?[/quote]

war somalida waxey ukala baxdaa 2 groups..dir iyo darood thats it no more no less.

[sadeboi]

luq..irir waa magaca cusub oo eey la baxeen..
somalidu waa dir[everyone else] iyo darood

[Luq_Ganane]

NY/Sadeboi,

waan gartay.

[X.Playa]

Maro Xaar Boy,

The ball is in your court, Isaaq Ibnu Axmed and his origin and geneology is clear and even books are published long before the brith of Somalia for instance the book by Dube Ali Yare published 1944 titled "sirat sheekh Isxaaq", his white tomb his geneology and decendent all written and recorded, the Isaaq tardition and the guardians of the tomb all recorded.

There is no such a thing in Isaaq geneology such as:

1- Kuumbo
2- Kablalax
3- Kumade
4- Amarati Waaq
5- Jid Waaq
6- Tagaal Waaq
7- Caabud Waaq
8- Siin Waaq
9-Sii Waaq.
10- Waaq Maashe (Mareexaan)


And there is no such a thing in Isaaq as:

1-Cawro maleh
2-reer dhagoweyn
3-Daan weyn
4- reer afweyne
5-Tuur Yar
6- reer Dhoore
7-reer dhiblaawe
8- reeri waa Rag
9-reer Bahal
10- reer Dhaban Cade



are these Arabs or Oromo Midgaans???

[X.Playa]

by the way I forget to mention Kaskii Qabe and Qandhuur Qabe.

In Oromo culture, prior to the introduction of Abrahamic religions, Waaq denoted the single supreme and universal deity. Waaq created the universe with opposing but complementary and interdependent forces (such as night and day, young and old) in fine balance. This balance is called safuu (akin to the concept of Yin and yang), and the well-being of the universe depends on its maintenance.

Thus, Waaq is the source and the course of everything simultaneously. Waaq is the beginning and end, one and many, infinite and infinitesimal all at the same time. Waaq exists in everything and everything exists in It. Waaq is the fabric that weaves the past, the present and the future. This philosophical, political and religious thought of the Oromo

[new-york23]

all those are nick names from the somali language

sade=axmed
kablalax=maxamed
darood=cabriraxmaan
ogaden=sheekh cabdi raxmaan.

but we dont have nick names that lead to female parents,the african americans who have bastard kids with no father around use their mothers name as abtirsi

habar awal
habar yoonis
habar jeclo
habar tol jale
Iidoor Dir weeyee hadduu, duulan soo kiciyo
8)

[sadeboi]

kalamagooste
Gadiid Ugadh
ciid-gale
Dandaan Carre
Kuul Carre
Gambo Carre
Geeda Saluug
bah-xabuush

horta magacyo isaq wa kuwaan ayakabo. iskaba daa dir oo dhan, saa dir iyo darood ba siman, isaaq baba intaan oo dhan ku jirran.


Lakiin, waxaad isku wacdaa nin tariikh somaaliyeed iyo dhaqan somaaliyeed yaqaano balse waxaad kala ogaan weydey nicknames iyo magacyo run ah. In somali society which name sticks with you more nicknames or your real name? Koombe iyo kablalax iyo waxaan oo dhan waa nicknames magacyaashoda runta ha waa maxamed cali iyo magacyo la mid ah. Cabudwaaq waxa loo daha meeshaas bu ku dhastey oo aheyd magaalo oromo ah oo eey eebo ku caabudi jirren. Magacyada waaq ku jirro, waa daroodka dhulka oromoda galley oo ka kiciyey oromad dhulalkooda, sida lafaha ogaden oo aad sheegtey iyo lafta marexaan oo aad sheegety oo ka mid ah reer-hassan (illa nageyle hada deggan). One of my adeer waxa la daha garbaharrey, eragaas af-somali ma hao waa af-garre...ma garre ninkaas...just because you hail from a small minoirty clan confined in three corners [berbera,hargeisa, burco] does not mean Darood is. Those names were places were oromo lived and Daroods kid them out from it. Why is it that only Darood who live in old oromo lands have those names. How about harti, lelkase, awrtable, and the marexaan who live in Somalia. Do they have those names? Waa maya. Logics ba ka maqan iidoor.


Tan kale, magacyaashaan waa naaneeso caadi ah
1-Cawro maleh
2-reer dhagoweyn
3-Daan weyn
4- reer afweyne
5-Tuur Yar
6- reer Dhoore
7-reer dhiblaawe
8- reeri waa Rag
9-reer Bahal
10- reer Dhaban Cade

Marka hadi aan ku fahimsiiyey waxaad nagu heysatid, adigu hada na fahamsi taan aah kula heysano...WHY ARE YOU IGNORING IT

WHAT ARE ISAQ IF THEY AREN'T DIR??

[X.Playa]

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[X.Playa]

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[X.Playa]

lets play the habar too and see who has more habars:

Isaaq:

1-H.Y
2-H.J
3-H.A

Daarood Oromo:

1-Habar Cismaan
2-Habar Axmed
3- Habar Xasan
4-Habar Celi
5-Habar Suleemaan
6- Habar Majeerteen
7- Habar Yacquub
8- Habar Ciise
9- Khaalid Habar Waa
10- Shirshoore Habar Waa.

The last 2 are yet to find theire mothers

Maro Xaar boy your claim is that Isaaq is Dir..then prove it, my argument is Daarood are Oromos..and iam proving it,why not do the same instead of urging me to negate your non existent thoeory.

[new-york23]

waad isku dhex yaacday saxib.bal take a breather.

ogaden=wey ogaadeen,naaneys
marexan=lama riixo,naaneys
majerteen=ma jarteen,naaneys
dhulbhante=dhul bey hantyeen,naaneys
warsangeli=war fiican wade,naaneys

ninyahoow bring sepstanial evidence,have you ever heard anything besides darood are from arabia?no never.but we heard idoor is carab..idoor is dir..idoor is xabash,your the one who has to prove his linage not me,mine is clear as water

[X.Playa]

whats next:

kelly = Sahra
Amanda= Khadiija
Micheal= Faarax

[sadeboi]

[quote]6- Habar Majeerteen
7- Habar Yacquub
8- Habar Ciise
9- Khaalid Habar Waa
10- Shirshoore Habar Waa.

[/quote]


Horta habar majeretaan waxa la isku dahay maxamed iyo maxamoud harti iyo dhoro kale, oo haberti majeertaan ba dashey. Haber ciise waa naanis la siiyey ciyaalka oo aabahood ayako yar buu dhimtay marki la arko ba la dihi jirrey yaa weeye ciyaalkaas oo waxa la dhihi jirrey waxa dashey haberti ciise...and his name is ciise warwaajecel..and its not haber-yaquub its yaquub-warwaajecle...shirshore iyo khalid habar waa waxa loo yiri hoyadood lamey soo korin..marka ciyaal haber waayey bey ahayeen. The other habers you have I have not heard of and you should mention which darood clan they fall in.

So we found out that those darood habers are ALSO NICKNAMES, can you say the samething about haber-jeclo..haber-yonis..haber-awal...habar siciid ayuub


AND ANSWER MY QUESTION

WHAT ARE YOU IF YOUR NOT DIR.

[new-york23]

is dhiib saxib you been cought red handed,you cant tell us who fathered habar yoonis.
we understand who the mother was(habarti uu yoonis dhalay) but who was the father of her kids? 8)