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Re: Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

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If the laws of the land are to help everyone achieve heaven then they should be instituted and enforced.

My morals and ethics come from Islam, and as far as I am concerned both are rules in Islam. The comparison comes because your reasoning was not covering your hair doesn't hurt anyone, fornicating doesn't either
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Allaah has commanded the people to obey His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He has enjoined this in many verses of the Qur’aan, of which we will quote some. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): “Obey Allaah and the Messenger (Muhammad).” But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:32]

“He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad), has indeed obeyed Allaah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammad) as a watcher over them”

[al-Nisa’ 4:80]

“O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination”

[al-Nisa’ 4:59]

“And perform As‑Salaah (Iqaamat‑as-Salaah), and give Zakaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad) that you may receive mercy (from Allaah)”
[al-Noor 24:56]
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Re: Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

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Most if not all the women in Somalia wear Hijab, this really isn't and shouldn't be an issue. After the civil war, things changed and what women wore changed for the most part they wear the Jilbaab and what not.

I can see what Shirib is saying about salaat but along with any policies these Islamists do... Nalia brought up an important point about DAWAH... you need to advise the people, reach them out and educate them on the deen.

Just because it is a Muslim country doesn't mean people aren't ignorant...

so I mean things aren't that complicated, but Somalia has a lot more urgent needs at the moment as well... the social fabric is just one piece of the puzzle
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The only time I sympathies with the Wahabis is when their on to people like HutuKing01, it was very unfortunate that the innocent man who they slit his throat a while back wasn't the likes of Abdiwahab and his cohorts.
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SAUDI ARABIS and IRAN both enforce laws that women to wear veil,or religios police punish them..this is not only Shabaab..i think the self proclaimed Hutuking is rather having trouble with this group for beeing "rulers",basically doing TFGs job :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Somali-Star wrote:
ya dameer, this hadith 100% authenticated! it's the message of our beloved prophet saw (like the qur'an) and the way of the salaf (raa). and the words and actions of our prophet are to be follow 100% without deviation - for whosoever rejects part of the deen (like the sunnah of our beloved prophet saw) rejects all of it. such person has left the fold of islam.

and moron, don't twist the qur'an to suit your desires.... it's true that there's no compulsion in deen, i.e. we can't force a kaffir or mushrik to become a muslim. but it has nothing to do with a muslim becoming kaffir... for that ruling, because it's not in the qu'ran, we look to the sunnah of our beloved prophet prophet saw, as collected by imaam-ul-islam al-bukhari, which doesn't contradict the qur'an for guidance.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes). Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is only a Revelation revealed. He has been taught (this Qur’aan) by one mighty in power [Jibreel (Gabriel)].

One free from any defect in body and mind then he (Jibreel — Gabriel in his real shape as created by Allaah) rose and became stable”[al-Najm 53:1-6]
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waryaa wahabi moron look there is thousens of hadith whichs not sahiih. forexample bukhari who are one who collected most of hadiiths, he collected more than 300 000 hadiith whichs he transmitted only the 2,602 traditions(hadith) that he believed to be Sahih.

would you believed 300 000 he only took 2.600 hadiith.


this hadiish which says('Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)) its absolut contradicts of kalaam allah the quran aayah(laa ikraaha fi diin( diinta qasab maaha) micnaha diinta qasab maaha waa qofkii raba wuu gaaloobi karaa. and allah ayaa ku abaal marin hadaad gaaloowdo.( xitaa waxaa jira aayad kale quraan ah(lakum diinakum waliya diin) anaga diinteena waa islaam adigana diintaa heeyso)

hadiith says if you change your religion then we will kill you. and surah in quran says religion is not compulsory.that's clearly contradiction.therefore QURAN most be our first source KALAAMA ALLAH is nr 1.

wahabi ignorant throw away kalmul ALLAH(QURAN), waxa ay wahaabiyada ku dhaqmaana dhamaantood waa been abuur, xitaa hadiith iska dhaafee wahaabiyada waxay soo daliishaan IBNU THAYMIN oo ahaa ARAB NATIONALIST ayey yiraahdaan SHEEIKHUL ISLAAM IBNU THAYMIN WUXUU YIRI. SIDII UU ibnu thaymin ahaaa rasuuul. subxaana allah wahaabiyada waa jaahiliin.
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Re: Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

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I don't understand why people have taken issue with concept of closing businesses at the time of prayers, as though it's an infringement on people's freedoms and it's forcing people to pray. I didn't read anywhere that the owners/workers were going to be marched to the masjid to read their prayers...if they're against praying...they could easily go home...doubt anyone is going to be waiting for them there lol

In the UK, we have the Sunday trading laws...which dictate that certain department stores/supermarkets can't be open for more than 5hours on a Sunday because that's their Holy day ...I don't see anyone here protesting about this being repressive!

I think this is a great 'law', how many business owners...do you know who struggle to even close their businesses on Friday for Jummah prayers?..it just removes one barrier to prayer that exists....which can only benefit Somalia!

In relation to the Hijab...which Allah (swt) has made compulsory...i don't see why a Muslim country should not also make it compulsory , that's enough for me. But perhaps that's too simplistic a view.
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Re: Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

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[quote="DR-YALAXOOW]

hadiith says if you change your religion then we will kill you. and surah in quran says religion is not compulsory.that's clearly contradiction.therefore QURAN most be our first source KALAAMA ALLAH is nr 1.[quote]

....why don't you give the context of that quote?

Im pretty sure its not in relation to Muslims...those who have taken the Shahaada, but that you cannot force non-believers to convert.
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