salafi fitna on the somali sisters

[Faraaxwivmurqo]

Walahi I agree with Enlightened i've seen so many somali brehs call me akheey and it's like you don't have to be arabafied to appear religious.

[fisabililah]

Assalamu a'leykum,

this time the mehr was "an" apple

lol, i dont even like the madkhali's but that just sounds too funny to be true.

this ayaat springs to mind.


يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنْ جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَنْ تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ (الحجرات: 6).

[Enlightened~Sista]

it's like you don't have to be arabafied to appear religious.

Exactly..they think by peppering their language with as many arabic words as they can..that somehow means they are more religious and hence get more ajar??...

[toby]

i dont understand you lot talk of the deen of allah when you know nothing when your told this, you start getting hyped up coz you are beeing advised not to say what your saying.
i just hope allah forgives us for anything we say about his deen. or anything we say about the prophet sala lahu alyhim waslam

[ENDURE4ALLAH]

Asalama Alaikum waramatulahi wabarakatuhu....

Bismi'Allah.

This slander of the sallafiyyon has been on different forums ya Ikhwaan and Akhawaat, so I am not shocked.

However I am deeply sadden by the utter ignorence of the Salafi dawah and how people are claiming that the dawah has been created by a man...acudubillah.

Jazakullahu Khayr akhii Toby, indeed it is a strange trend that people speak without knowledge especially as they do not know the evil they utter.
In these days it is easier to listen to heresay and gossip, rather then actually verify the truth.
Subhana'Allah May Allah keep us steadfast upon the Siratul Mustaqeem.

This fabricated story I know to be fake and May Allah guide the brother/sister who wrote this ameen, indeed she/he has done a great evil by hurting their fellow muslims.

Alhamduliah the Salafi Dawah is growing and establishing itself here in The West, also many of the sisters I know are married to somali brothers even if they themselves are not Somali, so frankly this topic should be deleted as it is a lie against our community in Birmingham.
May Allah reward Abu Khadeeja, Sheikh Rabee Al Madkhalee and Shiekh Ul Islam Abdul Wahab ameen.

I advice you not to lend an ear to slander and it is Haram, not judge not slander the Ulema.

Rather go and seek the knowledge and do not judge Islam by a few people's intepretation and ignorence.

[Faraaxwivmurqo]

^^

Firstly learn to say walaalo instead of Akheey and Ukhtii your somali for god sakes start acting like one.

[Cisse Westlake]

^^

Firstly learn to say walaalo instead of Akheey and Ukhtii your somali for god sakes start acting like one.

those arab wannabes.. think by saying those words they are some how better muslims

[dawatul_Haqq]

^^

Firstly learn to say walaalo instead of Akheey and Ukhtii your somali for god sakes start acting like one.

those arab wannabes.. think by saying those words they are some how better muslims

Subhanallah does speaking the langauage in which the quran was revealed in mean you are an arab wanna be ok then that means dont speak english because then that means your an english wanna be subhanallah double standards on this forum. Many individuals lack basic adaab and ettiquettes let alone understand what dawatul salafiyaa is.

[surrender]

first of all, saying ukhti and akhi is not wrong, though i dont see why they insist on saying ukhti, akhi constantly when they can say walal!!! but hey everyone is different right!


secondly: to all those who are supporting salifis, just know that we not bad mouthing SALAFI as in their teaching or who they used to be!! but the salafis that have taken over some cities in the UK. their teaching is very harsh towards women and children, towards families and towards young adults! as we said we before islam is not harsh religion. is a way of life, we should therefore make people's lives easier, instead of harsh and cruel teachings their force on people.


thirdly: we should just leave it here because sheekadani waxbadan bay socotay, inatan kabadan, danbi uun baan kahelaynaa!

[dawatul_Haqq]

first of all, saying ukhti and akhi is not wrong, though i dont see why they insist on saying ukhti, akhi constantly when they can say walal!!! but hey everyone is different right!


secondly: to all those who are supporting salifis, just know that we not bad mouthing SALAFI as in their teaching or who they used to be!! but the salafis that have taken over some cities in the UK. their teaching is very harsh towards women and children, towards families and towards young adults! as we said we before islam is not harsh religion. is a way of life, we should therefore make people's lives easier, instead of harsh and cruel teachings their force on people.


thirdly: we should just leave it here because sheekadani waxbadan bay socotay, inatan kabadan, danbi uun baan kahelaynaa!

you say their teaching is very harsh can you please provide some examples of these harsh teachings towards women, children etc because to you they might seem Harsh when in fact they are probably teachings of the prophet sallahu alayhi wasalam soo put forward them and inshallah we can clarify them for you.

[surrender]

didnt we explain it fr you already? this how the whole thread started (read below). though im defending and was defendng the innocent somali girls who were mislead, these just some of the shockng stories we hear!!

Few weeks ago:

a somali niqaabi sister at the cash point of llyds tsb bank on covernty rd birmingham, something happend and the machine didnt return the card, her husband who happend to be jamaican starts shouting at her then beating her in the middle of covernty road, she starts screaming and shouting ooh please ikaa qabtaa...ikaa qabtaa...some people tried to stop it but the man turned round and siad she's my wife you have no business here..Which was true no matter how humiliating and painfull it was...

Theres one dude who goes to the salafi masjid or the sp masjid...he's got a big tatto of a naked woman on his back, a big cross on his arm and wears a very short khamiis which shows all his tattos on his leg and the khamiis is short sleeved to show his tatoo on his arms, wears the khamiis so back so it shows the naked woman...he sells ataars and chats to any woman who walks past, still got the street in him although he embrassed Islam, last year he married a somali sister and the mehr was A BUKHARII BOOK, alright, then 2 weeks ago he got married to another somali girl, this time the mehr was "an" apple,, the brothers who were there at the mehr said the guy couldnt wait to get out of there, ther was no grace or sharaaf about the whole thing,,a week before another mehr took place where the whole thing had a good feel to it,but this one felt like no want wanted to there,it was like an extra thing to come and ask for the girls hand and do it the propa way...

But wait for it

a while ago abu khdija came to a somali sister who was a single mother, he told her he had a revert brother for her who was a good brother, worked hard, studied hard and was part of the rightous salafi masjid, the sister was relectant and she didnt want to rush into this as she was going bk to somalia for first time, she was brought up here after the war and she never seen the country and she was all excited of going back to her mother land.

But abu khadija started applying his wicked tricks, first sending out "salafi" sisters to put presure on her, then whisprings among the women that she was racist, and then came the best one she was starting to be off the "manhaj". The sister didnt have no choice but to accept.

Now the least thing you would think for a group of people, who operate a marriage Bureau, is to check the sort of people they introducing to the sisters. Their backgrounds, wether they have a history of violence, drugs, abuse and the rest of it.

the sister says she was happy with her man, he would take them out and be nice and kind to them and do what anormal husband would do.

now she started to get worried when her little son become quite and scared to be touched, then one day she walked in to his bedroom and her worst nighmore was in front of her.. i cant repeat but it was horrible, a grown man with a child..he ran off she called the police, when she was interviewed she didnt even know his name, he was introduced to her as abu-abdullah, and thats how she become to know him.

she was asked if she knew of his history and she told the police of how she become his wife. abu khadija was arrested and first he denied all knowledge of it, then the forms was brought up and he said ooh he never checked becuz of the good characters of the brother.

Then he turned on the sister saying it was her fault she should have seen the signs, and if she was a good sister this wouldnt of happend to her and basicly he was telling others to distance themselfs and the masjid from her, she was damaged goods...

The police quized him further but he got away again. but better now he takes the money of the police and works for them...i didnt want to say anything on the main forum coz it makes me sick...i left out few details coz they not good for the eyes..


Now the funny one

this one been doing the circules for a while and the somali sister whos been involved had to leave town and live somewhere else some say she left the country and gone to canada for the shame she felt, her mixd race husband been married to his first wife for only 7 months before the somali one agreed to marry him,his first wife who was also a somali didnt like the fact that any woman would agree to marry a man whos only been married for 7 months or so...but they both didnt see the shock..one night he invited the second to watch a programm at the house of the first, leaves the room comes bk in his box of shorts and starts telling them both how he always wanted to have both of his wifes at the same time..and how he stayed out of haraam and got married and now they owe him his loyalty...he kept talking and talking, till he convinced them both...now the first wife felt so ashamed she went and told the woman imaam at another masjid who told her not to go back to him and stay away from the salafi masjid...

when he found out he kicked off big time and went round to her familys house and a fight broke out..mind you the family didnt know till that point what happend...anyway no one knows how the news got out...the other somali girl refused to leave him...in the "brothers" circules he become a something of a mythical figure..somali's who go to the salafi masjid are among the most defetist,the most cowardest, who dare not speak out of term just incase they get kicked out of the manhaaj...they knew what was taken place yet they kept theyr eyes down when the jamaican brothers walked pass..They pretended this thing that was happning wasnt hapning, and if they stay quite on this "fitna" then somehow it would go awy...little did they know that the nxt victims would come from their families...


theres alot more shocking stories like these every other day u hear of shameful story...these new salafiya guys are acting on the manhaaj you either with us or againts us if you are with us marry one of us...


http://somaliblogs.blogspot.com/2009...g-that-is.html

[Ka darag]

lool yeeeer i swear akhi just means brother in Arabic

u might as well say walaal

[ENDURE4ALLAH]

So where is the evidence again?

Let me guess....Qiil wa Qhaal....

[Ka darag]

So where is the evidence again?

Let me guess....Qiil wa Qhaal....

evideence of what....akhi is brother in Arabic...why do u need evidence?

[dawatul_Haqq]

didnt we explain it fr you already? this how the whole thread started (read below). though im defending and was defendng the innocent somali girls who were mislead, these just some of the shockng stories we hear!!

Few weeks ago:

a somali niqaabi sister at the cash point of llyds tsb bank on covernty rd birmingham, something happend and the machine didnt return the card, her husband who happend to be jamaican starts shouting at her then beating her in the middle of covernty road, she starts screaming and shouting ooh please ikaa qabtaa...ikaa qabtaa...some people tried to stop it but the man turned round and siad she's my wife you have no business here..Which was true no matter how humiliating and painfull it was...

Theres one dude who goes to the salafi masjid or the sp masjid...he's got a big tatto of a naked woman on his back, a big cross on his arm and wears a very short khamiis which shows all his tattos on his leg and the khamiis is short sleeved to show his tatoo on his arms, wears the khamiis so back so it shows the naked woman...he sells ataars and chats to any woman who walks past, still got the street in him although he embrassed Islam, last year he married a somali sister and the mehr was A BUKHARII BOOK, alright, then 2 weeks ago he got married to another somali girl, this time the mehr was "an" apple,, the brothers who were there at the mehr said the guy couldnt wait to get out of there, ther was no grace or sharaaf about the whole thing,,a week before another mehr took place where the whole thing had a good feel to it,but this one felt like no want wanted to there,it was like an extra thing to come and ask for the girls hand and do it the propa way...

But wait for it

a while ago abu khdija came to a somali sister who was a single mother, he told her he had a revert brother for her who was a good brother, worked hard, studied hard and was part of the rightous salafi masjid, the sister was relectant and she didnt want to rush into this as she was going bk to somalia for first time, she was brought up here after the war and she never seen the country and she was all excited of going back to her mother land.

But abu khadija started applying his wicked tricks, first sending out "salafi" sisters to put presure on her, then whisprings among the women that she was racist, and then came the best one she was starting to be off the "manhaj". The sister didnt have no choice but to accept.

Now the least thing you would think for a group of people, who operate a marriage Bureau, is to check the sort of people they introducing to the sisters. Their backgrounds, wether they have a history of violence, drugs, abuse and the rest of it.

the sister says she was happy with her man, he would take them out and be nice and kind to them and do what anormal husband would do.

now she started to get worried when her little son become quite and scared to be touched, then one day she walked in to his bedroom and her worst nighmore was in front of her.. i cant repeat but it was horrible, a grown man with a child..he ran off she called the police, when she was interviewed she didnt even know his name, he was introduced to her as abu-abdullah, and thats how she become to know him.

she was asked if she knew of his history and she told the police of how she become his wife. abu khadija was arrested and first he denied all knowledge of it, then the forms was brought up and he said ooh he never checked becuz of the good characters of the brother.

Then he turned on the sister saying it was her fault she should have seen the signs, and if she was a good sister this wouldnt of happend to her and basicly he was telling others to distance themselfs and the masjid from her, she was damaged goods...

The police quized him further but he got away again. but better now he takes the money of the police and works for them...i didnt want to say anything on the main forum coz it makes me sick...i left out few details coz they not good for the eyes..


Now the funny one

this one been doing the circules for a while and the somali sister whos been involved had to leave town and live somewhere else some say she left the country and gone to canada for the shame she felt, her mixd race husband been married to his first wife for only 7 months before the somali one agreed to marry him,his first wife who was also a somali didnt like the fact that any woman would agree to marry a man whos only been married for 7 months or so...but they both didnt see the shock..one night he invited the second to watch a programm at the house of the first, leaves the room comes bk in his box of shorts and starts telling them both how he always wanted to have both of his wifes at the same time..and how he stayed out of haraam and got married and now they owe him his loyalty...he kept talking and talking, till he convinced them both...now the first wife felt so ashamed she went and told the woman imaam at another masjid who told her not to go back to him and stay away from the salafi masjid...

when he found out he kicked off big time and went round to her familys house and a fight broke out..mind you the family didnt know till that point what happend...anyway no one knows how the news got out...the other somali girl refused to leave him...in the "brothers" circules he become a something of a mythical figure..somali's who go to the salafi masjid are among the most defetist,the most cowardest, who dare not speak out of term just incase they get kicked out of the manhaaj...they knew what was taken place yet they kept theyr eyes down when the jamaican brothers walked pass..They pretended this thing that was happning wasnt hapning, and if they stay quite on this "fitna" then somehow it would go awy...little did they know that the nxt victims would come from their families...


theres alot more shocking stories like these every other day u hear of shameful story...these new salafiya guys are acting on the manhaaj you either with us or againts us if you are with us marry one of us...


http://somaliblogs.blogspot.com/2009...g-that-is.html

My dear sister in islam or walal as you would like me to address you with these are not evidences rather a fake story made up by an ignorant person you cant seriously use this as an evidence to speak out against the salafi dawah because we dont even known who the author is any one can put up anything on an internet website does that mean we can then just read it then believe it and base our judgements of how the people of sunnah are on that subhanallah then we might aswell listen to what the media says about the hijab and muslim women being oppressed etc reminds of the saying of Ibn Seereen (rahimahullaah) who said, “Verily knowledge is Deen, so look to whom you take your Deen from""

Again you said they teach harsh teachings what are these teachings without using the baseless lies started by the user on this thread because even that was just a simple copy and paste job