Re: Al Shabab "we are goiong to invade Kenya/Ethiopia"
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:28 am
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Pure NON-SENSE!Voltage wrote:Don't try to play it off sxb, Kismaayo, Mogadishu, and those coastal cities were always "ports". Dhaws used to embark on Mogadishu in the 13the century and Kismaayo was a Swahili city state. Ports doesn't mean the modern ports 21st enlarged ports that exist today. I can bring you a thousand sources proofing the modern ports used today were built in the 70's even if the 60's government might have built a ramp or two. Just like Dubai has always been a port, modern Dubai port is nothing like even the 80's Dubai port. But that is a side issue to the greater intellectual lie you tried to play off in this topicTwisted_Logic wrote:
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The whole point of using that source was to prove to poor Murux that it was not the MSB regime that built the Kismayo, Mogadishu and Barbera Port, rather it was the civilian administration that did so. Go ahead prove me otherwise You wanna talk about "fabricating" huh
Besides, "political parliamentary" disputes is healthy. There is no shame in that. 10001% better than 1 man rule
Can you say "my bubbles have been burst" Mr " MSB built the Kismayo port"Murax wrote:
What fabrication they said "Highway support" did they say which highways? ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE the Bossaso to Garowe down to Mogadishu, the Haregiesa to Bossaso, Mogadishu to Kismaayo, Mogadishu to Baydhabo, Baardheere to Mogadishu highways were ALL built by that regime.
Twisted, we both know those things read better on paper than reality and I personally have read and so have you the reality of the the whole 60's compared to the first 7 years of Siad's government. The point of that paper is the fact Somalia was getting the best aid for Africa (with 85% of the government's money foreign aid) with a separate country handling those specific tasks and that government still got less than 25% of its plans done of which it had the money to complete. In fact the whole point of the article is how the 60's government misused foreign aid and that the Somali people's average living fell during the 60's than rise!Twisted_Logic wrote:WELL ACTUALLY WRONGMurax wrote:Voltage wrote:Twisted-Logic, I am in Jstor reading the full article right now of the source you brough. Are you going to clear the air about the "source" you brought or will I have to break a copy of the document here?
Murax, all the guy listed is the PLANNING of those things. Just like two people go into a room and plan and over 75% was not implemented because of the corruption and "political parliamentary" instability (remember the 100 clan based "political partieis" and the ineffective governments of the 60's) in the country among other things. This is childish wallahi, fabricating things that are right here on the net.![]()
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Not suprised at all. Its common knowledge the Bossaso to Xamar road was built by MSB, and its a fact that Berbera was originally built by the prior regime but enlarged by MSB, and that Bossaso port as well as the Bossaso to Garowe road built by Him, as well as the Mogadishu to Kismaayo, and Mogadishu to Baydhabo, but let the revisionism continue. Those roads, as well as even the soap, water factories (Some of the very few actual industries in the North) would not even be possible without Him. However at least Puntland/Somalialnd actually benefitted and took advantage of those tools, instead of using tanks and bazookas and fighting urban combat for 20 years within a city like animals.
From the very same source
As can be seen from Table 2, the American aid funds have been utilized primarily for basic infrastructural investments: the construction of a deep-water port at Kisimayo, including water and electricity supplies for the town; a feasibility study of Mogadiscio port; Mogadiscio water supply; and highway construction. Agriculture has also been assisted, particularly in developing an experimentation and demonstration farm at Afgoi, and a soils laboratory and farming training centre at Baidoa.
Now who is "fabricating"
Long delays in effecting implementation of projects after they had obtained approval and financial backing have also been responsible for the slow rate of progressThe reason for the slow-implementation ( apart from untrained bureaucracy) has also been blamed on:
That MSB's first 7 years "saw more development" is thus because of the wise investments made BY THE CIVILIAN ADMINISTRATION.Somalia's development strategy, in common with many other developing countries, has emphasized physical infrastructure. However, such investment generally requires a considerable length of time before becoming productive. Moreover, and perhaps more important, the profitability of such projects depends on the degree to which they can induce or stimulate economic activity in other segments of the economy.