Ilma Bucur Baceyr VS the Noble Dhulbahante

[ToughGong]

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If he had only read the book Emp,

[udun]

The whole English speaking world knows assalka gadabuursi

Ok we have a stalemate. The Iidoor is calling us garac and we are calling him garac so one must be right and one must be wrong lets see who is right.

Let us analyse this. The case for Beesha Qawdhan is qarac.

1. Bucur Baceyr and his well known documeted story of him being a fornicator and fathered the child called Awal.
2. Habro awal clans united with Garxajis to try to become more legitimate.
3. The clan name starts with Habar because nobody knew the father except for Bucur Baceyr.


The case for Gadabuursi is garac:

1. Habro Awal shoecleaners for Richard Burton, telling him that Beesha Gadabuursi is garac.




Which has more legitimacy and which one is truth and which one is false?
Ill let you judge

Any sane man will knwo that the Ha

As evening drew on, came a message from our enemies, the Habr Awal, who offered, if we would wait till sunrise, to enter the city in our train.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

As everyone who passes by, visits the Halimalah tree, foraging parties of the Northern Eesa and the Jibril Abokr (a clan of the Habr Awal) frequently meet, and the traveller wends his way in fear and trembling.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

Returning home we found that our Gudabirsi Bedouins...

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

The three Habr Awal presently approached and scowlingly inquired why we had not apprised them of our intention to enter the city. It was now “war to the knife”—we did not deign a reply.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

About midday arrived the two Gudabirsi who intended escorting us to the village of our Abbans.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

my Gudabirsi guides showed me a bright object...

Allah maxaa been laisku niyad dhisayaa

Oo hadda maxaa tidhi?

[udun]

The whole English speaking world knows assalka gadabuursi

Ok we have a stalemate. The Iidoor is calling us garac and we are calling him garac so one must be right and one must be wrong lets see who is right.

Let us analyse this. The case for Beesha Qawdhan is qarac.

1. Bucur Baceyr and his well known documeted story of him being a fornicator and fathered the child called Awal.
2. Habro awal clans united with Garxajis to try to become more legitimate.
3. The clan name starts with Habar because nobody knew the father except for Bucur Baceyr.


The case for Gadabuursi is garac:

1. Habro Awal shoecleaners for Richard Burton, telling him that Beesha Gadabuursi is garac.




Which has more legitimacy and which one is truth and which one is false?
Ill let you judge

Any sane man will knwo that the Ha

As evening drew on, came a message from our enemies, the Habr Awal, who offered, if we would wait till sunrise, to enter the city in our train.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

As everyone who passes by, visits the Halimalah tree, foraging parties of the Northern Eesa and the Jibril Abokr (a clan of the Habr Awal) frequently meet, and the traveller wends his way in fear and trembling.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

Returning home we found that our Gudabirsi Bedouins...

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

The three Habr Awal presently approached and scowlingly inquired why we had not apprised them of our intention to enter the city. It was now “war to the knife”—we did not deign a reply.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

About midday arrived the two Gudabirsi who intended escorting us to the village of our Abbans.

Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa

my Gudabirsi guides showed me a bright object...

Allah maxaa been laisku niyad dhisayaa

Oo hadda maxaa tidhi?

[RuralMan08]

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If he had only read the book Emp,

I read the book more than 20 times. There is nothing wrong with being a guide to a lonely wandering man, however the difference between us and you is that you bowed your heads before him and cleaned his shoes and washed his clothes and fed him lies, but when he was amongst us he mentioned that he saw handsome men, many clans that feared us including the Girhi and Cise. The only memorable thing he mentioned about you was that you constantly tried to impress him, thats why your children used to become chirstian in berbera and sayid abdalla hassan asked the habroawal boy what is your name and he said John.

[RuralMan08]

Seemyer and Cumar, read this:

"In appearance the Gudabirsi are decidedly superior to their limitrophes the Eesa. I have seen handsome faces amongst the men as well as the women. Some approach closely to the Caucasian type: one old man, with olive-coloured skin, bald brow, and white hair curling round his temples, and occiput, exactly resembled an Anglo-Indian veteran. Generally, however, the prognathous mouth betrays an African origin, and chewing tobacco mixed with ashes stains the teeth, blackens the gums, and mottles the lips. The complexion is the Abyssinian cafe au lait, contrasting strongly with the sooty skins of the coast; and the hair, plentifully anointed with rancid butter, hangs from the head in lank corkscrews the colour of a Russian pointer’s coat. The figure is rather squat, but broad and well set.

The Gudabirsi are as turbulent and unmanageable, though not so bloodthirsty, as the Eesa. Their late chief, Ugaz Roblay of the Bait Samattar sept, left children who could not hold their own: the turban was at once claimed by a rival branch, the Rer Abdillah, and a civil war ensued. The lovers of legitimacy will rejoice to hear that when I left the country, Galla, son of the former Prince Rainy, was likely to come to his own again.

The stranger’s life is comparatively safe amongst this tribe: as long as he feeds and fees them, he may even walk about unarmed." (Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa).

Richard Burton had to pay us money to look after him

But you guys did everything for free. you cleaned his shoes without taking a wage, you cleaned his clothes and even managed to feed this Gaal ibn Gaal that we DIDNT even look after unless he paid us big boy lies. We always got our fair measure from individuals, read this about Ugaas Nuur by your English idol Major R.G Edwards:

"His dress was simple and lacked the usual Oriental splendour. Many of his subjects were attired much more gaily, but none looked more distinguished. He wore a crinkly white tobe, with the end of which he covered his head, forming a hood. Over this he wore a cloak of black cloth lined with crimson silk, probably a present from the Emperor of Abyssinia." AVISIT TO GADABUURSI LAND (By Major.R.G Edwards Le

The Emperor of Abyssinia also had to bribe us because they knew we were not the same as Beesha Qawdhan Iidoorian Al Baantuuwi

[udun]

Seemyer and Cumar, read this:

"In appearance the Gudabirsi are decidedly superior to their limitrophes the Eesa. I have seen handsome faces amongst the men as well as the women. Some approach closely to the Caucasian type: one old man, with olive-coloured skin, bald brow, and white hair curling round his temples, and occiput, exactly resembled an Anglo-Indian veteran. Generally, however, the prognathous mouth betrays an African origin, and chewing tobacco mixed with ashes stains the teeth, blackens the gums, and mottles the lips. The complexion is the Abyssinian cafe au lait, contrasting strongly with the sooty skins of the coast; and the hair, plentifully anointed with rancid butter, hangs from the head in lank corkscrews the colour of a Russian pointer’s coat. The figure is rather squat, but broad and well set.

The Gudabirsi are as turbulent and unmanageable, though not so bloodthirsty, as the Eesa. Their late chief, Ugaz Roblay of the Bait Samattar sept, left children who could not hold their own: the turban was at once claimed by a rival branch, the Rer Abdillah, and a civil war ensued. The lovers of legitimacy will rejoice to hear that when I left the country, Galla, son of the former Prince Rainy, was likely to come to his own again.

The stranger’s life is comparatively safe amongst this tribe: as long as he feeds and fees them, he may even walk about unarmed." (Richard Burton First footsteps in East Africa).

Richard Burton had to pay us money to look after him

But you guys did everything for free. you cleaned his shoes without taking a wage, you cleaned his clothes and even managed to feed this Gaal ibn Gaal that we DIDNT even look after unless he paid us big boy lies. We always got our fair measure from individuals, read this about Ugaas Nuur by your English idol Major R.G Edwards:

"His dress was simple and lacked the usual Oriental splendour. Many of his subjects were attired much more gaily, but none looked more distinguished. He wore a crinkly white tobe, with the end of which he covered his head, forming a hood. Over this he wore a cloak of black cloth lined with crimson silk, probably a present from the Emperor of Abyssinia." AVISIT TO GADABUURSI LAND (By Major.R.G Edwards Le

The Emperor of Abyssinia also had to bribe us because they knew we were not the same as Beesha Qawdhan Iidoorian Al Baantuuwi

[ToughGong]

This idiot got to resort to lies and images from Goolge to to boost his confidence
Waar waxan ku tusey inaad idinku u ahaydeen Gaalka guides and servants
Show me in this book one mention of your allegations.The guy is constantly in fear of the Habar Awal whilst on his spying mission.Then after as you say you fed him and cleaned him,what does he say about you guys

And now, bidding adieu to the Gudabirsi, I will briefly sketch the tribe.

The Gudabirsi, or Gudabursi, derive themselves from Dir and Aydur, thus claiming affinity with the Eesa: others declare their tribe to be an offshoot from the Bahgoba clan of the Habr Awal, originally settled near Jebel Almis, and Bulhar, on the sea-shore. The Somal unhesitatingly stigmatize them as a bastard and ignoble race: a noted genealogist once informed me, that they were little better than Midgans or serviles. Their ancestors’ mother, it is said, could not name the father of her child: some proposed to slay it, others advocated its preservation, saying, “Perhaps we shall increase by it!” Hence the name of the tribe. 40

[Cumar-Labasuul]

He realised his ancestral roots and then tried to cover his ass by lying about Habar Awal, tuug la qabtey tallo male

[RuralMan08]

This idiot got to resort to lies and images from Goolge to to boost his confidence
Waar waxan ku tusey inaad idinku u ahaydeen Gaalka guides and servants
Show me in this book one mention of your allegations.The guy is constantly in fear of the Habar Awal whilst on his spying mission.Then after as you say you fed him and cleaned him,what does he say about you guys

And now, bidding adieu to the Gudabirsi, I will briefly sketch the tribe.

The Gudabirsi, or Gudabursi, derive themselves from Dir and Aydur, thus claiming affinity with the Eesa: others declare their tribe to be an offshoot from the Bahgoba clan of the Habr Awal, originally settled near Jebel Almis, and Bulhar, on the sea-shore. The Somal unhesitatingly stigmatize them as a bastard and ignoble race: a noted genealogist once informed me, that they were little better than Midgans or serviles. Their ancestors’ mother, it is said, could not name the father of her child: some proposed to slay it, others advocated its preservation, saying, “Perhaps we shall increase by it!” Hence the name of the tribe. 40

A noted geneaolgist from which clan?
Which clan did Richard Burton first descend upon?
Which clan was he talking about when he spoke about how much one French lady made you hate your own wives?


I can go on and on. I see the habro awal tomboys are running out of ammunition hence they are repeating the same flawed allegations over and over again. If your evidence was worthy at least it wcould have been taken into consideration however you quote a white racist man who settled and lived amongst the habros awaleen. Get a better source my friend. My sources are credible, it is oral proofs clear as light that has descended down the centuries.

Seemeyer I propose one thing with the habros. Let us just study the possibilities that your father could have been Bucur Baceyr. I swear by Allah if I am given sufficient evidence that he didnt father your clan I will never mention the name of Bucur Baceyr again.

Do we have a deal?

[RuralMan08]

He realised his ancestral roots and then tried to cover his ass by lying about Habar Awal, tuug la qabtey tallo male

I can do my abtirsi all the way from my father upto Samaron Siciid then upto Cali Gadabursi then upto Dir himself. There is no need for me to lie about my ancestry, i am a native man from the Horn of Africa who is from the clan of Dir. Its in my blood! But I have never witnessed a clan who is of suspected origin. Are you Dir? Are you Iraqi refugee Shaykh Isxaar? What the hell are you? I keep hearing conflicting news about your origins.

[ToughGong]

Seemeyer I propose one thing with the habros. Let us just study the possibilities that your father could have been Bucur Baceyr.

Actualy my father is Bah Gobo so our 8th great grandfather might have been one and the same (he fathred you out of wedlock though)

others declare their tribe to be an offshoot from the Bahgoba clan

The habros are repeatin the same flawed allegation

I asked you to give me one extract from the book alleging us helping this gaal
and you come with the same crap

[RuralMan08]

Seemeyer I propose one thing with the habros. Let us just study the possibilities that your father could have been Bucur Baceyr.

Actualy my father is Bah Gobo so our 8th great grandfather might have been one and the same (he fathred you out of wedlock though)

others declare their tribe to be an offshoot from the Bahgoba clan

The habros are repeatin the same flawed allegation

I asked you to give me one extract from the book alleging us helping this gaal
and you come with the same crap

So the desperation continues to the point that you want to claim me as your subclan. You want to call me habrawal now lmaoooooooooooo



I have witnessed many instances of desperation in my lifetime however this one takes the cake!
If the story you claim is true that we are in fact bahgobo then its pretty bad for me!
Descended from bahgobo and Bucur Baceyr

I dont know which one is a worse fabrication, the one that Im bahgobo or that I too am from Bucur Baceyr.

Seriously Im surprised that you can inuslt the great Dir by associating his pure Somali descendants with a descendant of a fornicator and a neanderthal (bahgobo ibn Bucur baceyr).

[RuralMan08]

Seemeyer I propose one thing with the habros. Let us just study the possibilities that your father could have been Bucur Baceyr.

Actualy my father is Bah Gobo so our 8th great grandfather might have been one and the same (he fathred you out of wedlock though)

I have no doubts that your father is Bahgobo. Im not denying that! My proposal is talking about the father of bahgobo aka habro awal. Mr Awal baan evidence kaa baahanyahay! He is the one that we all suspect of being born through fornication.

[ToughGong]

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Hey I didn't claim you that's what this Gaal you fed and cleaned said (maybe he had inside knowledge) as he was living with his guides and servants for all those months

Again I repeat give me one extract to prove your allgations

The case for Gadabuursi is garac:

1. Habro Awal shoecleaners for Richard Burton, telling him that Beesha Gadabuursi is garac.

[malakumod]

this the funniest thread i have seen for a while.
RuralMan iyo ilma Awal
how about we declare a cease fire now.