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Amat, you born athiest. Just like everyone. Were brainwashed by your parents into joining cult of death. Don't hate me for showing the light of truth.[/quote]
Light of Truth...trust me you idiot, i dont need some some cyber character to tell me the about my religion by no means! idiot foqol idiot!
Are you saying Kuffar are not going to hell? That is Kufr Amat say Istaqfurullah if you wish to have a sniff of a heaven! Ask Beards or Aiman they know all the different torture techniques used there...they got the whole thing sussed!
But if there were hell and heaven as described I will not go to either. One is a torture centre and I don't like to be tortured and the other is hell!
That it is!Finally I'll break three years of silent here and reply.
somalisiz, for God's sake stop spreading the hate. You are not doing any good for Muslim and Islam. You and likes you are hijacking our beautiful religion.I strongly suggest to you that to submit yourself and Islam to God
Reading posts here, many people think that the west or kaffars are immoral. It's the better than though attitude many Muslims in this forum have!!
Unfortunately many learn religion from word of mouth, by trusting other people like heads of religious whatever you call (priests, sheikhs, imams,rabi's etc..) without doing extra research and reading for themselves, that is a very dangerous way of learning religion because without adding our own research we dont know if what we are learning and passing onto others is true or not, all we're doing is breeding more ignorance.
I've been a muslim all my life, and I have seen islamic teachings change from the way our Prophet and still some argue that "their" way is the prophet's way of teaching - I don't buy it- to so many new "warped" ways that encourage brothers/sisters not to speak/deal with each other because they have different beliefs / come from different parts of the world. For example, I hear people are affraid of offending muslims when they wish them merry christmas or happy new year...for God sakes they are only words and it's a great opportunity to make da'wa(invitation) and change misconceptions about Islam, we can respectfully smile and say "thank you"... "but we really dont celebrate, but you and your family enjoy it anyway"... when they say what do you mean? You can say well I know we dont have time for discussion now, but here's something for you to read...(e.g. give a copy of Quraan).With so many muslims awakening and non-muslims converting to Islam, I urge people if the Islam you are learning encourages you to dislike another human being for his/her belief (not action/conduct), please do some research, don't just take that as word of God. Our Prophet (PBUH) dealt happily, had support even married women from other religions to maintain harmony between His people...
Islam is a way of life, it's a conduct, our good conduct is best invitation to islam.
INVESTIGATE anything and everything you come in contact with, rather than discarding any subject outright. Blind faith is rather useless and downright dangerous.
No one can harm Islam, which is ALLAH's perfect law. If any Muslim does something wrong, then those actions are a reflection of that person and do not cause even a hint of a dent in ALLAH's law. Some make the mistake of assuming that Muslims and Islam are synonymous terms. Islam is a peaceful submission to the will and commands of ALLAH, and Muslims are those who submit to the will of ALLAH. You're supposed to judge man by the truth, not the truth by man.
We should all respect one another and know what the other believes in. We are all brethren! We all believe in God(Muslims,Christian,Jewish).
justmuslima afkaaga caano malab ah lagu qabay. muslimszis please answer these questions for me: when abu-talib who was non-muslim died prophet mourned for him, and the year he died was nicknamed year of the sadness, are you saying prophet did not love his non-muslim uncle, yet he mourned for him when he died? second prophet siad that if you(muslims) ever conquer egypt treat coptics good and just because maria(the mother of his son) was from there. about visiting non-muslims,prophet(ppuh) visited a jewish boy who use to help him, when he get sick, so how can you say we cannot go to their houses when prophet(ppuh) went to their houses. about inviting to our house prophet invited adyi ibn hathim who was christian at the time to his home, not only that but he(prophet) offered him the best seat in his house. try to make me understand how can someone who converted can hate his parents and not visit them or invite to his/her house when being kind to your parents and loving them is next to worshiping Allah regardless of their believes. when asma asked prophet(ppuh) that her mother who is not muslim will visit her and how should she treat her, he said honor your mother. plus islam allows men to marry jews and christians, and Allah says he places love and kindness between husband and wife, does not this Ayah contradict your arguments. finally i really wish people will stop cutting and pasting qur'an and hadiths,this is very serious, i do not think there is anyone on this site that can claim they can distinguish between the weak and strong hadiths even if they are given the chain of narrators. early muslims used to spend 30+ years studying yet they were never comfortable to say that is halal or haram, but today we see people memorizing two hadiths and two ayahs, and issuing fatwas . anyway let's leave to translating and explaining religion to its people(scholars).
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Ee islaanyahay badhida malaasan ee aad laba buurood oo sheekaysanya mooddo inaan kuu salaaxo oo aad markaan kaa farxiyo ciddiyaha iga gurto ayaan rabaa ee maxaad ii gawdhin ee iiga carareysaa?
Bla waayahee kuu daayey belaayaa wasmo dambe kaa barida, bal manqaska uun igala hadh!
hi everyone. this is an interesting topic, and i just wanted to add something to the really good posts. i have many non Muslim family members, and i don't love them any less than my Muslim family members. when they do something i don't agree with, i excuse them, but can i make the same excuse for my Muslim family members? Muslims really can love a kaffir, an example is a Muslim man marrying a Christian/Jewish woman, family members etc. but is anyone going to go out of their way to love a non Muslim? likewise, is a non Muslim going to go out of his/her way to love a Muslim? we're only human and we can't control the feelings in our heart. and please, Muslims, remember that only Allah knows who has faith among those you call 'Kuffar'. be careful with who you call a kuffar. i think there was a post on here that said 'Jews and Christians are all kuffar' when in fact Allah mentions in the Quran that there are those among them who have faith (yet the majority are without).
Great posts. It makes such a great change to see intelligent, articulate Muslims defending their faith's positive human values and challenging the literalist wahabbists and their brainwashed followers.
Islam like other faiths was a human attempt to improve the lot of mankind not to make it worse. But like all human endeavours it contains within itself a mass of contradictions because it inevitably reflects man's good and evil side.
Which values, sentiments and ideas you take from this mass of often contradictory jumble of views and opinions is largely determined by what values each individual and by extension his society upholds most. So for example if a particular society has harsh or negative norms of behaviour like intolerance or hatred or xenophobia it will plenty of those within any belief system and they will adopt those because it dovetails with their own values formed by a range of societal, economic, educational, climatic and cultural core ingredients. If on the other hand a society has an inclination for tolerance and kindness again formed by a mirror image of same above social building blocks it will find tolerance and goodness in any belief system.
In other words we make god in our own image not the other way round. Your god and your faith is clearly a tolerant and loving one because these are your own individual and it appears your immediate household's values so you pick those from the jumble of ideas that is Islam. Others choose to pick the other ingredients because that fits in with their own views. The struggle is which group becomes dominates in the long-term.
This fight for Islam's soul is going on all over the world. Alas, those choosing negativity are on the ascendance at the moment. But the fight back has clearly begun and the battles joined. You do not know it but you are a warrior for ideas and in my view you are on the good side.
I notice the B!tch didn't reply. Guess you have no logical answer do you honey? Why am I not surprised. In a world of absolutes here you find contradiction that you can not account for.
To the Gestapo of Somalinet, note Intel wrote the following:
"islam if she was she would never had dated a retard first place mad biaj a muslim man can marry anyone who believes in a god , why did u leave
the states and went thialand? cuz its not allowed to live with a shemale is that the reason "
I didn't copy it all, but he called Kamals girlfriend a slut and my wife a shemale. Personal insults way below the belt line. If we were face to face I'd kick the shit out of the fucker. Don't see you deleting his posts, you f-king hypocrit.
One advice to sister justmoslimah you should practice what you preach, go and make you own research and tell me if the verses I have written down is not written in the Quran al kareem.. Barak Allahu feek, I did not mention any sheikh and so on I wrote the Quran the verse and the tafsir of ibn kathir from Tafseer of the Quran a tabici..
[قَدْ بَدَت٠الْبَغْضَآء٠مÙÂنْ أَÙÂْوَهÙÂهÙÂمْ وَمَا تÙÂخْÙÂÙÂى صÙÂدÙÂورÙÂهÙÂمْ أَكْبَرÙÂ] (Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse.) meaning, enmity appears on their faces and in what they sometimes utter, as well as, the enmity they have against Islam and its people in their hearts. Since this fact is apparent to every person who has sound comprehension, therefore, [قَدْ بَيَّنَّا لَكÙÂم٠الاٌّيَـت٠إÙÂنْ كÙÂنتÙÂمْ تَعْقÙÂلÙÂونَ] (Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayat if you understand.)
(Let not the believers take the disbelievers as friends instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself.) (3:28)
Tell me which part of these verses do you not understand ?
