Do you believe that Somalia was destroyed by qabiilists?

[grandpakhalif]

Unlike you, I am thoroughly versed in the contemporary history of Somalia, why would I want may people to revert to age old "pluralism". If you learned your history you would observe that those cathedrals were built by Italians during the colonial era and had no legitimate reason to exist. The suufis you are talking about are polytheistic and do not belong to our religion, these are the same "muslims" who willingly aligned themselves with the Habashis and continue to do so today.

I'm sorry if I reject the theory of evolution and other fabricated theories created by the kuffar, thats not my perogative. Why should we regress into "tolerance" for a people whose only contribution was the exploitation of our people? Nay, we shall break the necks of "religous pluralists" and impose Islam.

[Megatron]

^^ A dinosaur doomed to the same fate

[James Dahl]

People blaming the sufis should keep in mind that Dahir Aweys is a sufi, and Shekh Sharif is educated in Sudan and, according to "George Bush logic" should be the more extreme of the two, since he subscribes to Qutub's philosophy.

[WiglessBidaar]

Grandpakhalif

If one had to compile an extensive list of your traits, common sense would come in at 79. The Sufis have formed the bedrock of Islam in the Horn for centuries and vastly outnumber, outgun and outwit the Saudi worshipping grave desecrators whose pastime is detonating bombs in mosques and civilian packed market places. And the Christers have lived alongside Muslims before your father discharged himself into your mother. If you think our Somali heritage will be dynamited by the foreign ideology of Wahhabism and that people will stand idly by to let Arab worshippers trample them underfoot, you have a discarded breast implant for brains.

There is no place for agents of Saudi Arabia in the Horn. It's the work of moments to clusterbomb them out of existence. Wallop! and up they go to Heaven. Somalia is for Somalis who respect its language and customs and locally flavoured creeds without number. If you want to spread your cheeks for the Saudis, go and beg them for sanctuary because the moment you land in Xamar I will mount you like a bison waraa. Got that?

[JolieFille]

No, Somalia was destroyed by nationalists, tribalists like Aiideed and Ahmed Silanyo tried to rescue Somalia

[kambuli]

Qabiil is the means or the tool for destruction of Somalia..But it is outside enemies... Sheekadan Dr Omar Osman Raabi aayaa waa hore sii sheegey

[TheblueNwhite]

Grandpakhalif

If one had to compile an extensive list of your traits, common sense would come in at 79. The Sufis have formed the bedrock of Islam in the Horn for centuries and vastly outnumber, outgun and outwit the Saudi worshipping grave desecrators whose pastime is detonating bombs in mosques and civilian packed market places. And the Christers have lived alongside Muslims before your father discharged himself into your mother. If you think our Somali heritage will be dynamited by the foreign ideology of Wahhabism and that people will stand idly by to let Arab worshippers trample them underfoot, you have a discarded breast implant for brains.

There is no place for agents of Saudi Arabia in the Horn. It's the work of moments to clusterbomb them out of existence. Wallop! and up they go to Heaven. Somalia is for Somalis who respect its language and customs and locally flavoured creeds without number. If you want to spread your cheeks for the Saudis, go and beg them for sanctuary because the moment you land in Xamar I will mount you like a bison waraa. Got that?

[Alluring]

Most Somalis use anything to give them fat pockets. Qabiil, CHECK. Religion, CHECK. It is not that complicated. The saddest thing is the youth follow the elderly, when they were suppose to change the dynamics.

And for those who look down upon Secularism. Look at Turkey, the only Muslim nation that helps other Muslims, while the ones who don't allow women to drive, or walk alone pay out billions annually to help bomb their fellow Muslims and make them servants to build their fancy landscape.

Religion is an individual endeavor, I don't trust people with my religion.

[WiglessBidaar]

^ There is no doubt that Ataturk is the greatest Muslim statesman of the twentieth century. The Turks though, far from being humanitarians, are the most belligerent nation in the Near East outside of Israel. They killed thirty thousands Kurds in the nineties and make frequent incursions into Iraq to hunt down PKK units. A rough crowd the Ottomans.

The sons of Ataturk (whom God preserve) are not the finest advertisement for democracy. In putting down the beardos they are matchless. But great democrats they are not. A fact which may be observed by the secular military’s none-too-pleasing habit of unseating any leader on whose breath there is no trace of torrents and torrents of Irish whiskey. But it may be argued that in a part of the world marked by a thousand years of clerical gangsterism democracy is of little import, that what really matters is trampling the towelheads underfoot. And I agree. But their repression also extends to secularists.

Let a man raise a ripple of protest about the country’s policy of genocide denialism as it concerns the Armenians and to prison he will go. Mention the Kurds and you are designated as an Enemy of the People. Like I say, a rough crowd. But if the cost of necking Bacardi Breezer and Brandy in the hottest bars of Istanbul on a Friday night whilst flirting with shapely young babes with jiggly protuberant things entails subverting democracy, then so much the worse for democracy!

What the Horn pressingly needs is a visionary unafraid to strongarm the hot-for-the-Jihad crowd and bring in the New Jerusalem. Let us have another Ataturk.

[XaliimoFarax]

What the Horn pressingly needs is a visionary unafraid to strongarm the hot-for-the-Jihad crowd and bring in the New Jerusalem. Let us have another Ataturk.

I rather have the warlords any day than another ataturk.

On the day of judgement each group is raised with their leaders so how can you be face Allah with such people? Guess to each their own.

[TheblueNwhite]

What the Horn pressingly needs is a visionary unafraid to strongarm the hot-for-the-Jihad crowd and bring in the New Jerusalem. Let us have another Ataturk.

[WiglessBidaar]

^ Cool handle saxib. Can I have it?

HaliimoFarax,

Before I tackle your post, are you a Haliimo or a Farax or sexually confused? I can't debate a shemale. Galloping on to more engaging themes ...

I’m tickled by this notion of yours that up where the angels sing and the devils frolic God sits in front of his telly whooping for one faction of Somali politics or another. Amusing. You are free to cast your lot in with a gang of mass murdering war lords who drove the country off the cliff and into the grubby hands of head-lopping, women-stoning, grave desecrating agents of Saudi imperialism instead of a bold visionary like Ataturk who brought lasting peace and prosperity to his people, but keep the Maker out of it.

When a man says that God tells him how to vote, I want to see the transcript.

To secularism belongs the shining white hope of tomorrow. Ataturk knew how to handle the Wahhabi types and banished them to the outer margins of society like Siyaad Barre. He modernised the place and gave a defeated Ottoman empire a forward looking republic of which it could be proud. The head-hackers of Somalia offer nothing but serfdom and beggary.

To modify Napoleon, God is on the side with the biggest technicals.

[XaliimoFarax]

^ Cool handle saxib. Can I have it?

HaliimoFarax,

Before I tackle your post, are you a Haliimo or a Farax or sexually confused? I can't debate a shemale. Galloping on to more engaging themes ...

You are the first person who asked my gender having a first name Xaliimo should ring bells.

As I said to each their own. I have my deen and you have your secularism.

[WiglessBidaar]

Come now my sugarplum, the second part of your handle is Farax. I thought you were a hermaphrodite.

It's only by the grace of secularism that you can practice your deen at all. Had the Western country to which you flocked after being railroaded out of Somalia by your fellow Muslims been a theocracy you would be kneeling at the foot of the cross making tawbah to Jesus Christ. Secularism affords you the right to scrape your head on the floor and stick your bottom in the nose of another sister five times a day so she can sniff it. Isn't that a beautiful thing walaal?

I would give anything for you to shove your hot buns in my face macaan. Question of the day: How do you reconcile the fact you disdain a system of government by which alone you can practice your faith?

Secularism bears the approving stamp of the Divine because it keeps sweaty politicians out of the realm of the truth eternal.

[XaliimoFarax]

No walaal through the Mercy of Allah (swt) am I in a secular country which let's me practice my deen.
There is no point in arguing I have my ways and you have yours.


May Allah (swt) guide us all to his path. Ameen.