Somali bantu back in their ancestral land Tanzania

[ZubeirAwal]

^Well all the jareer's lived in the south, the north was full somali

[DR-YALAXOOW]

^Well all the jareer's lived in the south, the north was full somali

wrong the north of Somalia was full of PEOPLE who from Arabia. one from Yemen and other one from BETWEEN SUURIA AND JORDAN.

darood and isaaq are not native somalis. and they should go back their ancestral land ARABIA

YOU CAN NOT CLAIME THE NAME OF NATIVES SAMAALE people who later come soomaali.

your ancestry was arabs and as well daroods ancestry was yemeni

[Mckuus]

DR-YALAXOOW

Cut it out with this Arabia bullshit, most Darod and Isaaq are native Somali, you know this as well.

Bantus are intruders from Nigeria, they are not East African. Real East Africans are only the Cushites, Habesha, Nubians and Nilo-Hamites (Maasai, Rendille etc).

[Cumar-Labasuul]

yalaxoow, I don't want to go back to suuriya adeerkay bashar al-asad said it's not safe. I think Isaaq should move to jowhar, afgooye, mogadishu iyo agaggaarkeeda

[udun]

So shameful to hear that. Hopefully one day we will be able to undo some of the damage with the way we have treated Somali Bantus.

The woman was wearing baati and shaash

Unfortunately, some are Christians I think we should look at all missionaries and foreign NGOs with suspicians.

[udun]

Somali bantu are like any other Somali tribes, bantus have different sub clans. Somali bantu aka BEESHA JAREEER WEYNE waxay u qeybsantaa:=

1= Shiidle+ they liv gobolka shabeelada hoose. shabeelada dhexe. banaadir,
2= reer shabeelle WAXAY degaan reer shabbele gobolka Hiiraan. iyo kililka shanaad, shabeelada dhexe.
3= Makane= makanaha waxay degaan shabeelooyinka iyo banaadir iyo jubadda dhexe iyo bay iyo jubada hoose.
4= Mushunguli= waxay degaan jubbada hoose iyo jubadda dhexe. mushunguliga asalkooda waxay ka yimaadeen east afrika, luqada ay ku hadlaana waa sawaahili dailect
5= DUUBO- QABIILKA duubo waxay deggaan KILILKA SHANAAD EE SOMALI GALBEEED waxayna ku hadlaan lahjada af soomaliga ee loga hadlo somali galbeed.
marka dadka waxay moodaan SOMALI BANTU as one tribe. somali bantu waa qabiilo kala duwan kuwa aamisan ama iyagoo adoon ah laga keenay east afrika waa qabiilka Mushunguliga kaliya. laakiin qabiilada REER SHABEELLE iyo shiidle iyo makanaha waa dad deganaa Somalia over 1000 years. even before darood and isaak come to somalia from ARABIA.

ninka video-ga waa nin mushunguli ah, waana run inay mushunguliga ka yimaadeen TANZANIA ama MALAWI. laakiiin laandheerayaasha beelaha jareer weyn ee reer shabeele iyo shiidlaha asalkooda waxay waligood deganaayeen Somalia. luqadooda hooyana waa af soomaali.

lesst then 10 of bantus come from east africa as slaves but 90% of somali bantus were never slaves and they were living horn of africa before some of nomadic somali kushutic come in to horn of africa.

I may add Makane produced the bravest of all Soamlis. Ask any former Somali military officer and he would tell you they have been highly chosen to join Somali military commandoes. In 1964 war with Ethiopia, the 1st Somali soldier who busted an Ethiopian tank was a Makane. This clan is so proud that they wouldn't let their women to marry Somali Lamagoodles. If you ask them why, they would tell you, why in the world would you let your women marry men who does not want let you marry their women. Sankay ka qabsadaan Lamagoodlaha.

Bantu are loyal Somali citizens and nthey deserve to be leading Somalia. These are fellow Somalis and fellow Muslims. So much injustice has been committed against them, and I think insha'Allaah when we build new Somalia, that injustice should be reversed.

[St8OuttaDirree]

Darods are more native Somali than Hawiye. They are the natives of Bari/Nugaal etc and migrated from there to the West and South. While Hawiyes came from the West (Oromiya) and are even said to be a branch of the Borana.

Bareeytumaa, not Borana.

[Abdihaliim]

Paternal traces of Bantu expansion + African R1b1 myster

"The main haplogroups found were:

Specifically, most of these lineages have been associated either to Bantu-speaking people - E1b1a (E3a according to The Y Chromosome Consortium (2002)), B2a, and E2 - or to Pygmy populations (haplogroup B2b). We also observed traces of haplogroups A, E*, E1a, and E1b1b1a (E3b1 according to The Y Chromosome Consortium (2002)), which are found at low frequencies across the African continent (Underhill et al. 2000; Underhill et al. 2001; Cruciani et al. 2002; Wood et al. 2005). Interestingly, almost 5% of the individuals here analyzed belonged to Eurasian haplogroup R1b1*."

A remarkable finding of our study is the substantial number of individuals belonging to haplogroup R1b1* (5.2%). Surprisingly, it has been previously observed in northern Cameroon (40%) at high frequencies (Cruciani et al. 2002), and at lower frequencies in southern Cameroon (1.12%) (Cruciani et al. 2002), Oman (1%), Egypt
(2%), Hutu from Rwanda (1%) (Luis et al. 2004). The presence of this lineage in Africa has been claimed to be a genetic signature of a possible backflow migration from west Asia into Africa (Cruciani et al. 2002). Here we observe R1b1* in 12 Bantu
agriculturalist populations (ranging from 2% to 20%) and in two Pygmy individuals. A
network of R1b1* haplotypes performed using STR-data (Figure 2) shows two main
clusters, without any population structure. Interestingly, the estimated expansion time for these haplotypes – 7,000 years (SD 8,100) - precedes the time at which the Bantu expansion occurred.




http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/04/pa ... nsion.html
They look differently because they are descendants of different lineages!
E3a
B2a
E2
A
E*
E1a
E3b1
R1b1

I think makane are E3* or E3b*

[Mckuus]

Darods are more native Somali than Hawiye. They are the natives of Bari/Nugaal etc and migrated from there to the West and South. While Hawiyes came from the West (Oromiya) and are even said to be a branch of the Borana.

Bareeytumaa, not Borana.

What the fuck is the difference?

[Voltage]

only Gosha and mushungulis are slaves from another countres of east afrika like Tanzania and malawi. But other jareer weyne sub clans likr REER SHABEELE who live most of them hiiraan and kililka shanaad ethiopia. and shiidle who live in shabeelooyinka, banaadir and bay and makane who live shabeelooyinka and banaadir are native Somalis. they were living horn of africa more than 1000 year.

This actually not true. The Bantu people were just migrating out of Cameroon close to a thousand years ago. Yes, the Bantu migration is as old as so-called Sheikh Darod but they have become powerful enough to dominate sub-Saharan Africa.

Also, Gosha and Mushunguli are decades ago from the colonial era, when Italy signed treaties to get farmers to farm the plantations nomadic Somalis would not do. Shiidle, Makane, reer Shabelle, etc are from centuries ago in the East African slave trade controlled by the Omanis. Bantus are not native to the Horn and many anthropological and genetic testing has confirmed it. Once you get to the Cushitic lands, only in the riverine area of Somalia and Shabelle into Somali Galbeed do Bantus live and that was a transplant, not a natural population existence. It is like Somalis being dumped in the middle of Angola, all around them is Bantu and far away from the Cushitic homeland. How could Somalis be natives there? The last native Bantu settlement before you get to Horn is Mwingi area of Kenya where the Mkampa live. After that is composed of Niloties (Masai, Samburi) and Cushites.

As for Nobleman, good job for banning. I think we should stomach Somali tribal bashing, but any racism or discrimination against Somali Bantus should be immediately dealt with. They already suffered enough from our ancestors, the last thing that should be aloud is a smart mouth, welfare eating Western kid to continue that oppression online.

[The_Patriot]

Voltage you sound like Amharic "intellectual" that say Oromos came from Madagascar

Whether you like it or not the slave trade immigrants were not that many. But the Bantus in South Somalia are infact natives.
do not try to use the term Horn of Africa to tyr defend your position, Because even if the Cushites are natives South Somalia is an exception. Any riverine area will not be associated with a skinny who cannot even withstand the conditions present.

[Knight of Wisdom]

I see Barre Hiiraale and his ceyr master have manage to make the Bantu refugees.

Nacalaa ku taal ilkoyar iyo hawiye!

Atleast we don't commit treason aganist our country like MJ down with Mj and

I thought you were saying that you are Majeerteen? So, you lied about being MJ and you definitely ain't a woman.

[St8OuttaDirree]

Darods are more native Somali than Hawiye. They are the natives of Bari/Nugaal etc and migrated from there to the West and South. While Hawiyes came from the West (Oromiya) and are even said to be a branch of the Borana.

Bareeytumaa, not Borana.

What the fuck is the difference?

Muslim Bareentumas, and waaqist boraans.

[Voltage]

Pat, I have read extensively on this issue. I am sorry your Somali history is not up to par. Also, the East African slave trade with Mogadishu as its principle port, developed a totally different culture and people and led to the rise of the lingua franc of Eastern, Central, and south Eastern Africa (Swahili). I can't possibly understand someone saying the phenemenon was not "substantial."

The only difference between the older Somali bantu and the latter Somali bantu is that the older Somali Bantu came from the Omani controlled cities in Mozambique of Sofala and Kilwa while the later Somali bantus came from Tanzania. The older have completely lost their ancestral heritage in Mozambique while the later held on to their Tanzanian roots.

[Voltage]

You should read the Somali bantu's own history here delineating the difference between the older Swahili Mozambique origin bantu and the latter colonial Tanzanian bantu.

http://www.sbantuassofsa.org/history.asp