I am a proud salafi

[accident]

So now I must follow a madhab?

Yes; you are either with them or with, erm, one of the other sects.



Carpet clothing FTW.

[SultanOrder]

Cumar I give up tan wa iska suufi, oo culumaada ka aqli badan

amba i give up, waa tan esista

the hypocracy that you so blatantly show flabbergasts me but doesn't shock me either. You obviously are the right path, I can see that very clearly.

[accident]

the hypocracy that you so blatantly show flabbergasts me but doesn't shock me either. You obviously are the right path, I can see that very clearly.

You are having a field day.

[Mizz_Sland]

Perfect Order

As muslims we are obliged to accept the teaching of islam and act upon them, when we hear something thats based on daleel from Quraan and Sunnah we have to accept it!! And alhumdulillah we have authentic hadiths from the time of Salaf. If some people want to follow their desier and stick with bid'ah and run away from the truth then thats their choice. You can laugh how much you like but it will just put you further away from the truth and Allah knows best.

this is what I read from your post

Like I said everything is about trust. Every sect has "authentic hadiths" and daleel based on the "quran and sunnah", the shia's have hadiths you don't even consider, they have their own books of saheeh hadiths, the muta'zilities had their own, everyone is working from a huge body of work, over 500,000 thousand hadiths are out there, numerous interpretations of Qur'an, numerous books on fiqh where almost every issue has more than view, and everyone has a connection to "salaf saliheen" , so you invariably sound pretentious when you indirectly "claim" your the one who has the proper daleel and path, and everyone else is wrong.

You sound very lost. May Allah guide you to the truth.

[Nanees]

You people will not be happy until all women dress like this

There is nothing okay about this.

[Alphanumeric]

So much insanity in this thread, I just got trolled by accident lol.

We need to take a break. Shah anyone?

[accident]

So much insanity in this thread, I just got trolled by accident lol.

We need to take a break. Shah anyone?

[Enlightened~Sista]

Alpha,
Thanks that's very kind of you, but I just had some custard creams and hot chocolate.

[Beenaale_No1]

You people will not be happy until all women dress like this

There is nothing okay about this.

These dhegcas worshipping Wahabi apologists have an abnormal clinical obsession with women. An obsession that is now infested into our Somali society. Rest assured, we shall be working very hard to eradicate the underlying reasons/issues for this sick obsession with women, labis, khamar etc. They put women on such extreme scrutiny. Probably something to do with their delicate male egos.

[Alphanumeric]

Alpha,
Thanks that's very kind of you, but I just had some custard creams and hot chocolate.

That sounds rather appetizing. Give me a shout next time it's on the menu : )

[SultanOrder]

Perfect Order

As muslims we are obliged to accept the teaching of islam and act upon them, when we hear something thats based on daleel from Quraan and Sunnah we have to accept it!! And alhumdulillah we have authentic hadiths from the time of Salaf. If some people want to follow their desier and stick with bid'ah and run away from the truth then thats their choice. You can laugh how much you like but it will just put you further away from the truth and Allah knows best.

this is what I read from your post

Like I said everything is about trust. Every sect has "authentic hadiths" and daleel based on the "quran and sunnah", the shia's have hadiths you don't even consider, they have their own books of saheeh hadiths, the muta'zilities had their own, everyone is working from a huge body of work, over 500,000 thousand hadiths are out there, numerous interpretations of Qur'an, numerous books on fiqh where almost every issue has more than view, and everyone has a connection to "salaf saliheen" , so you invariably sound pretentious when you indirectly "claim" your the one who has the proper daleel and path, and everyone else is wrong.

You sound very lost. May Allah guide you to the truth.

That maybe but what about my assertions? Have you completely combed through all relevant sources that pertain to your faith with the highest degree of understanding and learning, and I may so far as to go with "inspiration"? If not, then you have left it all to trust in what others have told you...

[Landerious]

Even though Salafis are the ones I identify with most, bear in mind that no particular group is completly right/wrong. Guidance is found in totallity of all seemingly conflicting groups. Just identify yourself as a Muslim, nothing more, ask Allah for guidance and read a lot. Allah made Iqra his first for a reason

[Pregnantalien]

I am an Accidentist. In a few years time Inshallah, idiotic people will fight over what I was and about my "message".

[Nanees]

I am an Accidentist. In a few years time Inshallah, idiotic people will fight over what I was and about my "message".

your message is better protection against unplanned pregnancy.

[Murax]

Labelling With Salafiyyah is it disunity?

Allaah Has Named us Muslims, So Why Ascribe Ourselves to the Salaf

This doubt was very beatifully answered by Imaam al-Albaani in his discussion with someone on this subject, recorded on the cassette entitled, "I am Salafi", and here is a presentation of the vital parts of it:

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When it is said to you, What is your madhhab, what is your reply?"

Questioner: "A Muslim".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient!".

Questioner: "Allaah has named us Muslims" and he recited the saying of Allaah Most High, "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78)

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This would be a correct answer if we were in the very first times (of Islaam) before the sects had appeared and spread. But if we were to ask, now, any Muslim from any of these sects with which we differ on account of aqeedah, his answer would not be any different to this word. All of them the Shiite Rafidi, the Khaariji, the Nusayri Alawi would say, "I am a Muslim". Hence, this is not sufficient in these days."

Questioner: "In that case I say, I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah."

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient either".

Questioner: "Why?"

Shaikh al-Albaani: "Do you find any of those whom we have just mentioned by way of example saying, I am a Muslim who is not upon the Book and the Sunnah?" Who is the one who says, I am not upon the Book and the Sunnah?"

At this point the Shaikh then began to explain in detail the importance of being upon the Book and the Sunnah in light of the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih

Questioner: "In that case I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah with the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When a person asks you about your madhhab, is this what you will say to him?"

Questioner: "Yes".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "What is your view that we shorten this phrase in the language, since the best words are those that are few but indicated the desired intent, so we say, Salafi

Hence, the point is that naming with "Muslim" or "Sunni" is not enough, since everyone will claim that. And Imaam al-Albaani emphasised the importance of the truth being distinguished from the falsehood from the point of view of the basis of manhaj and aqidah, and that is taking from the Salaf us-Saalih, as opposed to the various sects and groups whose understandings are based upon those of their mentors and leaders and not that of the Salaf, fundamentally.


Questioner: [Continuing from where we left off] "Alright, I will submit to you and I say to you: Yes (I agree about summarising with saying I am Salafi), yet my belief is what has preceded, since the first thing that a person thinks of when he hears that you are a Salafi is that he recalls much of the experience he has had and which has involved severity which leads to harshness, all of which sometimes occurs from the Salafis."

Shaikh al-Albaani: "Lets accept that your words are correct. If you said I am a Muslim, will not a persons think of a Shiite Rafidee, or a Druze or an Ismaaeeli (and incline to him)."

Questioner: "It is possible, however, I will have followed the noble verse, "He has named you Muslims".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "No my brother! You have not followed the verse, since the verse means the correct form of Islaam. It is necessary that you address the people according to their level of understanding so will anyone understand from you (when you say I am a Muslim) that you are indeed a Muslim with the desired meaning in the verse (of correct Islaam)? As for the various cautionary matters you have mentioned, then these are sometimes correct and sometimes they are not correct. Since your saying about harshness, then this can sometimes occur from individuals, yet this is not representative of a methodology that is tied to knowledge and belief. Leave aside individuals for now, we are actually talking about manhaj (methodology). This is because when we say Shiite, or a Druze, or a Khaarijee, or a Soofee, or a Mutazilee, the various cautionary matters you raised come into play (and can apply to them aswell). Hence, this is not the subject of our discussion. We are investigating a name which gives evidence to the madhhab of an individual and by which he worships Allaah Are not all the Companions Muslims?"

Questioner: "Naturally."

Shaikh al-Albaani: "However, there was amongst them, one who stole, or fornicated, but this does not allow any of them to say, I am not a Muslim, rather he is a Muslim and a Believer in Allaah, as a chosen way, however he sometimes opposes his chosen way, because he is not infallible. And it is for this reason that we may Allaah bless you are speaking about a word which indicates our aqidah and our thought and our starting point in our lives and which relates to the affairs of our religion by which we worship Allaah. As for the issue of so and so who is harsh and so and so who is lax and too soft, then that is an entirely different issue. I wish that you would reflect upon this concise word (i.e. Salafi) so that you do not persist upon the word Muslim. And you know that there is no one who will understand what you really intend (by using the word Muslim alone) ever" End Quote (Cassette "I am a Salafi").

And inshaaallah, this explains our intent and the important differentiation that we had alluded to earlier in replying to this doubt.


Does Salafiyyah Cause Disunity?

When it is the case that Salafiyyah is the understanding of the Book and the Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf of the Ummah and the Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) stated, "And this Ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of them in the Hellfire but one". They said, which one is this O Messenger of Allaah? He replied, "They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon today" (Tirmidhee, no.2643) and when it is also the case that the splitting occurred by their abandoning the correct understanding, then Salafiyyah is but the way forward for unity and is not splitting or sectarianism. As Shaikh Salih al-Fawzaan said, "As-Salafiyyah (i.e. the Salafis) is the Saved Sect, and they are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaaah. It is not a hizb (party) from amongst the various parties, those who which are called "parties" today Hence Salafiyyah is a group of people (i.e. the Salafis) upon the madhhab of the Salaf, upon what the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his companions were upon and it is not a hizb from amongst the contemporary groups present today." (Cassette: "at-Tahdheer min al-Bidah" second cassette, delivered as a lecture in Hawtah Sadeer, 1416H).

Thus, Salafiyyah, is an embodiment of what the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) left for his Ummah, whose night is like its day, pure clarity and anyone who departs from it will be destroyed, that is, he will enter into splitting, differing and fall into the sects that have been threatened with the Fire. Therefore, Salafiyyah which calls to a return to that which the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his companions were upon can never be considered to be splitting.

Mashallah


RH Sh Albani.