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Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:46 pm
by grandpakhalif
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:union wrote:
As a matter of fact slavery is a major SHIRK because you are taking a human as your master instead of GOD.
I 100% AGREE whit you, the only Master you can have is the ALLAH. humans can not be a master or own another humans. ITS BIG BIG SHIRK to claime that your master over another human.
So you and union are saying Rasullulah did shirk

Didn't you know he had slave, even Umar (ra) had slaves
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:47 pm
by Aemon85
grandpakhalif wrote:DR-YALAXOOW wrote:union wrote:
As a matter of fact slavery is a major SHIRK because you are taking a human as your master instead of GOD.
I 100% AGREE whit you, the only Master you can have is the ALLAH. humans can not be a master or own another humans. ITS BIG BIG SHIRK to claime that your master over another human.
So you and union are saying Rasullulah did shirk

Didn't you know he had slave, even Umar (ra) had slaves
well thats not right then
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:48 pm
by gedo_gurl
Is this what is called 'Somalinet atheism'? Independent thought and discussion?

Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:48 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
QURAN
Observing Salaat prayer
is frequently mentioned together with giving charity and thus emphasizing the social consciousness and communal responsibility of those who observe the prayer (2:43,83,110; 4:77; 22:78; 107:1-7).
Ablution
(4:43; 5:6.
Times For Prayer
(1) Salaat-al Fajr (Morning Prayer), (2) Salaat-al Esha (Evening Prayer), (3) Salaat-al Wusta (Middle/Noon Prayer). The Morning Prayer (24:58) and Evening Prayer (24:58) should be observed at both ends of the day, that is, early part of the night (11:114) and the Middle Prayer (2:238). (We will discuss the times of Salaat prayers later in detail at the end of this article).
Direction For Prayer
For the prayer one must face the Sacred Masjid built by Abraham, the Ka'ba (2:125, 143-150; 22:26). To find the correct qibla a person should keep in mind that the world is a globe, far different from Mercator's flat map. Since the prayer during emergency and fear is reduced to one unit, in normal conditions the prayer should be at least two units and during the prayer one must dramatically reduce his/her contact with the external world (4:101-103). Prayers, unlike fasting, cannot be performed later after they are missed; they must be observed on time (4:103).
Position For Prayer
One should start the Salaat prayer in standing position (2:238; 3:39; 4:102) and should not change his/her place except during unusual circumstances, such as while riding or driving (2:239). Submission to God should be declared physically and symbolically by first bowing down and prostrating (4:102; 22:26; 38:24; 48:29). This physical ritual is not required at the times of emergencies, fear, and unusual circumstances (2:239).
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:49 pm
by union
grandpakhalif wrote:DR-YALAXOOW wrote:union wrote:
As a matter of fact slavery is a major SHIRK because you are taking a human as your master instead of GOD.
I 100% AGREE whit you, the only Master you can have is the ALLAH. humans can not be a master or own another humans. ITS BIG BIG SHIRK to claime that your master over another human.
So you and union are saying Rasullulah did shirk

Didn't you know he had slave, even Umar (ra) had slaves
Assuming the Prophet had slaves, there is a distinction between the prophet and normal people
The Prophet also had 11 wives
Can you have 11 wives?
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:50 pm
by grandpakhalif
So Aemon your telling me that the Prophet of God the best of mankind, his companions and their children were not right. But you are.
Dr. Yaalaxow: Quran doesn't tell you to recite Faatihah, Quran doesn't tell you what order to do your abolution, Quran doesn't tell you How much rak'at is maghrib or asr. It only tells you qibla, sujuud, rukuut and salatul qawf.
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:51 pm
by IronSheik
Aemon85 wrote: well thats not right then
Well what
is right than?
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:51 pm
by greenday
Since you guys are talking about Islam and slavery i found something interesting, you dont have to cover up around them
Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace be upon him) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave.
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:53 pm
by gedo_gurl
WTF

Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:55 pm
by grandpakhalif
union wrote:[
Assuming the Prophet had slaves, there is a distinction between the prophet and normal people
The Prophet also had 11 wives
Can you have 11 wives?
The Prophet never specified or demanded any numerical restriction upon slaves, also his close friend and companion Umar (ra) had a slave, and many others whilst in his midst. He never told them to stop or said it was haram.
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:55 pm
by union
greenday wrote:Since you guys are talking about Islam and slavery i found something interesting, you dont have to cover up around them
Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace be upon him) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave.
Makes sense
Grandpa also claims you can rape them legally and if they run away they become apostates

Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:55 pm
by IronSheik
greenday wrote:Since you guys are talking about Islam and slavery i found something interesting, you dont have to cover up around them
Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace be upon him) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave.
Why is covering up such importance to you sister, is it that much of a struggle sister?
JazakAllah Khayr
جزاك اللهُ خيراً
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:55 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
Aemon85 wrote:[So you and union are saying Rasullulah did shirk

Didn't you know he had slave, even Umar (ra) had slaves
well thats not right then
THATS FABRICATION. and character assassination agains rasuul scw. this was invented bye yahuud carab isku ekeeysiiyey . and its 100% been abuur. rasuul never owned slaves. there are even stories who said rasul scw killed a pregnant women because waxay tirisay GABAY rasuuulka wax looga sheegayo. agains thats 100% been abuur because. rasuuul the city of dahraaan once he was walking in that city dadkii daganaa dhagxaan ayey la dhaceen. dhiig ayaa madaxiisa ka soo baxay lugahiisa yuu qoyay. the angel come to rasuul and said. labaa buuroood magaalada ku heereersan ma ku dumiyaa magaalada dhan. rasuulka said NO NO because their children and children will be muslims.
marka rasuuulka saas ayuu u naxariis badanaa. marka wax soconaya maaha RASUULKA OWNED SLAVES. and rasuulka killed pregnant women. all of that is wahaabi innovations BIDCA

AND BEEN ABUUR

Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:56 pm
by Aemon85
Why is having four wives permitted but having five wives is forbidden?
Re: Answer to Athiesm
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:57 pm
by greenday
union wrote:greenday wrote:Since you guys are talking about Islam and slavery i found something interesting, you dont have to cover up around them
Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace be upon him) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave.
Makes sense
Grandpa also claims you can rape them legally and if they run away they become apostates

Istaqfurulah, aint anal a huge sin
