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lol @ defending politicians that hail from their clan. They are all corrupt whether you like it or not. Defending corrupt politicians who themselves are not interested in clan but only money, power and individualism makes you look really ridiculous. They aren't interested in you or the lineage you share so stop defending them and looking like fools. Their only friend is the Benjamins. They will double cross their own brothers to make a few bucks so what makes you feel the need to protect these people in the name of clan? :lol: wow.
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Rightwing wrote:here is the confidential document about the corruption:
http://www.raxanreeb.com/wp-content/upl ... t_2012.pdf
thanks mate :up:
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having now read the entire report I am once again reiterating Farmaajo was not involved in any of these corruption scandals, only a sick individual who hold an incredible grudge against our dear former PM Mohamed Abdullahi "Farmaajo" would post these lies on Somalinet, as expected the same group of people who spearhead the anti-sade propaganda machine are now trying to discredit Farmaajo, it will never work sore losers. :lol:
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There is no vast conspiracy, its just that I find this leaks suspicious, because it high lights what you in your own word describe as "routine" as evidence of fraud, I have read the whole thing, and there is actually nothing defamatory when it comes to abdiweli in this report , he defended himself appropriately and placed the burden of proof on the monitoring group, so far they have not furnished anything worth , being "touchy" about since the only people at the cross hares for now are faarmaajo and the two sharifs, which have so far avoided the spot light instead of defending their "honor". I like how you trying to make it seem like I am a conspiracy theorist , when in fact you are the one who is basing his argument on the hearsay claims of a "leaked" report, instead of making a logical connection as to why something seemingly insignificant and routine for most public service workers (requesting tax exemption for non-profit or other corps who fit the requirements ) is being archived as proof of fraudulent behavior. Instead you are contempt with regurgitating "take it at face value" as though the status of the monitoring group absolves from actually monitoring and archiving "evidence of fraud" , in the world of the sane, monitoring groups are subject to harsh criticism no matter their status, and it is because of this reason that they must have precise and damning evidence, it is because of this reason that I don't take what they say "at face value"
Most would consider the UN's monitoring group mentioning an unusually high number of tax exemptions granted to various companies and reporting that South Sudani aid to the tune of $1 mil was rerouted by the office of the PM to parliamentarians and his own office as allegations against Abdiweli, although I'm not too sure why it would be defamatory or libelous when the SEMG has proof it will most likely present with its report to the Security Council. When you claim the UN's monitoring group is somehow basing its report on hearsay and claim that they have not furnished anything of worth, insinuating that the report, and by extension the SEMG, is not legitimate or is driven by some hitherto unknown motive, most would consider that a conspiracy theory. Do you believe the SEMG is lying?

mody21 wrote:What conspiracy, I have said that I find this report ...not even report this "leak" suspicious, where is my grand conspiracy? among the biggest monitoring groups in the world, the UN Human right monitoring group, and the united states Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) monitoring groups regularly get attacked for misrepresentation or hiding/exaggerating evidence, if every report they made was taken "at face value" , I can guarantee you that many world leaders and corporations would be in trouble, the bigger they are the harder they fall. This is why most monitoring groups go through a lengthy process of research, most often publishing their findings tens/hundreds of years after the fact, they know that they cannot be discredited for being late but they can be discredited for being inaccurate or outright deceitful. As of this moment this report is nothing more than a "leak" when the actual report is made available to the public, and there is evidence "beyond reasonable doubt' I will believe it, you can harp this "conspiracy" point all you want, just know that it only make you look lazy and incapable of making sound judgement based on evidence.
lol, so you don't think there's a conspiracy but you believe this leaked report is suspicious and that monitoring groups are known for misrepresenting, hiding, and exaggerating evidence, insinuating that this monitoring group has some sort of nefarious goal? Most would think those claims are mutually exclusive. As I said before, what the average layman thinks of this report means little. This is the report that will go before the Security Council, and which will be used to determine what course of action to take in Somalia. You might believe that the SEMG has some goal to defame a particular individual, but the United Nations will consult with their monitoring group to formulate its policy on Somalia. I wonder if you also believe the portions implicating the two Sheikhs in the embezzlement of millions are somehow being misrepresented by the monitoring group?


mody21 wrote:There is nothing bizarre about what I said or what abdiweli said for that matter , he stated that faarmaajo admin misappropriated fund in the ball park of 3.5mil, there is nothing outlandish about that statement, it is refutable and subject to the laws of unbiased objective information gathering , something monitoring groups are paid millions each year to do, the strange thing is not that he made that claim , its that the accused refuses to present his side of the story and instead has decided to go into a form of hiding. At this point this point this "report" has not been compiled in a manner that would entitle it being presented to high ranking members of the united nations so that they can make a decision about it. It is compiled in a way that only serves to enlist emotional connections, based on predetermined bias against those accused, there is ..I hesitate to even say "light evidence" which for the most part can be explained by lack of a functioning governmental hierarchy , or system of justice.
A senior TFG official confirmed to the SEMG that the TFG did indeed receive the US$1 million from South Sudan.59 According to internal TFG documents obtained by the SEMG, the PM instructed the Finance Ministry to disburse the funds directly to individual government officials, MPs and political figures, including US$121,700 to his own office. No further information is available as to what these individuals did with the money, or whether any of these funds were in fact spent on reconciliation efforts.
There is nothing in the above statement that incriminates the PM, nor is there any evidence of embezzlement (where do you even get these claims from?) , until recently somalia has been at a cross roads on deciding who to manufacture it currency, there are no systems for accurately managing and distributing funds, most often than not a signature marked with an X and a small sentence regarding what it will be spent on is the only fund tracking system the TGF has, Mr fartaag who a while back did his own research was professional enough to tell that to his audience before hand, so that there was some context.

The second part marked in red is more of the baseline between journalism and fanaticism , and where this whole "report " start to get gray, its hard to explain to an outsider why having proof of guilt is important, rather than insinuating evidence, the office of the Pm might well have distributed the fund to parliamentarians so that projects could be funded or it might have gone to the pockets of corrupt politician, in either case the person who make the allegation has the burden of proof, this is not only for criminal trials but also the litmus test for a report by a monitoring either being presented to high ranking members of world government or being tossed aside as nothing more than fadhikudirir gossip of the day. Lets just see how this whole "report" pans out, I for one want to see how much corruption is going on and who the actual ring leaders are.
Yes there is, you changed your argument after you probably reread the report. I already highlighted the discrepancies in your argument, and you can reread my post if you wish. There's no need to repeat my myself ad nauseam. As for Farmaajo, the only thing "implicating" him in any embezzlement is a claim from his successor and political rival, Abdiweli, which was unable to be substantiated by the SEMG as they themselves admit. As for Abdiweli, yes, the office might have distributed the funds to PMs for the stated purposes, but the SEMG clearly felt that the odd management of the funds once again warranted a mention in the report. When the report states that over 10% of the funds were directly funneled to the person of Abdiweli, substantiated by the internal TFG documents the SEMG obtained (which you bizarrely claimed is not "provable", or deserves some sort of "scrutiny"), the implication is that the money was embezzled. I guess according to your view of the monitoring group as a shady group that is exaggerating and deliberately misreporting its findings, you still hold the belief that you need some sort of "proof" outside of their report.

I suppose we will see whether the UN holds your view come August. Somehow I highly doubt they will question the legitimacy of their own monitoring group.
I see you just enjoy the act of arguing for no apparent reason, unlike our previous encounter in which I had free time to put you in a corner finally resulting in you throwing in the towel, this time I have work and school and I really don't feel like arguing for hours, instead I will grant you a quick and painless defeat. ENJOY. In the Case of Abdiweli V Ilkoyar community the court finds in favor of the defendant prime minister abdiweli ali gaas. BELOW .
Hiiraan Online apologizes for mistakenly publishing that the “Monitoring group report provided evidence how the Prime Minister Abdiweli regularly sends letters to custom authorities requesting tax exemptions for companies or individual that he claims provide service to TFG”. In its first published report. After Hiiraan Online’s mistake was pointed out corrections were made that reflect the true analysis of the report and it should have read that “Monitoring group report provided evidence of how the president and successive Prime Ministers regularly send letters to custom authorities requesting tax exemptions for companies or individual that he claims provide service to TFG” for that Hiiraan Online takes full responsibility for its mistake.

http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2012/July/ ... cials.aspx
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lol, so it took you three days to wait for Hiiraan to publish a retraction to come back at me like you have something :lol: Let's not even act as if you were too busy to respond.

Anyway, I've always found it amusing how you pick and choose what to argue, as if the tax exemption issue was the only subject of my long post. I find it interesting that you seem to ignore the portion that concerns the mismanaged South Sudani funds, the SEMGs admission that Abdiweli's allegations against Farmaajo were unverified, and my ridicule of your tin foil conspiracy theories. The fact that you seem to think Hiiran correcting their error somehow exonerates Abdiweli from the other allegations leveled against him by the SEMG and your earlier claims of some sort of shadowy conspiracy (claims you've yet to clarify...) is only another indication of your deluded mindset.

btw lol @ throwing in the towel. It was amusing to watch as you became increasingly frustrated, with the misused and misspelled words almost exponentially increasing with every post. It was like a visual representation of the beating your ego was taking, with every taunting post fueling your intellectual insecurity. I distinctly remember your laughable attempts at "logical rebuttals" until you were reduced to rewording my arguments and then to bizarrely invoking 4chan in a sad attempt at salvaging some pride. You didn't seriously think that was a W, did you :shock:
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Based wrote:lol, so it took you three days to wait for Hiiraan to publish a retraction to come back at me like you have something :lol: Let's not even act as if you were too busy to respond.

Anyway, I've always found it amusing how you pick and choose what to argue, as if the tax exemption issue was the only subject of my long post. I find it interesting that you seem to ignore the portion that concerns the mismanaged South Sudani funds, the SEMGs admission that Abdiweli's allegations against Farmaajo were unverified, and my ridicule of your tin foil conspiracy theories. The fact that you seem to think Hiiran correcting their error somehow exonerates Abdiweli from the other allegations leveled against him by the SEMG and your earlier claims of some sort of shadowy conspiracy (claims you've yet to clarify...) is only another indication of your deluded mindset.

btw lol @ throwing in the towel. It was amusing to watch as you became increasingly frustrated, with the misused and misspelled words almost exponentially increasing with every post. It was like a visual representation of the beating your ego was taking, with every taunting post fueling your intellectual insecurity. I distinctly remember your laughable attempts at "logical rebuttals" until you were reduced to rewording my arguments and then to bizarrely invoking 4chan in a sad attempt at salvaging some pride. You didn't seriously think that was a W, did you :shock:
I see projection is the name of the game when dealing with you, I was merely stating that unlike last time , I haven't the time to slowly corrode through the fake image that you try so desperately to maintain, unlike last time where I showed you a slow glimpse into your fragile mental status and feminine-esq obsession with me, I have work and school so instead I will humiliate you with proof and facts, something unfamiliar to your kind.

:lol: :lol: @ Tin foil conspiracy theory the only mental unstable person on this page is you my friend, I like how you have taken a few pages from our last encounter and are now trying to accuse me of what I have already shown to be true in our last encounter, which is your inability to see beyond your tunnel vision troglodyte view of the world , and your obsessive ranting over "galia" . Do i really need to expose you for who you are again , force you into a corner unable to construct a coherent argument instead relying on fallacies, and an online thesaurus , and finally deciding to edit your own post so as to make it seems as though you were "winning", spouting nonsense about how you are "the hall keeper for the mentally unstable in SNET", which in it self is strange.
Our last encounter truly was the climax of a mid life crisis, where you first tried the intellectual, then the wise man, then the "mental word guard" then finally the pacifist opting to leave with your tail between your legs. Like I said I have nothing to prove, because I have nothing to lose.
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lol, another bizarre rant that has little to do with the fact that you clearly did not read the report and had to wait nearly 3 days until Hiiraan published a correction to reply to my post. You've yet to actually respond to any of the major points of my posts, and instead chose to post Hiiraan's correction as some sort of "proof" of a conspiracy against Abdiweli, never mind the other allegations the SEMG leveled against him.

As for the old thread, you were literally reduced to invoking your 4chan "experience" after I ridiculed you for rewording my arguments and exposing your intellectual insecurity.

Based wrote:
mody21 wrote:
Based wrote:
lol, so you're basically going to ignore my entire post?

Is this a discrete way of saying I give up?

edit-btw, lol @ pretty much highlighting the portion where you claimed that my terms were "fancy" because you weren't familiar with them and excused your lack of intellect by claiming that "I'm too lazy to actually remember all that crap I learned in school ", and then subsequently claiming that "your (sic) light" :lol:
now you accuse me of editing nigga I haven't change not one of my post , do we ad paranoia to the list of ailments. you believe just because you say it it will be true saxib you are not an opponet , that i can lose to , but now i get your strategy . I beat you at the logical argument now, let go to the trolling and fuckery let me assure you I posted in 4chan for a year or so. ROUNT 2 begins NOW.
lol, didn't you just edit your post where you claimed that you would stop posting? You've been reduced to bragging about 4chan and claiming that you'll "troll me". Like I said, you've been proven to be an illogical, half-witted troll with little to no understanding on how to structure a coherent, logical argument without copying my posts. After I continuously ridiculed your laughable attempts at trying to argue with me despite your conspicuous lack of intellect, you've been reduced to this drivel. It's apparent to everyone just how much of a joke I've made you out to be. Don't even bother replying, abaayo. I operate solely in the realm of logic and reason....this is just beneath me.

To make it easier for you, I'll give you my reply to the many posts you'll inevitably make:

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Note the near exponential increase in spelling errors and incoherent statements with every post.

A word of advice: when casting aspersions on a person's intellect, it helps if you don't consistently misuse terms or misspell the terms you do use correctly. It also helps when your arguments are at the very least semi-coherent. When you make nonsensical comments like "I showed you a slow glimpse" (wtf?), or "I like how you have taken a few pages from our last encounter and are now trying to accuse me of what I have already shown to be true in our last encounter" (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were delirious with hunger), or "you first tried the intellectual, then the wise man, then the 'mental word guard' then finally the pacifist opting to leave with your tail between your legs" (how does one try the intellectual, the wise man, the mental word guard-whatever that is, or the pacifist?), and you end your pretentious rant with a childlike rhyme that sounds as if you were plagiarizing a teen pop song (nothing to prove, because nothing to lose???), you're going to make yourself look like a buffoon. With every post, you dig yourself into an ever deepening hold. I must say though, it is very brave of you to expose your ignorance so transparently to the world.
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yeah yeah nothing to see here....now move on people. :arrow:
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Based wrote:1:lol, another bizarre rant that has little to do with the fact that you clearly did not read the report and had to wait nearly 3 days until Hiiraan published a correction to reply to my post. You've yet to actually respond to any of the major points of my posts, and instead chose to post Hiiraan's correction as some sort of "proof" of a conspiracy against Abdiweli, never mind the other allegations the SEMG leveled against him.

As for the old thread, you were literally reduced to invoking your 4chan "experience" after I ridiculed you for rewording my arguments and exposing your intellectual insecurity.
here we go again with the "mirror man" game of yours , I stated in my earlier reply that there was no evidence in the report to substantiate claims made, you then reply "I will believe what ever the monitoring groups says at face value because they are the monitoring group", I then explained to you in simple terms that all monitoring groups are subject to criticism, and that is why they exert so much effort into making sure there is evidence to back their claims. keep in mind this whole debate was based on the published work of hiiraan online which later apologized for errors they made . In essence this was not proof of innocent on abdiweli part, as I have said there is no evidence in the report that incriminates him in any way shape or form. Instead this was proof of your obsessive need to find something that wasn't there(just as you were so eager for me to be galia),and your blatant lie in saying "I have read the report" because if you had read the report you would have come to the same logical conclusion. You have shown time and again that you are only capable of mimicry relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions, you remind me of a family guy episode in which peter says "I feel like a dwarf among midgets".

Based wrote:
Note the near exponential increase in spelling errors and incoherent statements with every post.

2: A word of advice: when casting aspersions on a person's intellect, it helps if you don't consistently misuse terms or misspell the terms you do use correctly. It also helps when your arguments are at the very least semi-coherent. When you make nonsensical comments like "I showed you a slow glimpse" (wtf?), or "I like how you have taken a few pages from our last encounter and are now trying to accuse me of what I have already shown to be true in our last encounter" (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were delirious with hunger), or "you first tried the intellectual, then the wise man, then the 'mental word guard' then finally the pacifist opting to leave with your tail between your legs" (how does one try the intellectual, the wise man, the mental word guard-whatever that is, or the pacifist?), and you end your pretentious rant with a childlike rhyme that sounds as if you were plagiarizing a teen pop song (nothing to prove, because nothing to lose???), you're going to make yourself look like a buffoon. With every post, you dig yourself into an ever deepening hold. I must say though, it is very brave of you to expose your ignorance so transparently to the world.
I see I've hit a nerve, we are two post in and you are already beginning to show cracks , it wont be long before you started making overt cries for help such as in our last encounter where you both showed your intellectual maturity and mental stability by claiming to be something of a bully or a gatekeeper (I wasn't sure which since you were at that stage just regurgitating words of the thesaurus) to the mentally unstable members on this site. Its really sad to see how you so bitterly try to seem knowledgeable, but fail miserably relying instead on your own perceived idea of how things should be instead of how they are, throwing things like fact and truth's out the window. Like I explain in our previous encounter, you are unable to make coherent and substantiated claims because a thesaurus can tell you what to say but it cannot tell you how to say it, or put any depth or meaning into your argument. Instead of behaving in such a feminine manner as to insult people when they tell you the truth and feel emotionally scared from what some stranger online says about you, I would suggest working on your insecurities and seeking professional help for your ever more deteriorating mental health. Salamz. :D
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Based wrote: Image.

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mody21 wrote: here we go again with the "mirror man" game of yours , I stated in my earlier reply that there was no evidence in the report to substantiate claims made, you then reply "I will believe what ever the monitoring groups says at face value because they are the monitoring group", I then explained to you in simple terms that all monitoring groups are subject to criticism, and that is why they exert so much effort into making sure there is evidence to back their claims. keep in mind this whole debate was based on the published work of hiiraan online which later apologized for errors they made . In essence this was not proof of innocent on abdiweli part, as I have said there is no evidence in the report that incriminates him in any way shape or form. Instead this was proof of your obsessive need to find something that wasn't there(just as you were so eager for me to be galia),and your blatant lie in saying "I have read the report" because if you had read the report you would have come to the same logical conclusion. You have shown time and again that you are only capable of mimicry relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions, you remind me of a family guy episode in which peter says "I feel like a dwarf among midgets".
You have yet to address the many claims the SEMG leveled against Abdiweli, and instead predicated your entire argument on the fact that Hiiraan corrected a slight mistake they made, as if that has any bearing on the veracity of the SEMG report or as if Hiiraan was the sole outlet that published the entirety of the report. It literally took you three days to respond, and only then after Hiiraan edited their article. As I said, you've seem to have convinced yourself that there's some sort of conspiracy afoot, despite the SEMG leveling accusations against many of the other members of government. I found it ironic that you use the report to slander Farmaajo when the group itself admits Abdiweli's claims were unverified, yet question the legitimacy of the report when the SEMG says it has concrete evidence of Abdiweli mismanaging funds. As for your last sentence, it's unfortunate to see that you've once again resorted to using words you clearly don't understand. Can you clarify what exactly you mean by, "relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions"? Is there some sort of "intellectual group" that I belong to, or is this another case of Mody misusing the word of the day?
mody21 wrote:I see I've hit a nerve, we are two post in and you are already beginning to show cracks , it wont be long before you started making overt cries for help such as in our last encounter where you both showed your intellectual maturity and mental stability by claiming to be something of a bully or a gatekeeper (I wasn't sure which since you were at that stage just regurgitating words of the thesaurus) to the mentally unstable members on this site. Its really sad to see how you so bitterly try to seem knowledgeable, but fail miserably relying instead on your own perceived idea of how things should be instead of how they are, throwing things like fact and truth's out the window. Like I explain in our previous encounter, you are unable to make coherent and substantiated claims because a thesaurus can tell you what to say but it cannot tell you how to say it, or put any depth or meaning into your argument. Instead of behaving in such a feminine manner as to insult people when they tell you the truth and feel emotionally scared from what some stranger online says about you, I would suggest working on your insecurities and seeking professional help for your ever more deteriorating mental health. Salamz. :D
How is ^^ considered an adequate response to my post? Since you chose to completely ignore what I wrote the first time, I'll post it again:

"A word of advice: when casting aspersions on a person's intellect, it helps if you don't consistently misuse terms or misspell the terms you do use correctly. It also helps when your arguments are at the very least semi-coherent. When you make nonsensical comments like "I showed you a slow glimpse" (wtf?), or "I like how you have taken a few pages from our last encounter and are now trying to accuse me of what I have already shown to be true in our last encounter" (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were delirious with hunger), or "you first tried the intellectual, then the wise man, then the 'mental word guard' then finally the pacifist opting to leave with your tail between your legs" (how does one try the intellectual, the wise man, the mental word guard-whatever that is, or the pacifist?), and you end your pretentious rant with a childlike rhyme that sounds as if you were plagiarizing a teen pop song (nothing to prove, because nothing to lose???), you're going to make yourself look like a buffoon. With every post, you dig yourself into an ever deepening hold. I must say though, it is very brave of you to expose your ignorance so transparently to the world."

Hopefully, you'll realize this time that questioning the intellect of someone clearly superior to you, while constantly making completely nonsensical and absurd posts, isn't exactly the most effective method of argument. At the very least, proofread your rants and make sure what you're posting is semi-coherent. All you're doing now is inviting ridicule, and I must say, I am more than happy to oblige :mrgreen:
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time to lock this one me thinks :D
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Based wrote:
You have yet to address the many claims the SEMG leveled against Abdiweli, and instead predicated your entire argument on the fact that Hiiraan corrected a slight mistake they made, as if that has any bearing on the veracity of the SEMG report or as if Hiiraan was the sole outlet that published the entirety of the report. It literally took you three days to respond, and only then after Hiiraan edited their article. As I said, you've seem to have convinced yourself that there's some sort of conspiracy afoot, despite the SEMG leveling accusations against many of the other members of government. I found it ironic that you use the report to slander Farmaajo when the group itself admits Abdiweli's claims were unverified, yet question the legitimacy of the report when the SEMG says it has concrete evidence of Abdiweli mismanaging funds. As for your last sentence, it's unfortunate to see that you've once again resorted to using words you clearly don't understand. Can you clarify what exactly you mean by, "relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions"? Is there some sort of "intellectual group" that I belong to, or is this another case of Mody misusing the word of the day?
I am not sure if you are suffering from a memory lapse but you are the one that made a big deal about the so called tax exemption, when I told you multiple times that there was absolutely nothing in the report substantiating that , you tried to make a pitiful argument over "taking it at face value" which I promptly retorted, then I specifically said on multiple occasions that there was nothing in the report about these claim, you then made the false claim that there was something in the report, seeing as how you just wanted to argue over nothing , I told you to re-read the report , that went unheeded , so I thought I would bring hiirans apology letter to settle this once an for all instead you now want to argue about ? the fact that I didn't get back to you the same day :lol: :lol: . I don't know where you picked up these feminine traits of arguing for the sake of argument but I assure you no amount of regurgitation or rephrasing is going to change the reality, which is that there is is no evidence incriminating abdiweli.

"relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions" and later on I went on to use the narrative "I feel like dwarf among midgets" this was a metaphor expressing my view of your self appointed status as the intellectual ,perpetuated by the people who cheer you on because they themselves are incapable of distinguishing between a scholar and a scoundrel. Just as the dwarf feels like a giant among midgets you have been lead to believe your level of acumen is higher than it actually is , your ego stroked by the intellectual midgets you surround yourself with, who translate your back alley metaphors and subscript views of the world as triumphant and grand, sadly (for you of course) when faced with real intelligence you come up short.

if I must clarify everything I write because its beyond your intellectual threshold, I feel as though I will be exhausted.

Based wrote: How is ^^ considered an adequate response to my post? Since you chose to completely ignore what I wrote the first time, I'll post it again:

"A word of advice: when casting aspersions on a person's intellect, it helps if you don't consistently misuse terms or misspell the terms you do use correctly. It also helps when your arguments are at the very least semi-coherent. When you make nonsensical comments like "I showed you a slow glimpse" (wtf?), or "I like how you have taken a few pages from our last encounter and are now trying to accuse me of what I have already shown to be true in our last encounter" (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were delirious with hunger), or "you first tried the intellectual, then the wise man, then the 'mental word guard' then finally the pacifist opting to leave with your tail between your legs" (how does one try the intellectual, the wise man, the mental word guard-whatever that is, or the pacifist?), and you end your pretentious rant with a childlike rhyme that sounds as if you were plagiarizing a teen pop song (nothing to prove, because nothing to lose???), you're going to make yourself look like a buffoon. With every post, you dig yourself into an ever deepening hold. I must say though, it is very brave of you to expose your ignorance so transparently to the world."

Hopefully, you'll realize this time that questioning the intellect of someone clearly superior to you, while constantly making completely nonsensical and absurd posts, isn't exactly the most effective method of argument. At the very least, proofread your rants and make sure what you're posting is semi-coherent. All you're doing now is inviting ridicule, and I must say, I am more than happy to oblige :mrgreen:
oh dear it seems as though you have read my post wrong, I do not know if its by accident or the unintentional consequence of solving a riddle beyond your expertise, but I must assure you there is more than an adequate retort to you lazy statement, I merely stated that you are showing signs of emotional scaring, as they would say "taking it personal". You keep re-asserting how intellectually superior you are yet , you have shown nothing to back these claims, I am not sure if you are trying to convince me or your self. Just as in our last encounter, you incapable of constructing a single coherent thought, you keep jumping between subject and coming to conclusions based on your own perceived notion of what is. Something else I also found interesting is how you seem to be developing this aura of a victim retorting each time with boastful and halfhearted statement such as "questioning the intellect of someone clearly superior to you " as though trying to reassure yourself that you are not hurt by my statement, Based before we go on I must ask ...is based a he or a she? I would hate to find out that I have been attacking a poor xaalimo as this time.
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Re: None of the people in TFG are coming back: BURN NOTICE.

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mody21 wrote:
I am not sure if you are suffering from a memory lapse but you are the one that made a big deal about the so called tax exemption, when I told you multiple times that there was absolutely nothing in the report substantiating that , you tried to make a pitiful argument over "taking it at face value" which I promptly retorted, then I specifically said on multiple occasions that there was nothing in the report about these claim, you then made the false claim that there was something in the report, seeing as how you just wanted to argue over nothing , I told you to re-read the report , that went unheeded , so I thought I would bring hiirans apology letter to settle this once an for all instead you now want to argue about ? the fact that I didn't get back to you the same day :lol: :lol: . I don't know where you picked up these feminine traits of arguing for the sake of argument but I assure you no amount of regurgitation or rephrasing is going to change the reality, which is that there is is no evidence incriminating abdiweli.

I suppose I'm going to have to dumb it down for you...

Hiiraan fixes an error they made:

Mody-look, Hiiraan made an error. Nothing in this report implicates Abdiweli.

Based-...what about the other allegations the SEMG made ($1 mil Sudani aid mismanaged, <10% of it taken by Abdiweli's office)?

Mody- There is no proof, you can't take anything they say at face value.

Based-So you initially seized upon the error Hiiraan made as proof that the report doesn't implicate Abdiweli, and then after confronted about the other allegations the SEMG made, you claim the SEMG has no proof, in essence implying that the SEMG is somehow lying or misrepresenting the facts.

Mody- Look, Hiiraan made an error. Nothing in this report implicates Abdiweli

Based- :snoop:
mody21 wrote:"relying on a false sense of intelligence perpetuated by your intellectual companions" and later on I went on to use the narrative "I feel like dwarf among midgets" this was a metaphor expressing my view of your self appointed status as the intellectual ,perpetuated by the people who cheer you on because they themselves are incapable of distinguishing between a scholar and a scoundrel. Just as the dwarf feels like a giant among midgets you have been lead to believe your level of acumen is higher than it actually is , your ego stroked by the intellectual midgets you surround yourself with, who translate your back alley metaphors and subscript views of the world as triumphant and grand, sadly (for you of course) when faced with real intelligence you come up short.

if I must clarify everything I write because its beyond your intellectual threshold, I feel as though I will be exhausted.
lol @ "your self appointed status as the intellectual". This sort of nonsensical statement is exactly why I mock you for being a pretentious half-wit. Another lol @ the "people who cheer you on". I suppose you mean the people who similarly mock you for your idiocy, or is this another conspiracy against poor Mody? When you use a thesaurus to look for a synonym for inferior and come up with subscript which is literally only used in a printing context (subscript views :lol: ), people like me are going to mock you incessantly. Imagine my amusement when this type of individual tries to cast aspersions on my intellect.
mody21 wrote:oh dear it seems as though you have read my post wrong, I do not know if its by accident or the unintentional consequence of solving a riddle beyond your expertise, but I must assure you there is more than an adequate retort to you lazy statement, I merely stated that you are showing signs of emotional scaring, as they would say "taking it personal". You keep re-asserting how intellectually superior you are yet , you have shown nothing to back these claims, I am not sure if you are trying to convince me or your self. Just as in our last encounter, you incapable of constructing a single coherent thought, you keep jumping between subject and coming to conclusions based on your own perceived notion of what is. Something else I also found interesting is how you seem to be developing this aura of a victim retorting each time with boastful and halfhearted statement such as "questioning the intellect of someone clearly superior to you " as though trying to reassure yourself that you are not hurt by my statement, Based before we go on I must ask ...is based a he or a she? I would hate to find out that I have been attacking a poor xaalimo as this time.
Hmm...looks like you've refused to heed my advice. Sadly, it seems that you've given me some more ammo.

First off, "solving a riddle beyond your expertise"? Really? When you were looking up things to write, did you honestly believe that sounded even remotely eloquent or appropriate in a discussion where an individual was mocking your (lack of) intellect? Secondly, lol @ "there is more than an adequate retort". Do you see where you went wrong with that one? Thirdly, another lol @ "emotional scaring". Did you mean scarring, by any chance? Fourthly, "you incapable"? Fifthly, "based on your own perceived notion of what is"? Really? I suppose you thought that sounded profound, but I assure you, it only highlights my earlier claim of an exponential increase in misspelled/misused terms whenever Mody's "intellect" is mocked. And this was only a third of your post :mrgreen:

As I said earlier, when casting aspersions on another's intellect, it helps when your own statements are coherent. When you write things like the post above while trying to take an intellectual high ground, people like me are going to have a field day ridiculing you.
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Re: None of the people in TFG are coming back: BURN NOTICE.

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Based wrote:

I suppose I'm going to have to dumb it down for you...

Hiiraan fixes an error they made:

Mody-look, Hiiraan made an error. Nothing in this report implicates Abdiweli.

Based-...what about the other allegations the SEMG made ($1 mil Sudani aid mismanaged, <10% of it taken by Abdiweli's office)?

Mody- There is no proof, you can't take anything they say at face value.

Based-So you initially seized upon the error Hiiraan made as proof that the report doesn't implicate Abdiweli, and then after confronted about the other allegations the SEMG made, you claim the SEMG has no proof, in essence implying that the SEMG is somehow lying or misrepresenting the facts.

Mody- Look, Hiiraan made an error. Nothing in this report implicates Abdiweli
I like your take on things but lets get back to reality this is how this happened. you started by making claims that abdiweli was corrupt and used tax exemptions as the basis of guilt on his part, when I explained that these couldn't and wouldn't suffice for proof of guilt , you then took on a lazy and somewhat bizarre retort which was that "I will take the monitoring groups word, whatever they say , at face value " , this was all under the pretext of the hiiraan publishing (which were later proven to be wrong...hence the apology), your inability or unwillingness to actually read the report, has resulted in you to making a fool of yourself.


The hiiran apology shows one of two things.

A: that you are a compulsive lair, seeing as how you insisted on reading something THAT WASN'T IN THE REPORT (hence hiiraans apology)

B: That you have learning disability that prevents you from comprehending what you read, this assumes that you read the report and that you somehow twisted its content in a bitter attempt at finding something that wasn't there.

You choose, I I have said multiple times, there is nothing in the report that incriminates abdiweli, and the hiiraan apology is just proof of your own insecurity and miscalculations. I will say this again and perhaps this time you will actually take my advice. READ THE REPORT.


Mody- :snoop:
Based wrote: lol @ "your self appointed status as the intellectual". This sort of nonsensical statement is exactly why I mock you for being a pretentious half-wit. Another lol @ the "people who cheer you on". I suppose you mean the people who similarly mock you for your idiocy, or is this another conspiracy against poor Mody? When you use a thesaurus to look for a synonym for inferior and come up with subscript which is literally only used in a printing context (subscript views :lol: ), people like me are going to mock you incessantly. Imagine my amusement when this type of individual tries to cast aspersions on my intellect.
mody21 wrote:oh dear it seems as though you have read my post wrong, I do not know if its by accident or the unintentional consequence of solving a riddle beyond your expertise, but I must assure you there is more than an adequate retort to you lazy statement, I merely stated that you are showing signs of emotional scaring, as they would say "taking it personal". You keep re-asserting how intellectually superior you are yet , you have shown nothing to back these claims, I am not sure if you are trying to convince me or your self. Just as in our last encounter, you incapable of constructing a single coherent thought, you keep jumping between subject and coming to conclusions based on your own perceived notion of what is. Something else I also found interesting is how you seem to be developing this aura of a victim retorting each time with boastful and halfhearted statement such as "questioning the intellect of someone clearly superior to you " as though trying to reassure yourself that you are not hurt by my statement, Based before we go on I must ask ...is based a he or a she? I would hate to find out that I have been attacking a poor xaalimo as this time.
Hmm...looks like you've refused to heed my advice. Sadly, it seems that you've given me some more ammo.

First off, "solving a riddle beyond your expertise"? Really? When you were looking up things to write, did you honestly believe that sounded even remotely eloquent or appropriate in a discussion where an individual was mocking your (lack of) intellect? Secondly, lol @ "there is more than an adequate retort". Do you see where you went wrong with that one? Thirdly, another lol @ "emotional scaring". Did you mean scarring, by any chance? Fourthly, "you incapable"? Fifthly, "based on your own perceived notion of what is"? Really? I suppose you thought that sounded profound, but I assure you, it only highlights my earlier claim of an exponential increase in misspelled/misused terms whenever Mody's "intellect" is mocked. And this was only a third of your post :mrgreen:

As I said earlier, when casting aspersions on another's intellect, it helps when your own statements are coherent. When you write things like the post above while trying to take an intellectual high ground, people like me are going to have a field day ridiculing you.
how sad to see the state your in , unable to make logical coherent argument you now rely on nitpicking what is otherwise logical retort and judging them based on your own percieved notion of what they should be.

pretentious half wit? :lol: this kind of emotionally driven outburst only show how much you have invested in a simple online interaction, and how desperate you are to pin a stereotype on me. Unable to refute my argument you instead rely on attacking my personal character and even then you somehow manage to fail miserably, instead sounding like domestic abuse victim. If you insist however in playing this four grade English teacher game I myself have a few corrections to make.
"honestly believe that sounded even remotely eloquent or appropriate in a discussion where an individual was mocking your (lack of) intellect" My intellect was never on trial your's on the other hand is clearly without guard, as you so desperately try and critique my writing, in one of the most poorly orchestration attempt at seeming; grandiose, knowledgeable, at the same time avoiding the subject all together and seeming more like a mental case. In what part of my reply did I try to seem eloquent or are your insecurities being projected, your facade shattered and reduce to hash tags and redundant dribble.
I could play this game all day long but instead I will show your emotional state of mind, your angry outburst, your perceived back alley abortionist translation of my replies, trying to make the subject of this debate my "intellect" while only digging yourself deeper, as you huff and buff trying to pass of a persona you are ill equipped to maintain. :umad:
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