Bixi "no talks without mediation"

[Typhoon]

Darood af xumada waa lagu yaqaana laakin I won't go down that road because your aim is to discredit by turning the whole discussion into a fadhi ku dirir session.

Perfect Order, since you claim there was a union between Somaliland and Somalia why don't you prove it and since you're at it why not answer some of my previous questions.

there was never a union, there was a somali territorial unification and somaliland was incorporated into sovereign UN member state, somali republic
we swallowed the british tribal protectorate.
cspme said reer wagoogiga we political novices and qaad iyo qamro bay kula jireen hotelada mogadishu while other somalis where working hard, scheming and negotiating

horta maha inala siyay wasiirka cafiimadka xoolaha iyo dalxisika so ma aheen ku laha we are a sovereign state baan

The conditional return of Italian administration to southern Somalia gave the new trust territory several unique advantages compared with other African colonies. To the extent that Italy held the territory by UN mandate, the trusteeship provisions gave the Somalis the opportunity to gain experience in political education and self-government. These were advantages that British Somaliland, which was to be incorporated into the new Somali state, did not have. Although in the 1950s British colonial officials attempted, through various development efforts, to make up for past neglect, the protectorate stagnated. The disparity between the two territories in economic development and political experience would cause serious difficulties when it came time to integrate the two parts.

[Typhoon]

Typhoon, you are only going down an unnecessary rabbit whole with Xildiid, sheekadiis wa isla naag doonayso in la furo, sedexdana waad ka diiday, marka dembe ayee ku la timaaday "war ma adaa i qabay marka hore".

Jaw Gaw Naw

war illahaay ban kugu dhaarshee ma jawaab baad u heesa islaanta

perfect
nin ba waxu yiri, reer wagoogiya, dadka waalan iyo ciyaalka lama cadaabo, xiildin dembi ma laha

[SultanOrder]

[theyuusuf143]

These kids are high on something. how come somalia was a sovereign state before we joined them ? the somali Republic UN membership was approved after we joined them. the somali shilling was introduced later after we joined them, it took a long time about a year an somethong to change the east African shillings which was our own money before the somali shilling. This SOMALIA you are talking never existed after 1 July 1960. Every thing had the name SOMALI REPUBLIC on it which we were part of it. look this must watch historic clip of prime minister sharmarke's first visit to the U.S what is the name of the country he is representing ? no one mentioned somalia at all. our point is clear somaliand was not part of somalia.

[Xildiiid]

The 5 points you keep regurgitating have no connection to State sovereignty. They're not obligatory conditions that has to be met nor conditions that define sovereign statehood.

You keep mentioning that Somaliland did not become a sovereign State but you only brought your preconceived ideas as evidence. Somaliland fulfilled the legal criteria of a sovereign state (I find it amusing that you're trying to downplay the Montevideo convention when it doesn't suit your case), Somaliland signed bilateral agreements with the United Kingdom after independence and it was recognized by the UN. Having embassies abroad or applying for a seat in the UN are not conditions that determine wether you're a sovereign state.

The use of the blue flag and the bilateral talks with Somalia did not, under any circumstances, diminish Somaliland status as a sovereign State. Even though the plan was to unite with Somalia, the constitution of Somaliland was drafted on May 15, 1960 in case the people of Somaliland oppose a union with Somalia.

The agreements about the date of independence was out forth by the legislative assembly and it was signed by the Executive leaders of Somaliland. It was not signed by tribal elders. There was no Ogaden part of it. You're mistaking the debates with United Kingsom in early 1950's about the Hawd and Reserve area. The delegation was lead by Michael Mariano and he was accompanied by other men such as the Reer Isaaq sultan of the Ogaden, Sultan Biixi.

[Tanker]

We were never at any point independent we the people of British Somaliland and we don't want our own state

[Xildiiid]

Darood af xumada waa lagu yaqaana laakin I won't go down that road because your aim is to discredit by turning the whole discussion into a fadhi ku dirir session.

Perfect Order, since you claim there was a union between Somaliland and Somalia why don't you prove it and since you're at it why not answer some of my previous questions.

there was never a union, there was a somali territorial unification and somaliland was incorporated into sovereign UN member state, somali republic
we swallowed the british tribal protectorate.
cspme said reer wagoogiga we political novices and qaad iyo qamro bay kula jireen hotelada mogadishu while other somalis where working hard, scheming and negotiating

horta maha inala siyay wasiirka cafiimadka xoolaha iyo dalxisika so ma aheen ku laha we are a sovereign state baan

The conditional return of Italian administration to southern Somalia gave the new trust territory several unique advantages compared with other African colonies. To the extent that Italy held the territory by UN mandate, the trusteeship provisions gave the Somalis the opportunity to gain experience in political education and self-government. These were advantages that British Somaliland, which was to be incorporated into the new Somali state, did not have. Although in the 1950s British colonial officials attempted, through various development efforts, to make up for past neglect, the protectorate stagnated. The disparity between the two territories in economic development and political experience would cause serious difficulties when it came time to integrate the two parts.

No union, but territorial unification? It seems to me that you can't grasping basic English. You can't have one without the other.

The legal formalities were never completed and the bilateral agreement (Act of Union) was only signed in Hargeisa which makes the union, territorial unification or whatever you call it, invalid in judicial sense.

The quote you posted indicates a new Somali state, I assume the Somali republic, however it does not indicate that Somaliland was going to be incorporated into Somalia.

The burden of proof was on you but you failed to prove your case. You and Perfect Order only brought informal fallacies.

I could post evidence proving how southern Somali politicians pimped their girls to foreigners and payed for the hotel and alcohol. We even have the old CIA spy Grant as evidence but I won't go down that road.

Dadkaaga waa lagu yaqaana when they can't prove their case they try to divert the entire tread to hide their own incompetence.