If you say your qabil is laandheer ...

[Garaad_LQ]

lool@itrah. walle i was expecting. white kula qeemo badana!!

been inta la'eg mahan ko fali? dambi ga maha iku wata!!!

Saudi Arabian result:



Pakistani result:



Kuwaiti result:



How can you be whiter than these people? I don't believe it. Pics or it didn't happen. Blur out the name like I did with the above people.

Saudi with 99% north african and Kuwaiti with 98% north african ???


Are sure these two are Middle Easterns ?

[Garaad_LQ]

Waryaa Hyper link me with this J1 cagdheer bro , I never seen Somali J1 before except in some study in Denmark I think that James used in his speadspead

Is he on 23andme .....??

[sanguinne]

can someone explain the j1 haplogroup pls?

i remember searching somalinet and there was this user dawwa9 who was the same subclan as me and got that haplogroup

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Dawwa9 was proven to be trolling and are you for real mate.

well i am reer bicidyahan, mj but havent done the test

[Hyperactive]

Garaad, i think he posted it in the kit website.

by the way there is saudi who are 98% north african. check it out in موقع السلالات العربية. they have enough results that they go by tribes and each tribe what was found inside one tribe. very intresting.

[Itrah]

Saudi with 99% north african and Kuwaiti with 98% north african ???
Are sure these two are Middle Easterns ?

They have Arabs (Arabians, Egyptians, Berbers, some Jews) under ''North African''.

While Turks, Armenians, Persians under ''Middle Eastern''.

Silly semantics. They did this because of the large distance between the above two groups. They had to split.

[Rambie]

Frankly, I don't care
about these so called DNA tests.
But, if there was a comprehend and throughout
study and experiment on all Somali sub clans, I would
reconsider it.

[thegoodshepherd]

When did Marques do the test? That is news to me. Warya Marques if you are reading this, pm me my nigga.

I have heard of two Abgals who are T, one was Tianium. How many more have you come across bro?

Dude, do not be making assumptions about Isaaq based on SM and GX test results. I could throw in kiddmo who is Habar Jeclo Maxamed Abokoor, Xildiid and state Habar Jeclo are all T based on these two individuals, however, it would illogical until more HJ test results are obtained along with Toljeclo,, Sanbuur, Arab, Ayub and Cimran.

E-V32 is not found in the Arabian peninsular so stop trolling bro, it is an indigenous African haplogroup unlike haplogroup T which has its origins in Western Asia and is not indigenous to Africa. Not one study has found any meaningful numbers of E-V32 carriers in the Mid East unlike some E1b1b haplotypes. That does not mean Dir are are Arab but it sure means we do not share the same paternal ancestry as most Cushites such as the E-V32 Oromos, Beja and also it also illustrates our ancestors migrated from the Middle East into Africa at some point in history.

I'm not actually trolling. The age of E1b1b is around the same age as haplogroup T. E1b1b is mostly a North African- Eastern European haplogroup.
Its subclade EV-32 is mostly associated with cushitic populations. So the same goes for T, except that haplogroup T has not yet been well studied. I suspect that the subclade of T present in Somalis is also a marker of that sort.

BTW, none of this disproves the Darood tradition of descent from an Arab sheikh.

[Based]

I'm not actually trolling. The age of E1b1b is around the same age as haplogroup T. E1b1b is mostly a North African- Eastern European haplogroup.
Its subclade EV-32 is mostly associated with cushitic populations. So the same goes for T, except that haplogroup T has not yet been well studied. I suspect that the subclade of T present in Somalis is also a marker of that sort.

This.

E-v32 is a distinctive Horner marker of the mostly North African E1b1b that's found from the former Yugoslavia to Morroco to Somalia.



I'm certain with more research, they'll find a Horn specific T marker. It seems quite certain that both haplogroups were introduced into the Horn at around the same time, carried by a migrating population from NE Africa to the Horn.

Still, this idea that because Somalis have two main haplogroups suddenly makes us a mixed population is hilarious when you compare us to any other ethnic group. We have 2 haplogroups that basically represent 95% of the male population, compared to "homogeneous" Japan that has 7 distinct haplogroups or Koreans with 6 or 7 different haplogroups.

Let's face it, we're probably one of the most overwhelmingly homogeneous people on the planet.

BTW, none of this disproves the Darood tradition of descent from an Arab sheikh.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

BTW, none of this disproves the Darood tradition of descent from an Arab sheikh.

@Zumaale. The T haplogroup is commonly found along the Red Sea coast especially in Egypt and the Levant. There's no way the Horn T marker came from the Arabian peninsula. It has a higher occurrence in North Africa and Shaam.

T is also found as far south as Tanzania. The South African Lembas are probably an anomaly.

[thegoodshepherd]

I am not about to throw out a centuries old oral tradition due to some circumstantial evidence, maybe at some point in the future if it is thoroughly disproven.

I will be taking the test before the end of this month, will post results.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

It has been disproven. You're just clutching at straws here. All the results so far have proven that close to 90% of Somalis are indigenous to the horn of Africa and are related to other HOA populations such as Ormo, Rendille, Afar and Habesha with no foreign ancestor. It's you who has to prove your assertions, not the other way around.

[Itrah]

It has been disproven. You're just clutching at straws here. All the results so far have proven that close to 90% of Somalis are indigenous to the horn of Africa and are related to other HOA populations such as Ormo, Rendille, Afar and Habesha with no foreign ancestor. It's you who has to prove your assertions, not the other way around.

Yeah, it is embarrassing that some are still hoping for it to be true. The brainwashing is strong in this one.

This Banu Hashim bullshit myth is very common throughout the Muslim world. You will find tribes claiming it from Morocco to Indonesia, 99% of them are false claims.

[LobsterUnit]

I am not about to throw out a centuries old oral tradition due to some circumstantial evidence, maybe at some point in the future if it is thoroughly disproven.

I will be taking the test before the end of this month, will post results.

i think you should seek counselling beforehand to prepare yourself for
the eventuality of realising you are a kneegrow.

[Itrah]

@Zumaale. The T haplogroup is commonly found along the Red Sea coast especially in Egypt and the Levant. There's no way the Horn T marker came from the Arabian peninsula. It has a higher occurrence in North Africa and Shaam.

T is also found as far south as Tanzania. The South African Lembas are probably an anomaly.

The Lembas are a very peculiar tribe. They are autosomally completely Bantu and their maternal lineages are fully Sub-Saharan. Yet somehow they managed to acquire 50% Semitic y-lineages and not just generic ones, but very specific ones like rare J2 variants and T1b that is only found in some Ashkenazi Jews (in Somalis only T1a is found, not T1b).

Some eurocentric revisionist historians claim that they were responsible for the technology behind the Great Zimbabwe civilization.

[Hyperactive]

they are doing Eb1b1, tho, m35 and lower for started. its pretty new july 28,2015. they will check 100. i volunteered to be part to their research . other somalis also did.

http://www.dnaarab.com/showthread.php?t=8363