President Galaydh on the drought and Sissyland talks

[theyuusuf143]

Zumaale is a funny character. He has been doing number shopping for his laangab Dir for many years on snet.

When everything failed he is convinced the two haplogroup which every Hornian has let alone tribes will gain him some Isaaq.

So far he only won over theYusuuf but strangely theYusuuf is not even part of his purported Dir haplo type as a HJ man.

Wikipedia made a lot of people delusional.

Btw Samatar is not Muse Areh but Sacad Muse.

If Dir mattered to an Isaaq, the half Magaado branch would be close to them instead they teamed up with the half-Habishiyad sons.

What will Wikipedia change today? Ohh few niggaz test T and others E as if that's enough to draw up conclusive picture or unlike others tribes won't result in different haplgroups.

Give this childish Wikipedia stuff a rest.

Boom boom...

I do not subscribe to dir on the basis of blood brotherhood entirely. We already proved major clans do not necessarily share DNA. Yes some isaaqs may not be linked to Dir . But it's a fact that Dir clans are part of the isaaq clan foundations. For that reason we are Tol and fall under that Alliance. I am proud Dir no matter if an E or T, because the tolniimo is more important than the DNA. If Ben Dover is E and I become T we are still habarjeclo no body can change that.

[Ben Dover]

because the tolniimo is more important than the DNA. If Ben Dover is E and I become T we are still habarjeclo no body can change that.

Gold

There is a lot more to clan identity and tolnimo than DNA, which is why I am happy to share mine and discuss the issue because the results, whatever they may be, bears no significance to how I feel about my tol. As yusuf eloquently put it above, the millennia of shared histories, wars, victories, defeats, poems, suffering and celebrations, that tolnimo is not affected by DNA results because it goes way beyond biology.

I care very little if Ciise Muuse turned out to be Q or if Ayoub is V. It is interesting from an anthropological standpoint but has no effect on what I feel Isaaq to be, or how I feel about Isaaq.

[Sharmarke91]

The Idoors have hijacked the thread lol

[Ben Dover]

Waryaa waa qurjiga miyaad diidantihiin in Khatumo forum laydiin camiro?

[kanadiid90]

because the tolniimo is more important than the DNA. If Ben Dover is E and I become T we are still habarjeclo no body can change that.

Gold

There is a lot more to clan identity and tolnimo than DNA, which is why I am happy to share mine and discuss the issue because the results, whatever they may be, bears no significance to how I feel about my tol. As yusuf eloquently put it above, the millennia of shared histories, wars, victories, defeats, poems, suffering and celebrations, that tolnimo is not affected by DNA results because it goes way beyond biology.

I care very little if Ciise Muuse turned out to be Q or if Ayoub is V. It is interesting from an anthropological standpoint but has no effect on what I feel Isaaq to be, or how I feel about Isaaq.

well said brothers

[Djiboutian]

Original Dervish

So the iiddoor on snet are some rootless , alcoholic bums living on welfare. Should have known by the way they cuss and spit venom. Absolute lowlives and bottom feeders. They don't even appreciate we are hosting thousands of their families, despite our own hardships.

Gobonimo inay hodan tahoo, horay naloo siiyey
Hantidiisa isagoon wadanoon, tolkii iga horaynin
Huuraale iiddoor nimankii sanado, hayn jiraan nahaye

There are no "Huuraale iiddoor", "nimankii" and "nahaye" in the poetry. The original line of the poetry was this:

Gobonimo inay hodan tahay, oo horay naloo siiyey
Hantidiisa isagoon wadanoon, tolkii iga horaynin
Halac-Dheere ninkii sanado, hayn jiraan ahaye

Who is this Halac Dheere the poem refers too? Was he " Idoor" ? Who composed the above " Afarleey " and what's for?

Halac-Dheere was not " Idoor " but " Alla-doori ". And the above " Afarleey " was composed by Ali Sharmarke, the father of Somali second president Abdulrashid Ali Sharmarke.

Sheekada sidan ayay ku bilaabantay; Niman ka soo hayaamay halka manta lu yaqaano " Kalinka Shanaad " aya Mudug yimi. Nimanku inan misa gabadh, wa qof kasta sidu u yaqaano, ay isku qoys yihin Cali Sharmarke ayay soo dooneen. Ragi martida ah, oo ka mid aha nin lagu naanaysoo "Halac Dheere", aya biyo waydeestay qoyskii inanta laga soo doonay, hore lu yidhi "Nin ooman biyaha hoo baa deeqa". Waxba yaan hadal idinku daalin, arrimo fool xun aya nimankii martida aha lagula dhaqmay tusaale waxa idinku filan afarleey-da kur ku xusan. Falka foosha xumayd waxa ka jawaabay Qamaan Bulxan, waa tu laha:

Halkaad cali sharmaarkoow na tidhi waa huf iyo beene
Waana hiijo godobood, ragaad naga hafreeysaaye
Waxbaan heli karaa baad na tidhi waadna hibataane
Haaraanka iyo faanku waa haayad kala dheere
Isku hilin bal qaad xaajadaa kaa hadoodilane
Gobonimo hadey hodan tahoo horay laguu siiyay
Hoh maxaad utidhi wiil marti ah hilib intaad siiyay?

Markii danbe sheekada waxay isku rugtay inay labada reer ee ka soo jeeda Halac Dheere iyo Cali Sharmaarke ay gabay isdhaafsadaan. Waxaana lagu magac daray Halac Dheere iyo Haameeye. Haameeye wuxu ah nin xoolaha u raaca qoyska hoose u Halac Dheere ka soo jeeda, isir ahaana la wadaago ninka Afarleeyga kur ku xusan been ka sheegay. Waxa ku hal-qabsaday ninkii la odhan jiray Faarax Caytame:

Yuusufoow gob waa hadimodeed hadalka qaarkiise
Hogog galinta haasawahaad na hoojiseen gooxa
Hooy baaban leeyahay aroos ku haban taagiise
Isagaba hiraab iyo durduro hadhimoba waa tiile
Hadhuudh waa diyaariyo goolalal waana la hubaaye
Caanahaa haleeladu ka badan Haro shilaaboode
Hadaayaba wax way isiin laheyd hagar laadeydiiye
Nin hal gaaban oo hir dhow baad igu hadeysaaye
Marse hadaanan howraarsan iyo Haa ku odhaneynin
Maxaad dacalka ii haysataa waa habeen dumaye

Habkaad yeel ileedahay hadaan kugu hogaan raaco
Haaweey kun liitiyo dhabayac horlaan noqone
Waa la igu wada hoobaleyn heesta dhaantodae
Haweenkiyo caruurtaa ii odhan haatuf baa yimide
Hareeraha intii la iga galo yaa haan la ii xidhane
Dabadeedna waa la ihoreyn haameey sidiisiiye

iyo Ibrahim Cayo:

Haddaydaan Hartiba ma aha odhan, hunufka saa yeelay
Haameey xaggee jiray markii, Halac la sheegaayey?

Anigo aan doonayn inaan aad ugu talax tago ama cid gaara aan farta ku fiiqo, waxa marag ma doonto ah inu afarleeyga yarkan la baxay "Weydamal" beenta ka sheegay la saxo. Qaybtii hore ee qoraalkiisa ee cayda ahayd waxba ka odhan maayo. Nin caytama waa laga fiican yahay.

[Djiboutian]

Last time I checked this post some were bragging about Ali Bile assisting the nomads who are deeply affected by drought while other were debating who are more numerou Reer Gabiley and Reer Las Anod!
I just checked this post again to find out people discussing DNA and coming with theories from the few samples they saw which they are not certain who it really belongs to. I won't be surprised if Snet members start making out new lineages based on DNA results.

I remeber the days when scholars merely used DNA results to solve which route the world's first immigrants might have taken; the so-called northern route through Egypt or the so-called southern route through Yemen? Imikana sheekada waxay maraysa hebel aya ila sample ah, therefore, beesha aan ka dhashay aya sheegato ah!! Maxaad isu odhan wayday aniga wax iga khaldan misa ninkan kula DNA-ga ah ee reerka kale ka dhashay ayay wax ka sii yihiin?! Let us not troll the topic

@BenDover
Mujahid Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud count at least 19. No Somali speaking tribe count less than you.

@theyuusuf143
It is Abokor Jibril Abokor Musa Sheekh Ishaq.

[theyuusuf143]

@Djiboutian thanks that's two abokors not jibriils. My bad.

[weydamal]

Djiboutian

Gabaygii silsiladdi Halac Dheere lagu bilaabey ee uu bilaabey Cali Sharmaarke si fiican baan u aqaanaaye, waa hanti Daarood,waana sidaad tidhiye, ee waxaan u yara rogey inaan idin rabsheeyo nimankiinan iiddoor aan cayda ka hadhin.

Adiguna aan kuu dhameystiree , Haamey wuxuu ahaa nin Dhulbahante ah oo Daraawiishta ka tirsanaan jiray, markii dambana noqday askartii Talyaaniga. Wuxuu aha nin cirweyni lagu tilmaamay, nimankii Ogaadeen tusaale bay ka dhigeen markay iskaga difaacayeen hungurigii lagu tilmaamey Halac Dheere , aa ay Hartidu ku maageen,waatuu lahaa Ibraahim Cayo oo ahaa nin Ogaadeena:

Haamey xagee jiray markii Halac la sheegaayey.


Xagga dna-ga: waakuwan nimankii iiddoor oo qiraya inay kala hayb yihiin, labadii habarjeclo ee yuusuf iyo bent over waxayba ku sii dareen heeso iyo gabayaa naga dhexeeya ee abtir maxay naga galay kkkkkkk

Runta in laysu sheego ma xume, ee iiddor waa isbahaysi , sida xisbiya siyaasadeed ,dad hal meel ku abtirsada maaha.

[Ben Dover]

Dijiboutian, someone posted Silanyo's abtirsi online and it is indeed 17 names to the blessed Sheekh. I do not see what the issue is with it being 17.

Qurjiile, marka beenta lagugu qabtey baad sidii dhocil la wasay noo kkkkk leysey, typical qurjiile

[AwRastaale]

Zumaale is a funny character. He has been doing number shopping for his laangab Dir for many years on snet.

When everything failed he is convinced the two haplogroup which every Hornian has let alone tribes will gain him some Isaaq.

So far he only won over theYusuuf but strangely theYusuuf is not even part of his purported Dir haplo type as a HJ man.

Wikipedia made a lot of people delusional.

Btw Samatar is not Muse Areh but Sacad Muse.

If Dir mattered to an Isaaq, the half Magaado branch would be close to them instead they teamed up with the half-Habishiyad sons.

What will Wikipedia change today? Ohh few niggaz test T and others E as if that's enough to draw up conclusive picture or unlike others tribes won't result in different haplgroups.

Give this childish Wikipedia stuff a rest.

Boom boom...

I do not subscribe to dir on the basis of blood brotherhood entirely. We already proved major clans do not necessarily share DNA. Yes some isaaqs may not be linked to Dir . But it's a fact that Dir clans are part of the isaaq clan foundations. For that reason we are Tol and fall under that Alliance. I am proud Dir no matter if an E or T, because the tolniimo is more important than the DNA. If Ben Dover is E and I become T we are still habarjeclo no body can change that.

I too have nothing against Dir or any Somali tribe but when they do number shopping is when they annoy me hahaha.

The Wikipedia Zumaale not only desperate but he tries to claim, I, son of Gargajis/HY, isn't your brother.

Times like that we should wipe Dir out.

Luckily he is just a Wikipedia troll stuck on five 23andme resulta and two fictional haplo-groups classified and prescribed by a white kid.

[weydamal]

Qurji sheeg Bent Over,

Damiin habarjeclo inaad tahay la wada arag.

Walee waxaan kugu tuhmayey baa soo caddaatey, nin qurjigiisa maxaad u sheegsheegaysa, lagaroonayahaw.

[theyuusuf143]

Djiboutian

Gabaygii silsiladdi Halac Dheere lagu bilaabey ee uu bilaabey Cali Sharmaarke si fiican baan u aqaanaaye, waa hanti Daarood,waana sidaad tidhiye, ee waxaan u yara rogey inaan idin rabsheeyo nimankiinan iiddoor aan cayda ka hadhin.

Adiguna aan kuu dhameystiree , Haamey wuxuu ahaa nin Dhulbahante ah oo Daraawiishta ka tirsanaan jiray, markii dambana noqday askartii Talyaaniga. Wuxuu aha nin cirweyni lagu tilmaamay, nimankii Ogaadeen tusaale bay ka dhigeen markay iskaga difaacayeen hungurigii lagu tilmaamey Halac Dheere , aa ay Hartidu ku maageen,waatuu lahaa Ibraahim Cayo oo ahaa nin Ogaadeena:

Haamey xagee jiray markii Halac la sheegaayey.


Xagga dna-ga: waakuwan nimankii iiddoor oo qiraya inay kala hayb yihiin, labadii habarjeclo ee yuusuf iyo bent over waxayba ku sii dareen heeso iyo gabayaa naga dhexeeya ee abtir maxay naga galay kkkkkkk

Runta in laysu sheego ma xume, ee iiddor waa isbahaysi , sida xisbiya siyaasadeed ,dad hal meel ku abtirsada maaha.

And what's wrong with isbahaysi? habarjeclo is already a coalition of clans yet we are not less powerful than dhuloos your noble and mighty clan! Isaaqs share more than that fabricated Arab identity. We share every thing.

[Ben Dover]

Qurjiile boy, adigoo awalba midgaan la ciilay aad ahayd, inaad been meesha lasoo fadhiisatid oo markii lagugu cadeeyey sidii dhilooyinka qosol iyo queef aad isku dartid maxaa kaxun?

Dont bring your make-believe qurji fanfic here again.

[weydamal]

Yuusuf

There is nothing wrong with isbahaysi, many Somali clans are , laakiin most of you guys take the mythical descent from a mythical Arab sheikh as gospel truth.

Good to see some of you admit that it's fabricated.

My own opinion is that the animosity shown to Habar Yoonis by the other iiddor is because they don't share the same blood as the others. I doubt whether you share everything. You've had your share of wars ,mainly again, habaryoonis versus the rest.