Northern Harti and Isaaq: Political Enemies

[26June1960]

Xaarplayer you are Musse cabdale right?

1. ISAAQ
2. Garxajis
3. HY
4. Caare
5. Ismaail
6. Abdale
7. Muuse

Me

1. Darood
2. Kablalax
3. Kombe
4. Harti
5. Dhubahante
6. Muse
7.Abdale
8. Habarwa
9.. Garaad Shirshore
10. Maxamuud Garaad.



Baal yaad ka badantahay?

Axmed Garaad na waan Huba ineey iska celin karaan Cidkasta. Baal soo daya Solomadoow lol

Am cigaal abokir at that segmentation not muuse cabdalle. Lool and Habar Waa isn't a man its a nickname fir Shirshoore and Khaalid meaning " those who lost their mom". Or the orphans.

In that particular segmentation comparison iam
1- isaaq
2- garxajis
3- siciid
4- care
5-Ismaaciil
6- cabdalle
7- muuse
8- abokor looge ( notice i didn't count Looge beacuse it was the nickname of Abokor )
9- cigaal abokor ( the traditional chief Akil section of Abokor Looge )

The Faarax Maxamed is totally different segmentation. Your entire Dhulbahate are Faarax Garaad and Maxamud Garaad the rest are not even 10% of Dhulbahante. Nevertheless they cant be compared to Cabdalle Ismaaciil combined Faaraax Garaad and Maxamuud Garaad are by far lesser then Cabdalle Ismaaciil.

What in the f-king world is Abokor Looge?

Lol @ Saying Habarwaa never existed.

Habarwaa Cabdalle iyo Yaxye Cabdalle are the two sons of Cabdalle Muuse. Habarwaa had Shirshoore and Khaalid.

[X.Playa]

Habar Waa is the nick name of Khaalid and Shirshoore. Both were orphans somehow their cannibal mothet met her match thus Habartii oo la waayeey. Thats not a mans name.

[Sharmarke91]

Habar Waa is the nick name of Khaalid and Shirshoore. Both were orphans somehow their cannibal mothet met her match thus Habartii oo la waayeey. Thats not a mans name.

Habarwaa was the name of the father of Khalid & Shirshore Habarwaa. Ma anagad abtirsigayaga na barasa?

[Sharmarke91]

Xaarplayer you are Musse cabdale right?

1. ISAAQ
2. Garxajis
3. HY
4. Caare
5. Ismaail
6. Abdale
7. Muuse

Me

1. Darood
2. Kablalax
3. Kombe
4. Harti
5. Dhubahante
6. Muse
7.Abdale
8. Habarwa
9.. Garaad Shirshore
10. Maxamuud Garaad.



Baal yaad ka badantahay?

Axmed Garaad na waan Huba ineey iska celin karaan Cidkasta. Baal soo daya Solomadoow lol

Am cigaal abokir at that segmentation not muuse cabdalle. Lool and Habar Waa isn't a man its a nickname fir Shirshoore and Khaalid meaning " those who lost their mom". Or the orphans.

In that particular segmentation comparison iam
1- isaaq
2- garxajis
3- siciid
4- care
5-Ismaaciil
6- cabdalle
7- muuse
8- abokor looge ( notice i didn't count Looge beacuse it was the nickname of Abokor )
9- cigaal abokor ( the traditional chief Akil section of Abokor Looge )

The Faarax Maxamed is totally different segmentation. Your entire Dhulbahate are Faarax Garaad and Maxamud Garaad the rest are not even 10% of Dhulbahante. Nevertheless they cant be compared to Cabdalle Ismaaciil combined Faaraax Garaad and Maxamuud Garaad are by far lesser then Cabdalle Ismaaciil.

my sister-in-law happens to hail from reerkan.

Correction;

Mohamud & Faarah Garad make about 2/3 of the Dhulbahante clans.

[grandpakhalif]

The darod need to understand that the only reason few subs of hj and hy marry your women is because your women are cheaper, they can spend the meher they spend on one Isaaq woman for 3 jebarti women.

Are you crazy? Darod women require brand new AK47, yarad, sooriyo etc and those are the miyi ones

They are by far the most expensive in the country whilst Dirta waqooyi women only require a few bundles of khat

[26June1960]

Habar Waa is the nick name of Khaalid and Shirshoore. Both were orphans somehow their cannibal mothet met her match thus Habartii oo la waayeey. Thats not a mans name.

Just stop. You're making yourself look f-king stupid.

[Sharmarke91]

This one fell on his head when his mother shitted him at birth.
Go learn the difference between estimation and facts. What an idiot.

1, the fight is in YOUR land which basically means YOU'RE the victim.

2, Why would whole of Somaliland be involved when not even Habar Jeclo hawd are not fighting.

3, Buhoodle is your second largest town and has a collection of different Dhulbante tribes, and these Solomadow guys came all the Dhulbahntes for a fight. What balls on these guys.

4, Part of Buhoodle is on the Ethiopian side. Meaning not even the original Somali government had the whole town. Lol

dumb retard! read before you respond,

Did I say the writer presented those figures as facts? I repeated the word ESTIMATED twice, being aware of the mental retardation the Dabacayuun people suffer from, I consciously repeated the word, so you don't have difficulty in understanding what I mean.

1 - ... and I said I resisted the Idoor invasion by slaughtering their cowardly militiamen, hence protecting my sovereignty.

2 - It's well documented that the Isaaqland milita were fully involved in this conflict under the pretence of keeping the peace.

3 - Siilmadow are nothing but Dhulbahante target practice.

4- lol and...?

SL army lost less then 50 men and your tribe lost close to 300 or precisely 274 dead. The army won every engagement and pushed your small clan to Buhoodle in the conclusion of the battle SL army was in the door step of Buhoodle itself. The army was not involved at all contrary to your mafrish claim. I followed those battles hourly the first attack on the army was initiated by your clan aftet loosing the litigation at Qorilugud your elders plotted to make the war not between dhulos and solomadow but between an army and Dhulbahante clans. By doing so you calculated once the army retaliate your " tolaayeey beesha caalamka" wail will win you international sympathy and Daarood sympathy sadly you left the Qorilugud shir with 6 extera death of solomadow but once your tail wagged the Somaliland army you lost46 times more casually total of 274. It was so disastrous your people are calling these battles " xasuuqii kalshaale"

So how did you win anything? And if you won as you claim how come the SL army was stationed in the disputed land almost a year later without having a single shot fired at them?

Bitch did you enter Buuhoodle? NO

Therefore, you lost!

..plus this was between reer Buuhoodle and the entire Isaaq.

All the martyrs will never be forgotten.

They succeeded in maintaining the freedom of their people in their sacrifice.

[26June1960]

^ Buuhoodle ma'aadan qabsan wax lagu faano ma'aha. The guys are in control from Qorilugud to Caynaba and both use to be Dhulbahante settlements. I suggest you avoid arguing about fighting because Dhulbahante has sabotaged each other for many years resulting in loosing more land to Isaaq.

[Sharmarke91]

^ Buuhoodle ma'aadan qabsan wax lagu faano ma'aha. The guys are in control from Qorilugud to Caynaba and both use to be Dhulbahante settlements. I suggest you avoid arguing about fighting because Dhulbahante has sabotaged each other for many years resulting in loosing more land to Isaaq.

Those are long vacated areas due to the population decrease the Dhulbahante incurred in the Dervish wars.

Abaha Somaliyeed ee ku wasa habeen kasta orod oo iska soo dhici adigu horta!

[26June1960]

^ Buuhoodle ma'aadan qabsan wax lagu faano ma'aha. The guys are in control from Qorilugud to Caynaba and both use to be Dhulbahante settlements. I suggest you avoid arguing about fighting because Dhulbahante has sabotaged each other for many years resulting in loosing more land to Isaaq.

Those are long vacated areas due to the population decrease the Dhulbahante incurred in the Dervish wars.

Abaha Somaliyeed ee ku wasa habeen kasta orod oo iska soo dhici adigu horta!

Don't get mad. If you can't take the heat then don't step into the kitchen. Oog use to be a Jaamac Siyaad. They lost after battling SNM. They didn't get any support from Ugaadhyahan let alone other Dhulos. So, they packed the belongings and literally moved out of Oog in fear of further SNM attacks. This is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. They fight alone (sub-clan vs Isaaq) and vacate areas in order to avoid more casualty.

Why do you think Badhan is considered to be the "capital" of Sanaag for Hartiga? Harti lost Ceerigaabo in 1991. In order to re-establish Harti domination, you'd have to be united. Good luck.

[Sharmarke91]

^ Buuhoodle ma'aadan qabsan wax lagu faano ma'aha. The guys are in control from Qorilugud to Caynaba and both use to be Dhulbahante settlements. I suggest you avoid arguing about fighting because Dhulbahante has sabotaged each other for many years resulting in loosing more land to Isaaq.

Those are long vacated areas due to the population decrease the Dhulbahante incurred in the Dervish wars.

Abaha Somaliyeed ee ku wasa habeen kasta orod oo iska soo dhici adigu horta!

Don't get mad. If you can't take the heat then don't step into the kitchen. Oog use to be a Jaamac Siyaad. They lost after battling SNM. They didn't get any support from Ugaadhyahan let alone other Dhulos. So, they packed the belongings and literally moved out of Oog in fear of further SNM attacks. This is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. They fight alone (sub-clan vs Isaaq) and vacate areas in order to avoid more casualty.

Why do you think Badhan is considered to be the "capital" of Sanaag for Hartiga? Harti lost Ceerigaabo in 1991. In order to re-establish Harti domination, you'd have to be united. Good luck.

There was never a battle between SNM and Dhulbahante for Oog. They started to settle there during the Siad Barre era, when we were busy running the country and territory did not have the importance it has today - so, stop spreading your propaganda and stop spreading your legs for abaha unmada somaliyeed!

Harti haven't lost Ceerigabo, we still own, settle and dominate it!

Badhan is just the capital of Warsengali. Erigavo remains to be the capital of Sanaag for both Harti clans.

[26June1960]

Those are long vacated areas due to the population decrease the Dhulbahante incurred in the Dervish wars.

Abaha Somaliyeed ee ku wasa habeen kasta orod oo iska soo dhici adigu horta!

Don't get mad. If you can't take the heat then don't step into the kitchen. Oog use to be a Jaamac Siyaad. They lost after battling SNM. They didn't get any support from Ugaadhyahan let alone other Dhulos. So, they packed the belongings and literally moved out of Oog in fear of further SNM attacks. This is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. They fight alone (sub-clan vs Isaaq) and vacate areas in order to avoid more casualty.

Why do you think Badhan is considered to be the "capital" of Sanaag for Hartiga? Harti lost Ceerigaabo in 1991. In order to re-establish Harti domination, you'd have to be united. Good luck.

There was never a battle between SNM and Dhulbahante for Oog. They started to settle there during the Siad Barre era, when we were busy running the country and territory did not have the importance it has today - so, stop spreading your propaganda and stop spreading your legs for abaha unmada somaliyeed!

Harti haven't lost Ceerigabo, we still own, settle and dominate it!

Badhan is just the capital of Warsengali. Erigavo remains to be the capital of Sanaag for both Harti clans.

Miskin.

[Sharmarke91]

Don't get mad. If you can't take the heat then don't step into the kitchen. Oog use to be a Jaamac Siyaad. They lost after battling SNM. They didn't get any support from Ugaadhyahan let alone other Dhulos. So, they packed the belongings and literally moved out of Oog in fear of further SNM attacks. This is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. They fight alone (sub-clan vs Isaaq) and vacate areas in order to avoid more casualty.

Why do you think Badhan is considered to be the "capital" of Sanaag for Hartiga? Harti lost Ceerigaabo in 1991. In order to re-establish Harti domination, you'd have to be united. Good luck.

There was never a battle between SNM and Dhulbahante for Oog. They started to settle there during the Siad Barre era, when we were busy running the country and territory did not have the importance it has today - so, stop spreading your propaganda and stop spreading your legs for abaha unmada somaliyeed!

Harti haven't lost Ceerigabo, we still own, settle and dominate it!

Badhan is just the capital of Warsengali. Erigavo remains to be the capital of Sanaag for both Harti clans.

Miskin.

Did you expect me to call for an all out war with Isaaq over a few villages on the periphery which we voluntarily vacated decades ago?

The Dhulbahante clans have abandoned a huge portion of territory since the Dervish struggle. Places as far a field as Beer, El Afweyn, Gaatama, Garadag, Balidhiig etc. in the west. In the east we left places like Garowe, Burtinle, Galkacyo etc. So, if we claim these border villages then we might as well claim these too.

Prior to the European colonists arriving in the Somali peninsula, during the first half of the 19th century, the Dhulbahante stretched from Eyl in the Indian Ocean coast to Sheikh. Again we if we are going claim land vacated during the colonial period we might as well claim these lands too.

So, where does it stop?

I think we should focus to ensure that not an inch of our current territory is succeeded to our neighbouring enemy clans. Alhamudilah we have enough land!

As for the disunity among the Dhulbahante, it was the lack of a strong leadership and a common political purpose to unit us. Our Achilles heel was our firm believe in Somalinimo and Somali unity, but we are enlightened that no such thing exists. Therefore, we have overcome this and are in pursuit of securing our interests, progress has already started, with the talks of Somaliland and Khatumo.

[grandpakhalif]

Sharmaake is right, I believe the Dervish wars were absolutely crucial in expelling British influence in the North. Remember it was the Dhulbahante clan who bore the brunt of this struggle and sacrificed thousands of men to achieve victory. Pre dervish wars dhullo population streched from the outskirts of Burco all the way too the edge of Nugaal valley, down until the periphery of Hawd including Wardheer.

They were certainly the most powerful clan in Northern Somalia at the time and struck so much fear into the hearts of idoor that X Playa's subclan use to hide in the mountains to avoid relentless camel raids by the great Garaads of that time. This was the era in which Fiqishini a subclan of the HG were essentially given safe haven in the north

Unfortunately with resistance to the empire comes huge casualties and the treacherous tribes took advantage by populating once vibrant communities. This trend has been aided and abetted by the new one clan failed ictiraafdoon clan enclave but shall be defeated inshalla by a reemerging strong govt

[X.Playa]

Loool war with isaaq . Since when h.y subclans or h.j subclans became Isaaq. Am western/oodweyne h.y ( ba dhulbahante, ugaadh cumar, reer Sugulle, isaxaaq, muuse cabdalle, gumbuur, Carrabala, reer Abokor , idreys) and non of these clans ever faught Harti only H.Y burco ( xirsi cismaan , reer Cawl, muuse care, Cali Siciid and reer Xuseen) and eastern h.y ( muuse care, Gadhweyn and Sacad Yoonis) mostly the later engage Harti.

Do you even know how large and extensive these clans are? Caqli yaraa Daarood ku waa iska candhobuur.

Not a single h.y other then eastern h.y mostly Gadhweyn have ever fought the Harti there and that large clan manged to chase both Dhulbahante, Warsangali and Gahayle out of Sanaag and Ceerigaabo.

Western h.y and most of Burco h.y traditionally were the clans that bitch slapped the ogadens. If the entire h.y came to war Gaalkacyo would be the battle ground not some qurji town.