Justice for Somali victims

[zidane88]

OD, this is why Somalis are always divided by not looking far and beyond. It is not the time now for my d@@k is bigger than yours.
Zumaale, Jarar debate should be another day, i don't want that deflecting this topic.

[zumaale]

No worries bro. Sorry for further derailing your thread.

[original dervish]

I've seen this show before......new "reformist leader" selected by shadowy elites.
Discussions take place with main western donors.......as long as corporate/banking interests are protected you can do what you like with the locals. Heck they'll even supply the weapons.....for a price of course.

[zidane88]

Worst are yet to come as emerging news is that Liyu police refusing to corporate with this admin, and gathering themselves an area in the region, after their leader fired. New war strated in a new frontier in Nogob between Oromos and Somalis, we don't know yet who started it. It is quite clear there's beneficiary in this war.

[AbdiWahab252]

OD, this is why Somalis are always divided by not looking far and beyond. It is not the time now for my d@@k is bigger than yours.
Zumaale, Jarar debate should be another day, i don't want that deflecting this topic.

But that requires compromise? Advocating for Cabdi Ileeys freedom does not win you any friends

[KingMX]

Zidane you must understand a strong government is the only thing that can protect Somali ppl at home and abroad. This is where negotiations and deals stem from and in the end hopefully settle disputes. But this is nearly impossible as Somalis do not want to be governed or are anti gov. Furthermore Somalis fight each other in such a clannish behaviour up to even the gov level... that this division is why we cannot protect ourselves. No gov = no power no control just small armed militia (like Al shabaab) doing what they do. But these get striked down heavily from countries who have stable governance. The farmaajo admin who is fighting for stability is simply too weak and not supported enough by the people (tax ect). Thus these atrocities keep happening.

All country's issues can be solved via good governance how do we make Somalis understand is another Q.

[zidane88]

OD, this is why Somalis are always divided by not looking far and beyond. It is not the time now for my d@@k is bigger than yours.
Zumaale, Jarar debate should be another day, i don't want that deflecting this topic.

But that requires compromise? Advocating for Cabdi Ileeys freedom does not win you any friends

Abdihutu, where have i advocated his release? The f@@k i care Abdi, let him rot in jail he deserves. Stand by your Somali people, specially Hutu ones...that is the language you understand.

[original dervish]

Zidane.....unfortunately ileey has poisoned the well of Somali solidarity.
The hated liyu waged a terror campaign against every single Somali group in ddsi.
People are happy to see ileey in jail and liyu on the run.....they can't see the bigger picture.

[Salaxbaashe]

We Somalis haven’t been able to adjust to statehood and have reverted back to our clan based citizenship and governance. If you look back at our history the only time we’ve been successful is under Islamic sultanates and the rest of the time we've been maroding clans who’s worst enemy is their neighbour. The thing about clanism is there is no bottom it keeps going to a never ending sub sub sub sub clan level.

The reason why the state of somalia has been like this for so long is because the clan of the president thinks the power of the state is theirs and other clans veiw that as a threat and will be anti government from the start so the wheels never get moving.

You have to ask yourself why the Somalis that joined k4 have better positions in a kilil with 50m people than a kilil with 5 million people. Why did this new madaxweyne ku xigeen give all the positions to his clan.

[Salaxbaashe]

We Somalis haven’t been able to adjust to statehood and have reverted back to our clan based citizenship and governance. If you look back at our history the only time we’ve been successful is under Islamic sultanates and the rest of the time we've been maroding clans who’s worst enemy is their neighbour. The thing about clanism is there is no bottom it keeps going to a never ending sub sub sub sub clan level.

The reason why the state of somalia has been like this for so long is because the clan of the president thinks the power of the state is theirs and other clans veiw that as a threat and will be anti government from the start so the wheels never get moving.

You have to ask yourself why the Somalis that joined k4 have better positions in a kilil with 50m people than a kilil with 5 million people. Why did this new madaxweyne ku xigeen give all the positions to his clan.

All this positions stuff is stupid aswell tbh you don’t hear other country’s saying 2 ministers for Liverpool 1 for Manchester no fair but the problem is there is no nationalism to the state and on top of that there is no ethnic nationalism that’s how a country with 82 ethnic groups is easier to keep together than a state that is basically one family.

[Togdeer]

Somalis are biggest enemy to other Somalis. What Somalis did to each other no foreign power has ever done to us. So when some clans expect unity from other rival clans in the name of somalino this makes me laugh. Because it was the same people they were killing/ raping yesterday.

[zidane88]

Togdheer, I know what you mean, but OGs are not being slaughtering left, centre, and right, now. The others Somalis are the ones who needs your voice. Keep your hate for OG on another day.

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Togdeer

I agree, however people need to wake up from primitive clannism. Diri Dhabe was hit tomorrow they would hit Jigjiga if they could and then Hargrysa they aren't checking people's foot sizes lol Abdi Iley clamps down on his own Ogaden kin so Ogaden as a clan should not be held accountable for whatever his crimes are.

[Togdeer]

Togdheer, I know what you mean, but OGs are not being slaughtering left, centre, and right, now. The others Somalis are the ones who needs your voice. Keep your hate for OG on another day.

I wasn’t even referring to your clan you cuqdad ridden person. That’s the difference between me and you I’m a free thinker, you label and stereotype about every clan.

[Togdeer]

Togdeer

I agree, however people need to wake up from primitive clannism. Diri Dhabe was hit tomorrow they would hit Jigjiga if they could and then Hargrysa they aren't checking people's foot sizes lol Abdi Iley clamps down on his own Ogaden kin so Ogaden as a clan should not be held accountable for whatever his crimes are.

I’m not pointing fingers at any clan here. I was referring to Abdi Iley and his liyu dogs. This guy and his dogs killed more Somalis than Oromo, TPLF and federal army combined. After they targeted every clan in the region killed children raped women...etc. They want people to forget about it and join them in their new struggle. Do liyu police thing we are all animals. Why should anyone help them fight. They can go to hell.