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Sxb......it's well known among the older generation.
Until relatively recently hj we're nobody's....they only became something after the defeat of the Darwiish and proselytizing by English missionaries.

original dervish wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:13 am Sxb......it's well known among the older generation.
Until relatively recently hj we're nobody's....they only became something after the defeat of the Darwiish and proselytizing by English missionaries.

How about bringing sources backing your claims?

If HJ were nobodies then how come our costal settlement Karin generated more wealth than the entire MJ coast? lol

The Dervish terrorist movement had HJ in its top rank in the form of Haji Sudi, the spiritual father of the movement. Can you provide the name of any dhulos in the top rank of Dervish?

Sxb.....I'm not gonna enter into a pissing match with.
I merely stated what most northerners know to be true.

hj were a hill tribe confederation centered around Guban and surrounding hills.
It was only during the last 70 years or so, that they became a moderately sized tribe.

Today hj confederation is one of the msjor northern clans....that's without doubt......but they have no real history as compared to the major northern clans.

this is their legacy.. history can never be rewritten



this is dhulbahante's

Dhulbahante are inferior to habar jeclo , historically, militarily, politically and economically. Even in daraawiish we were the leaders and they were the Cannon fodders. Plus we never Lost one inch of land to the dhuloos by they Lost huge land to us. OD can't back his claims .

Yusef......c'mon man.....you can't bullshit me.
The hj were little more than a confederation of hill tribes for almost a thousand years.

They only appear on the human record around 70 years ago.which is an admirable achievement......but don't try and rewrite history man.

original dervish wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:52 am Sxb.....I'm not gonna enter into a pissing match with.
I merely stated what most northerners know to be true.

hj were a hill tribe confederation centered around Guban and surrounding hills.
It was only during the last 70 years or so, that they became a moderately sized tribe.

Today hj confederation is one of the msjor northern clans....that's without doubt......but they have no real history as compared to the major northern clans.

In other words... you can’t back up the shit you claim.

You've obviously taken it personally.
Tell me where were hj 100 years ago.....apart from a few sub clans......the rest were all in the hills and Guban.

Hj only appear on the scene after the end of the Darwiish and English missionary activity.

You claim you took Dhulbahante land....but we appear in the area centuries after the iidoor, and yet it wasn't until the British genocide against us that you appear.

Where were you for all the preceding centuries.....on mountain tops and in caves I presume.

original dervish wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:32 pm You've obviously taken it personally.
Tell me where were hj 100 years ago.....apart from a few sub clans......the rest were all in the hills and Guban.

Hj only appear on the scene after the end of the Darwiish and English missionary activity.

You claim you took Dhulbahante land....but we appear in the area centuries after the iidoor, and yet it wasn't until the British genocide against us that you appear.

Where were you for all the preceding centuries.....on mountain tops and in caves I presume.

Everyone can see that you’ve lost the argument.

Argument....what argument?
I'm trying to have civil conversation.....is that really so difficult for you?

Naagta Fiqishini maxaa daba dhigay reerka habar Jeclo ? ,, Aakhlaaq bay yeelata markay nimaanka reerka Huuno Awal arkto sida Khalid Ali ! ,,.mala Europe buu ku wasi jiray

OD has lost her marbles

Literally, qurjiile midgaans only claim to fame, their only source of relevance in Somali history, is being servants and footsoldiers of the mad mullah, and then being servants and footsoldiers of Afweyne.

One of the few accursed landlocked Somali clans with no maritime history, no international trade, no grand historical figures, is trying to compare itself to the clan with the longest coast in Somaliland, the largest territory, a long history of domination in the Frankincense trade...etc etc

I took your land sxb, you can not look a HJ man who took your territory in the eye.

Next to being footsoldiers of the mad mullah, qurjiile's only other claim to fame is marrying Afweyne cripple daughter.

Gaalamadow,

Your only counterpoint is that sampling is too small to make definitive answer on the haplogroups. Gloss over as you wish but the reality, not withstanding STRs, is that your ignoble clan has two, perhaps more, haplogroups which split 50,000 years ago! Is that when the fake ‘Sheikh’ came to northern Somalia?

STRs splits are only few hundred years or thousands, not the 50, 000 years of separation.

Some of you were hunter and gatherers, no doubt. Check the habr Jeclo results.


As for Zeilac, it was long abandoned (continuous bombardment by the Portuguese) before your Idoor uncle, several hundred years later, begged the Yemenis to take over the crumbling fort with their assistance. He dare not venture outside. His own son was slaughtered by an Ciise man, and he couldn’t do squat about it. The countryside belonged to us and will in the future.

Jaamacbuuhoodle wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:04 pm Naagta Fiqishini maxaa daba dhigay reerka habar Jeclo ? ,, Aakhlaaq bay yeelata markay nimaanka reerka Huuno Awal arkto sida Khalid Ali ! ,,.mala Europe buu ku wasi jiray

Ma 350ka buuhoodle akhira loo diray ba daad kaga jirey. Shaydaanka iska naar mag baan ku diyarin.