Muuse biixi should retire as biden

[theyuusuf143]

HJ HY interests are the same. Even this mother fkr khaalid will join us once we punch him on the Face just to wake him up.

[Khalid Ali]

HJ HY interests are the same. Even this mother fkr khaalid will join us once we punch him on the Face just to wake him up.

It is, in fact, a misrepresentation to say that the HY and HJ factions have ever shared a mutual understanding, particularly concerning their political affiliations. In 2003, they overwhelmingly cast their votes in favor of a Gadabuurssi candidate, firmly opposed to one from the Habarjeclo clan. Now, you propose a conflict with the Dhulbahante, yet, according to the HY, such calls for aggression fall upon deaf ears. So what your tellin us is inaccurate.

[theyuusuf143]

HJ HY interests are the same. Even this mother fkr khaalid will join us once we punch him on the Face just to wake him up.

It is, in fact, a misrepresentation to say that the HY and HJ factions have ever shared a mutual understanding, particularly concerning their political affiliations. In 2003, they overwhelmingly cast their votes in favor of a Gadabuurssi candidate, firmly opposed to one from the Habarjeclo clan. Now, you propose a conflict with the Dhulbahante, yet, according to the HY, such calls for aggression fall upon deaf ears. So what your tellin us is inaccurate.

They were right to side with the qudhunbirsay. No hard feelings. In retaliation we convinced other isaaqs to side with us , and we successfully did it , to the point they cried . Now I have no reason to FK with them. I would gladly assist them to the throne. And they won't say nahii to any thing I propose. Why would they. We are not asking them to give us something. We are only asking them to take an extreme measures against the enemies, something you have failed.

[Khalid Ali]

HJ HY interests are the same. Even this mother fkr khaalid will join us once we punch him on the Face just to wake him up.

It is, in fact, a misrepresentation to say that the HY and HJ factions have ever shared a mutual understanding, particularly concerning their political affiliations. In 2003, they overwhelmingly cast their votes in favor of a Gadabuurssi candidate, firmly opposed to one from the Habarjeclo clan. Now, you propose a conflict with the Dhulbahante, yet, according to the HY, such calls for aggression fall upon deaf ears. So what your tellin us is inaccurate.

They were right to side with the qudhunbirsay. No hard feelings. In retaliation we convinced other isaaqs to side with us , and we successfully did it , to the point they cried . Now I have no reason to FK with them. I would gladly assist them to the throne. And they won't say nahii to any thing I propose. Why would they. We are not asking them to give us something. We are only asking them to take an extreme measures against the enemies, something you have failed.

Why are they right to side with the qudhubbirsay while u claim they are ur true brothers by blood why would they side with qudhunbiirsay faqash former faqash against an isaaq snm mujahid how is that even right

U were clapping up and down and dancing when we were shelling laascanood now that we have lost the war and we choose to find peace to rebuild the wounds we are the bad guy

Besides they refused to fight during the. War in laaascanood their politicians ateast said we are not interested what makes u think this has changed

[BigBreak]

guys we have to admit democracy isn't working for Somaliland, it is pitting different Isaaq subclans against each other to the point that whoever loses an election won't accept the result even if it is totally free and fair

my solution would be for Somaliland to adopt a parliamentary system of government whereby both the indirectly selected president and the appointed prime minister both belong to Isaaq but of different subclans, the vice president and the leader of every political party is always Gadabursi and the speaker of the wakiilada and the deputy prime minister both are always Harti

[original dervish]

This is basically a 4.5 system....the same thing they have in Iraq and Lebanon. These political systems have created deadlocks and have failed everywhere. This is the last thing you want to bring into sl.....it will forever entrench tribal politics and is a recipe for disaster.

Winston Churchill once said that: “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried.”

Khalid is right to defend democracy in sl against those whom demand tribal rotations.
Furthermore, sl is dominated by young people who are less tribally minded than their parents and grandparents.

In the south Farmaajo was able to win the support of young people from all tribes. Likewise, if a inspirational visionary political figure arises in sl, there is no reason why he couldn't gain support across clan lines.

In the end the sl people will decide whether or not they want go to war.......at the moment nobody has the appetite for renewed conflict outside of a few hj extremists hell bent on revenge for Goojacaade.

[Khalid Ali]

One man one vote is just fine clans will be made sure to forge alliances which is good since no clan is big enough to. Produce the vote alone I don’t think we should change the system just because. Some people are not happy with it it worked for over two decades 3 party system biggest party leads or we should allow more parties and then the govt should make a joined cabinet of the party’s that won but I don’t mind this current system

[theyuusuf143]

It is, in fact, a misrepresentation to say that the HY and HJ factions have ever shared a mutual understanding, particularly concerning their political affiliations. In 2003, they overwhelmingly cast their votes in favor of a Gadabuurssi candidate, firmly opposed to one from the Habarjeclo clan. Now, you propose a conflict with the Dhulbahante, yet, according to the HY, such calls for aggression fall upon deaf ears. So what your tellin us is inaccurate.

They were right to side with the qudhunbirsay. No hard feelings. In retaliation we convinced other isaaqs to side with us , and we successfully did it , to the point they cried . Now I have no reason to FK with them. I would gladly assist them to the throne. And they won't say nahii to any thing I propose. Why would they. We are not asking them to give us something. We are only asking them to take an extreme measures against the enemies, something you have failed.

Why are they right to side with the qudhubbirsay while u claim they are ur true brothers by blood why would they side with qudhunbiirsay faqash former faqash against an isaaq snm mujahid how is that even right

U were clapping up and down and dancing when we were shelling laascanood now that we have lost the war and we choose to find peace to rebuild the wounds we are the bad guy

Besides they refused to fight during the. War in laaascanood their politicians ateast said we are not interested what makes u think this has changed

They were right because they wanted a create a new chapter for our nation. No HJ regrets why HY supported rayaalee. In fact we appreciated it because rayaale did expanded somaliland territory according to its constitution better than any one before him. By time we came somaliland was too strong and we crushed all rebels with ease. Thanks to rayaale, thanks to habar yoonis. Today the situation have changed. Isaaqs are challenged from multiple sides spearheaded by our own former countrymen. In this kind of situation. I promote a civil war against the non isaaqs.

To unite alle isaaqs against the coalition of Somali enemies. You must be removed first. If this is bothering you. Well that's my fking policy. You have to replaced by HY, I don't care about your feelings. There are no permanent friends mother fkr . Don't be surprised if I want to unseat you. I am just maintaining the Isaaq family business. Don't hate me for that..

[theyuusuf143]

Idiologically anigu Waxan aaminsanahay in la hubeeyo jibriil abokor, muuse ismaaciil Iyo habarjeclo ba oo ay dhulkooda difaacdaan.

[theyuusuf143]

guys we have to admit democracy isn't working for Somaliland, it is pitting different Isaaq subclans against each other to the point that whoever loses an election won't accept the result even if it is totally free and fair

my solution would be for Somaliland to adopt a parliamentary system of government whereby both the indirectly selected president and the appointed prime minister both belong to Isaaq but of different subclans, the vice president and the leader of every political party is always Gadabursi and the speaker of the wakiilada and the deputy prime minister both are always Harti

I agree with you minus the Harti. They removed themselves from the system and we Habarjeclos don't allow them to be included again in any possible way. Those peaple are faqash. We will accept them when Israel accepts the Palestinians. Which is very unlikely. I have no big issue against the qudhunbirsay and ciise waraabe as I believe those are genetically our brothers . We can agree or disagree. But I won't appease them .

[original dervish]

TheYusef........we'll have to wait and see what happens.
From my experience the diaspora folk like you are always more extreme than the locals.....who will have to pay the price if war breaks out.

[theyuusuf143]

TheYusef........we'll have to wait and see what happens.
From my experience the diaspora folk like you are always more extreme than the locals.....who will have to pay the price if war breaks out.

I am just defending my own land you go fk your self.

[Khalid Ali]

They were right to side with the qudhunbirsay. No hard feelings. In retaliation we convinced other isaaqs to side with us , and we successfully did it , to the point they cried . Now I have no reason to FK with them. I would gladly assist them to the throne. And they won't say nahii to any thing I propose. Why would they. We are not asking them to give us something. We are only asking them to take an extreme measures against the enemies, something you have failed.

Why are they right to side with the qudhubbirsay while u claim they are ur true brothers by blood why would they side with qudhunbiirsay faqash former faqash against an isaaq snm mujahid how is that even right

U were clapping up and down and dancing when we were shelling laascanood now that we have lost the war and we choose to find peace to rebuild the wounds we are the bad guy

Besides they refused to fight during the. War in laaascanood their politicians ateast said we are not interested what makes u think this has changed

They were right because they wanted a create a new chapter for our nation. No HJ regrets why HY supported rayaalee. In fact we appreciated it because rayaale did expanded somaliland territory according to its constitution better than any one before him. By time we came somaliland was too strong and we crushed all rebels with ease. Thanks to rayaale, thanks to habar yoonis. Today the situation have changed. Isaaqs are challenged from multiple sides spearheaded by our own former countrymen. In this kind of situation. I promote a civil war against the non isaaqs.

To unite alle isaaqs against the coalition of Somali enemies. You must be removed first. If this is bothering you. Well that's my fking policy. You have to replaced by HY, I don't care about your feelings. There are no permanent friends mother fkr . Don't be surprised if I want to unseat you. I am just maintaining the Isaaq family business. Don't hate me for that..

And I get ur policy u want to use war to unite isaaq
But the part I don’t get is u believe hy is going to lead this war when their elders cadde guuude and oofwareen clearly said when the entire somaliland was fighting the daarood they said that daarood isn’t their enemy. So explain to me how they gonnne fight daarood when they openly said they will not please explain just me that u said u want hy to replace muse biixi. Any other hy or do u want ciiro. Ciiro has no interest to defend somaliland. He has never done such a thing in his entire life so not sure why u want him the only way one can unseat ina bixi is through elections not Dhuuso nugu ma dhuusi kartid. Hadaba siii fiican uga so jawaab before u adress it sii fiican horta usu fikir wuxuub ha iska so qor in

[original dervish]

I think this thread has run it's course.....its finished.
TheYusef has no rational point to make....other than war war war....fk....fk...fk.

It's clear the other iidoors are not going to launch a pointless war because a few stirred up hj in the diaspora think it would be a good idea.

Inna Bixi will almost certainly win the upcoming elections. I expect his regime to quickly conclude a peace treaty with Khaatumo.

The diaspora hj will have to suck it up and move on.

[nextplaya]

ina bixii isnt the product of siilaanyo , siilaanyo at first didnt even want him to run and siilaanyo wanted to run him self remember when they had a fall out i think it was back in 2024 2015 eventually he caved and endorsed him and that made xirsi run away from kulmiye

ina bixii and siilaanyo were both ministers in ina cigaals govermnet they were on equal footing the only time siilanyo was the superior of ina biixi was during the SNM when siilaanyo was the snm chair person and ina bxii was a commander of the SNM . and during the 2010s he was then the chairperson of the party and Siilaanypo president

Politically he was , muuse has always been a good leader in the SNM military wing. But he has never dreamed to be a political leader he was not even interested about politucs until silanyo came. The number one isaaq political leaders have always been cigaal or siilaanyo. That's history

Today we are facing different challenges , as a HJ I believe cirro should be voted to lead us. To unify all isaaqs against the faqash daarood enemies. No isaaq is more capable to take this challenge than the garxajis

The dalai lama is better than the Awalia bum. Nacala waar dalai lama snm ayuu bah dilay

There are so many Garhajis mujahids if dalai lama or the comic resign. It wouldn't even be close. so depressing. a weak dalai lama, a dumb kimis cook who got smoked by faqash, and the comic. faisal. the dalai lama has the best chance against dumb awalia bum who cant handle a little faqash tribe