Does Israel have a right to exist?

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Re: Does Israel have a right to exist?

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[quote="gurey25"][quote]1254 Jerusalem taken by the Khwarizmian Turks, who slaughter most of the city's Christian population
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must be a typo becuase the khawarismians were bieng dismantaled and massacred by Ghengis khan in person in that very year.[/quote]

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Apparently both events are correct, as I find multiple sources. I get the idea the Turks in Jerusalem were survivors from Khwarizam, fleeing the Khan.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08364a.htm

"In 1239 the Emir of Kerak, En-nasir Daud, conquered Jerusalem again and destroyed the Tower of David. But in 1243 he made over the city to the Latins without any stipulations. This led to the final loss of the city. For Essalih Ayyub, Caliph of Egypt (1238-49), then called on the savage Khwarizmian tribes from Mesopotamia to recapture it. They poured over Syria plundering and murdering, and in September, 1244, stormed Jerusalem. In the massacre that followed 7000 Christians perished; Jerusalem was restored once more, and finally, to the Empire of the Caliph. From this time the remaining Latin possessions in Palestine were lost one by one in quick succession. The last town, 'Akka (Saint-Jean d'Acre), fell in 1291. "

Edit: whups ! It was a typo- ten years off. 1244, not 1254.
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Re: Does Israel have a right to exist?

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Ok the even did happen but its not what it seems.
the khawarismian empire was destroyed when they lost to ghengis khan 15 years earlier.
The towns were sacked, millions of civillians massacred, or starved to death irrigation systems destroyed.
Syria and Iraq would face the same fate in the 1250's.

those khwarismians mentioned were not part of the khawarsmian state but armed refugees who survived the mongol holocaust and hired themselves over to the turkish emirs in mesopotamia and syria as mercenaries.
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