Winners and Losers In Somali Politics

[AbdiWahab252]

Winners:

Caade Muse - He was able to hold on to his throne that was under threat from the Wadaads in his region.

Cabdi Qeybdiid - Once again, he has outfoxed his enemies and answered Indocaade's challenge.

Maxamed Dheere - The Come Back Kid went from being a IDP in Hiiraan to the Mayor and Governor of Banadir.

Axmed Diiriye & the Hawiye Odeeyaal - Defused the "Argaxiiso Card" by showing what Afbiijo, Zenawi and Fanax were doing in Xamar was a tribal war against the Hawiye not one against terrorists. The Odeeyal took on the mantle of being concerned traditional, civilian leaders who were fighting a genocidal dictator and a foreign occupation force.

LOSERS

Afbiijo & Fanax - After the defeats of the UIC, the two made major fumbles. The worst was starting a war in Xamar against the Hawiye by attempting forced disarmament. The war was costly to the TFG's reputation, support and image. Axmed Diiriye and Co. defused the TFG strategy of seeing terror everywhere by protraying the war as a tribal one.

Barre Hiiraale - He fled Kismayo in a Bloodless Coup. Helped dismantle the JVA by trying to getting it both ways from the TFG and the Walalaha Galgaduud. In the end, Barre got outfoxed by his enemies and was forced to leave the TFG with very little gained. No JVA, No TFG ministerial post, and his prize, Kismayo is now under threat.

Cisman Caato - His greed caught up with him. He worked against the Isbaheysiga La Dagalanka Argaxiisida and support the UIC. He then began his work as unofficial liason between Afbiijo & the UIC and lead the motion to overthrow Gheedi in the parliment with the goal of making Culusoow, the future PM. After a few months, the UIC banned him from Xamar. Without any standing in the TFG or the UIC, Caato is in a political wilderness.

Indocaade, Cayrow, Aweys - They called for young men to die in jihad yet they failed to join them. All three fled the battles leaving many young souls to die needlessly. Indocaade is rumoured to have helped implode the UIC.

[The_Critic]

They are all LOSERS!!!! when are we going to a REAL Political Parliment that know what the f**k (excuses my french) thier talking about or even doing! WE NEED a Real parliment....

[AbdiWahab252]

Critic,

I agree.

[Meheri Man]

They are all losers except my uncle Ina Libaax San Ka Taabtey no one can mess with taht dude..........

[The_Critic]

Do you agree that we have old fats (sorry) so called war lords telling what to do or trying to run a country! man do they not know its the year 2007 and they passed thier sell out date, no one is taking them seriously. we need a young activist who know what the country needs!

[AbdiWahab252]

Young people don't bring change.

We are used and abused by the older folk.

Are u a Nihilist ?

[The_Critic]

Lol Your right: we are used to the abuse of those old farts lol jokes

But when i say younger people i cahtting about late 20's 30's and early 40's max!

The younger you are (obvisouly passionate about politics) the more you can relate to people, old people are (i think) single minded, thier mind in traped in the 1960's but younger people will know what people want. given the experince

Wats Nihilist?

[Sir-Luggoyo]

AW,

Your analysis sound as if Somali politics is exclusive club for Hawiye and MJ, granted that it may be, we see the results today in the madness that have engulfed the country, therefore, can we safely say/assume that the doom of Somalia is caused by non other than these cursed qabiils?

[AbdiWahab252]

Brother Luugoyo,

Its not qabiils but personalities that have destroyed Somalia.

I don't have control over the actions of my so called qabiil leaders beyond refusing their qaaran requests.

Do u have control over your qabiil leaders ?



The Critic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilist_movement

[eyes-only]

losers = dabadhilif and their supporters who cause embarassment to themselves as they rode in Xabashi tanks and need Xabashi protection day and night and can't even walk down the road.....

Losers = dabadhilif and their supporters who have sold their souls to the devil and their land to the enemy...

Losers = dabadhilid and their supporters who will always be looked down on and cursed for generations to come...

[COSTA]

Sir Lug and A/W since when you guys became friends..

i think since both ICU and USC lost the power

now i see both of you in the loosing side except a/w still have the police commander

[The_Critic]

[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"]AW,

Your analysis sound as if Somali politics is exclusive club for Hawiye and MJ, granted that it may be, we see the results today in the madness that have engulfed the country, therefore, can we safely say/assume that the doom of Somalia is caused by non other than these cursed qabiils?[/quote]

Qabills means nothing to me, its a stopped culture that divided somalia part! i wish it never exsisted! all i know is that i am somalia and i am very proud of that

[Niya]

Winner: Those who strive to find solutions to probelms.


Loser: Blabermouths who benfit from the status quo.

[fagash_killer]

the award of the biggest winner of 2007 will go to mujahiid riyaale the president of somaliland will be the president of somalia he even gets more paid than tony blair let alone if their is a real goverment back at home riyaale will be the richest somali ever.

[Dhaga Bacayl]

With all due respect, I don't consider Qaybdiid a winner. He is working for Yey, one of his biggest political rivalries.


For the time being, Yey must the winner. He is in Vila Somalia after all.