On the Somalia Reconciliation Conference #15

[Salah Al-Din]

On the Somalia Reconciliation Conference #15

Yet another reconciliation conference, the 15th, is called in Mogadishu, Somalia by the same warlords and the same cash-hungry opportunists. These self appointed leaders have become the true enemy of the people of Somalia. They have depleted Somalia of all optimism in the previous 14 “reconciliation” conferences. We urge the world not to allow these criminals to dissolve what’s left of the Somali nation in this charade known as the 15th reconciliation conference.

Yet another reconciliation conference, the 15th, is called in Mogadishu, Somalia by the same warlords and the same cash-hungry opportunists. These self appointed leaders have become the true enemy of the people of Somalia. They have depleted Somalia of all optimism in the previous 14 “reconciliation” conferences. We urge the world not to allow these criminals to dissolve what’s left of the Somali nation in this charade known as the 15th reconciliation conference.

Somaliland Forum proposes the following steps as a rational approach towards the solution of the Somali problem:
1. Be ware of Einstein’s definition of Insanity: “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Each one of the previous 14 conferences-cum-schemes has multiplied the intensity of misery of the Somali population. So what is new this time? The Somaliland Forum will call to the attention of all those concerned:
· Abandon the insanity of borderless witch’s brew of tribal horse trading that sets the stage for further tribal wars, further hate and further revenge. Tribalism has never built a nation.
· Encourage new hopeful leadership and not one of warlords.
· Prevent the kind of external financing that distorts internal dialogue and that attracts the corrupt and murderous tribalists.
2. Somaliland Forum proposes to all concerned to follow the path of true reconciliation and to come to know that the spirit of reconciliation cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within. It is important that all concerned act with courage, vision and hope.
· Accept the elected political institutions of Somaliland as the sole and legitimate representatives of the people of Somaliland. Resist any temptation to destabilize Somaliland by appealing to the divisive nature of tribalism. Attempts to bypass the legitimate authority in Somaliland will cause much chaos, more death and more destruction.
· Accept two nations with well-demarcated borders instead of relying on borderless warring tribes that only attract carnage.
· Accept the colonial borders as the solid and tangible basis of two sisterly nations emerging from the death of the Somali Republic, and accept the sanctity of borders of neighboring countries of Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti. Any dreams of a greater Somali Republic has come and gone.
· Accept this time around to exclude and forbid from the affairs of Somalia the handful of handout-seeking hungry opportunists who may claim to hail from Somaliland. These merchants of death represent no one but their pockets. They have nothing to offer Somalia except deception, corruption and lies.
· Accept democratic elections, one citizen one vote, and representative government as the only hope for rational solution to the Somali problem.

Somaliland Forum strongly supports the government of Somaliland, the Parliament and Guurti of Somaliland and the three political parties for their admonishment of the conference organizers for attempting to interfere with Somaliland affairs. We reiterate that Somaliland’s independence is never open for discussion.

Somaliland Forum calls for the immediate recognition of Somaliland as the first step towards a courageous and honest resolution to the Somali problem. Such a just and righteous step would encourage Somalia to follow Somaliland’s path and to find solutions for its problems. Somaliland Forum hopes Somalia finds peace and can find it in their hearts to forgive one another and to bring an end the cycle of revenge and massacre.

[Ina Baxar]

I fail to understand here. You either want to help and state wateva you got or just shut up!
Ridiculing people not only is xaaran but never got anyone anywhere.

[Salah Al-Din]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

I couldn't decipher exactly what you are ranting about. Now, I'm sure as an adult you can express yourself without letting emotions get the better of you. Please pray do tell us what this article states that you contend?

Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq

[Navy9]

[quote="Ina Baxar"]I fail to understand here. You either want to help and state wateva you got or just shut up!
Ridiculing people not only is xaaran but never got anyone anywhere.[/quote]


Relax! He just copied & pasted the above. If you have objections to what is stated---contact the ex-president of somaliland forum---i think he co-authored it.

[Ina Baxar]

Mr Salah Al diin , we're talking about the SOMALIA peace conference here .
If you genuilely as a Somalilander want to address the issue , tell them how you{ the Somalilanders} managed to resolve your differences in the past , laakiin your own little agenda haa u hoos gelin ummada saxiib !!
Tell me how recognizing Somaliland is gonna solve their problems? Nonsense!
If you are pro secession just send your best wishes and stay out of it , saxiib .

[FAH1223]

[quote="Ina Baxar"] tell them how you{ the Somalilanders} managed to resolve your differences in the past , laakiin your own little agenda haa u hoos gelin ummada saxiib !!
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Co-muhfu sign

[Salah Al-Din]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Ina Baxar, we are talking about Somalia Proper peace conference; however, just like any other country Somaliland has a geopolitical interest. That interest is to see a peaceful Somalia proper neighbor it can deal with. Now, to answer your two questions: a) Why not tell them how to reconcile? and b) What will the recognition of Somaliland solve?

a) The article clearly states [b]“ Somaliland Forum proposes to all concerned to follow the path of true reconciliation and to come to know that the spirit of reconciliation cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within. It is important that all concerned act with courage, vision and hope.”[/b] What more is there needed to be said? Every one and their uncle know for any reconciliation to occur it must come from the parties concerned.

b) Recognizing Somaliland will enable the reconciliation to focus on the warring parties, rather than injecting foreign elements that will only impede their reconciliation. For instance, if parties that have nothing vested in the reconciliation take part, it will only end in a farce. Which is exactly why the article states: Be ware of Einstein’s definition of Insanity:[b] “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Each one of the previous 14 conferences-cum-schemes has multiplied the intensity of misery of the Somali population.” [/b]

Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq

[eyes-only]

what reconciliation?

the Somalileen are not attending
the UIC are not attending
the patriotic former MPs are not attending
the Diaspora coalition not attending
most elders and traditional leaders not attending


so who is the reconciliation for?
Ghedi and Yusuf or
Ghedi and Buubaa?
maybe its for Qeybdiid and Jeele or
Qeybdiid and M/Dheere......

[Ina Baxar]

Salah Al Diin , even if they wanted the TFG cannot LEGALLY recognize Somaliland for they haven't been elected by the people of Somalia .
When you say NO it means NO all the way!!!
NO: we don't wanna talk to the TFG!
NO: we won't ask them to recognize us !

[Salah Al-Din]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Ina Baxar, I think the problem here is you haven’t read the article. Who said anything about TFG recognizing Somaliland? Please pay attention. If we all agree Somalia Proper requires reconciliation; then when that reconciliation conference is held, it would be wise that the first order of business that they should do is unequivocally state that they recognize Somaliland. This would be the only way for their reconciliation to succeed. Unfortunately, the root of Somalia Proper’s problems has been focusing on the reclamation of Somaliland’s sovereignty, when they should have been focused on solving their political impasse. This can be highlighted when Somalia Proper is occupied by Ethiopia and yet all it can muster is Somaliland cannot withdraw from the union.

Now if you read any part of the article you would realize this is talking about changing the status quo (read TFG) and replace it with a scenario where by Somalia Proper will:

• Encourage new hopeful leadership and not one of warlords.
• Prevent the kind of external financing that distorts internal dialogue and that attracts the corrupt and murderous tribalists.
• Accept democratic elections, one citizen one vote, and representative government as the only hope for rational solution to the Somali problem.

Now please before you bark up the wrong tree once again. Please and I plead with you read the article in its entirety.

Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq

[Salah Al-Din]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Ayey-Only,

I understand you object to the reconciliation conference as is. I also object to it as is, and would like to advice you that you should fight for one that gives actual hope to the masses of Somalia Proper and not mere lip service. You should demand real reconciliation that will address the political nature of the conflict(s). However, I would like to inform you, having Somaliland or any entity claiming to be from Somaliland attending in any reconciliation conference that you might agree with will not only sabotage it but will only create further complexities than it resolves.


Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq