Northeastern Treachous Nature.

[Somaliweyn]

Northeastern people keep entertainting themselves with how they fought against the Italians If only fairytales mirrored reality.

They always hide the shameless fact that they were the first Somali group to sell Somali lands to Italians. First they invited the Italians for petty money and weapons to achieve silly clannish ambitious, then when the Italians turned against them and armed other Somali groups in Mudug against them they started to create this myth of ''Northeastern fighting bravely against the Italians for Somali independence''

When Somali groups in Mudug were armed with weapons the Northeastern ´Sultans´ were nowhere to be seen.


Read Italian Colonialism in Somalia by Robert L. Hess.

There he says:

''The Italians might well have become discouraged in their search for colonies in East Africa had not a sudden impetus come from a most unexpected quarter- northeastern Somalia.
On December 12, 1888, a delegation from Yusuf Ali, sultan of Obbia, arrived in Zanzibar and requested the protection of Italy.''

He goes on,

''Filonardi recognized the opportunity for Italy to extend its trade and to obtain a foothold in the supposedly promising Somali area at the spontaneous invitation of one of the local rulers''

''On February 8, Yusuf Ali placed his sultanate under Italian protection in return for an annual subsidy of 1,200 Maria thalers''

''On April 7 an agreement was reached (With Osman Mahmud) that was similar and simplicity to that signed by Yusuf Ali''

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Now contrast this shameless selling of Somali lands to Italians with the brave actions of Abgal subclans.

''At Warsheik, the center of the numerous Abgal tribe, his visit was the first ever made by an Italian ship. Briefly putting ashore at that small town, crew members of the Volta were given hostile reception. Two men lost their lives-the first Italians to suffer death at the hands of the Somali''
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Again in Lafole,

''With government approval, Cecchi prepared for an expedition into the interior.
His caravan consisted of seventy askaris, Commander Ferdinando Maffei of the Staffetta, Commander Franscesco Mongiardini of the Volturno, and fourteen other Italians, for the most part members of the crews of the two ships. That very night their encampment ar Lafolé, some twelve miles inland, was attacked. In the early morning hours, as the caravan once more got under way, it was attacked again. By eight-thirty in the morning of November 26, all but three sailors were dead or dying.''

''First Adowa, then Lafolé; the future of Italian colonialism in the Horn of Africa looked very umpromising at the end of 1896''

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[kadarre]

say Mudulood.

Afterall it was Wacdaan who lost many lives to the italian rifle.

[Somaliweyn]

Isn´t Wacdaan part of Abgaal? Or am I confusing it with Waceysle

Anyways you are right, Mudulood subclans participated like Moobleen, Wacdaan etc.

Moobleen was in the beginning larger than Abgaal but now its a tiny subclan of Mudulood, they incurred the most deaths against the Italians.

[AbdiWahab252]

Somaliweyn,

Did u know the 1st demonstration/uprising against the 1st Somali government occured on the 1st day of independence July 1 and was lead by the Majeerten who wanted to prove Somalis could not rule themselves

[GeneraleQ]

Old habits die hard, the Majeerteens never tire of carrying someone else's boots I guess.

A real man does not need to become a bytch in order to settle old scores.

[Somaliweyn]

I am really fascinated by the Treacherous Nature of Northeastern people.

If we look at the history of most Somali groups, their past and current behaviour we can see a clear pattern which sometimes is disturbed by short period of contradictions.

The Northeastern were the first to sell the lands to Italians for silly clannish reasons. Also in British Jubbaland the British used Northeastern people in Kismanyo as footsoldiers in their fight against Ogaden and occasionaly reer Gedo.

This patter of collaboration with enemies is clearly visible whenever Northeastern people have to gain some clannish goals. When Italia took over the British Jubbaland, they saw the loyalty and usefullnes of Northeastern askaris and started to recruit them en masse after they solved the small uprise by the Northeastern fiefdoms.

It is not suprising that when Somalia gained independence and Italians left Somalia they gave all significant posts to their former collaborators, which resulted in the short period of dominance of these former collaboraters. So the fact that there were patriotic men like Abdirashid and Shermarka was not because Northeastern people were patriotic but just because their clannish goal conveniently was in line with Nationalism etc.

My evidence for this is when they lost power to Siad Barre's regime. They were the first to start a rebellion at a time (77/8) Siad Barre had still the widespread support of all somali groups. Why? For the simple reason that to Northeastern people: their clan comes before the nation and Somalinimo. Let alone Darodnimo

Anno 2007, Northeastern people widely support A-Yusuf's actions, while a tiny minorty among them opposes him.

[Gedo_Boy]

Mudolood iyo Majerteen baa maan ta la kala qaban waayay.........

[Somaliweyn]

Gedo_Boy,

This Treacherous Nature should be closely researched in order to solve Somalia's problems.

I am not saying that all Northeasterners are Traitors, I am just saying that a clear majority happens to place their silly clannish interest before that of the Somali General Interest, and this leads to treacherous actions as we have seen by the selling of Somali lands to Italia, their revolt against a legitimate government in 1977/8, their Ethiopian support in invading Somalia during 80s and their current action of A-Yusuf's Tigre invitation.

As Soon as AY was appointed by the Tigre agents in IGAD to become the TFG President he flew to Addis Abbeba and order 20.000 Tigre troops. Instead of Northeastern people to distance and denounce this Treachery they widely rallyied behind him and supported him unconditionally to bring back the musuqmaasuq of 1960s.

At least Mudulood does not support Geedi, only his immediate jufo.

The story of Mudulood and most clans is different. Their pattern is clearly patriotic with short moments of contradictions.

-Mudulood have over and over fought for ideals which were greater than Mudulood alone like the Mudulood subclans fighting the Italians at the early period of Italian colonization. Their great role played in the formation of SYL, their role played in providing the father of Somali nation, the father of Somali army. This pattern of Patriotism ended with the death of Ismaciil Jimcaale Cosoble.

After 1991, only opportunists have stepped into the scene which have broken with the honourable tradition of Mudulood.

15 years of anarchy has produced traitors, opportunists and political prostitutes like Geedi, Maxamed Dheere, Muse Suudi, Ali Mahdi etc.

These individuals have the backing of their jufo and small minority within Mudulood. The majority is dissillusioned with Somalia and is just living life.


Ofcourse, for other Somali groups one can only clearly detect their pattern and short periods of contradictions.

[Ican]

The SYL which was mostly Majerteen and Darood, opposed the italians and they were pan Somalia at a time when Somalia was divided, so I don't understand your logic here sxb.

Here's an excerpt from Back to the Horn: Italian Administration and Somalia's Troubled Independence

"SYL was strongly anti-Italian and it
accused AFTS of not applying the trusteeship agreement. It also refused application
of the Italian legal code until it had been seriously modified."

The Majerteen sultantes of Yusuf Ali and Osman were rivals and spent more time fighting each other than other Somali's. so when Sultan Yusuf Ali Kenadid called on the Italians( as did the Sayid), it was in Sultan Cisman Mahmoud interest to also ask for Italian support. It was part of the political game at the time, nothing more and each was protecting their business interests.


And lastly, why don't you just come out and say Majerteen instead of being a duplicitous little girl, SSDF was started by Abdullahi Yusuf and he was Majerteen but he was not "north eastern", he's from mudugh which central Somalia. Learn some Geography.

[Somaliweyn]

SYL was composed of every clan, with Southern clans been the majority, clans like Hawiye, Marehan, Dir, Ogaden etc. And some Northeastern people.

So the selling of Somali lands is part of the political game?

As I said: Northeastern people will place their silly clannish ambitions before that of the General Interest and Security of Somalis.

No other clan has proved to be this consistent in working against the interest of Somalia then Northeastern people.

[Ican]

Sxb every single clan in Somalia has worked with a foreign government to achieve their goals from the Mad mullah to the Isaaqs with the british. And it was actually southerners who wanted the italians to control Somalia, not "north eastern".

The SYL was mostly darood and mostly Majerteen but their goal was a united Somalia and welcomed every clan in the party from Isaaq to Rahanwein. SYL support came from northeastern, but it expanded to include everybody.

[Unclebin-]

OF the 13 SYL founders 4 were MJ. 1 was jareer 1 was cad cad and the rest amongst the somaalis.

At these motherfukkas talking about the "northeasterners"

[Somaliweyn]

Northeastern Tigre Lovers.



Your threacherous nature is known by all Somalis.

[paidmonk]

Without these "Northeasterners" there would be NO Somalia.

[Somaliweyn]

You think?

A fact is: Without Northeastern treachery, Italians might not set a foot in Somalia and colonize it.

''The Italians might well have become discouraged in their search for colonies in East Africa had not a sudden impetus come from a most unexpected quarter- northeastern Somalia.''

Selling Somalia to foreigners is not something new among Northeastern. It runs in the family I guess.