Kismaayo issue: Survival for some, imperialism for others.

[JaMaaL-23]

"Mulac waa ka naf dhalaana waa ka ciyaar"

As I see it, this Kismaayo issue is survival for MR (there is no where else to go) and imperialism for Harti (we have Puntland and and Mogadishu on lock n still want some more on top of that)

this is why MR have to fight to the death, for if they loose Kismaayo god knows what's to follow. Even the Gaaljecel are sharpening their Marchettes.

This shit is very serious, as a noble Daarood tribe is facing extinction on the same scale of the infamous "Lafo Tanade" unless Allah opens a way out of this predicament for them.

I find the whole Kismaayo saga as regrettable and absolutely unnecessary.

No one is against MR living peacefully in the Jubbas together with their bratren the Absame and the Harti.

How can this impending tragidy be avoided, I winder?

[BABYGIRL123]

kismayo should be shared any other suggestion is out the window.

[Luq_Ganane]

Gacal, you crack me up. You remind me of this Duke guy I used to forum with on somaliaonline. Saaxib, please cut all the shananegins and be real. For one I used to always think that Majerten were just being greedy with Kismayo considering they have puntland, but I realized thats not the case. Their best and most developed city (Bossaso) is an absolute inferno, with horrible climate. Bossaso's best attribute is its dekad, however other then that, however in the areas of aggriculture, etc. the whole Bari region is lacking. Research shows that Bari has potential oil deposits but its yet to be seen.

However with Kismayo and the Jubba region, we have one of the only places in Africa that has a exremely fertile bed, that flows into a river, and a dekad. Thats very rare. In addition Kismayo is in a much more strategic location then Bossaso as it is at the junction of Africa, Asia and the middle east. Its not being 'greedy' as you say, but Majerten want and need Kismayo very badly in their own right. As for this whole 'We have Xamar on lock' thing really, what kind of kool-aid do they have you guys on? Forget Xamar, you guys can't even control Howlwadag, and Hurwa in Xamar, let alone the whole city. On top of that, as we speak theres thousands of Sade soldiers in Bardhere (I an bring you the article, but I'm too lazy) in Barre's Muri military camp in Bardhere, just waiting for the word. In times of war saaxib, Marehan rally together. I'd suggest MJ too think long and hard, as Marehan patience with them is running thin. There won't be anymore release of prisoners this time, as things could get ugly.

[sadeboi]

This is the next excuse for the third defeat to come....all they will say when they lose the third time is..."we didn't even use our full force unlike the Sade...we didn't really care for kismayo it was just out of greed to capture it" Jamaal you full well know that the force fighting you in kismayo are the reer mudug marexaans who migrated there, the reer-gedo have not even participated in this war yet, but all the kablalax militia and gaaljecel have combined to fight only the SADEs from cabudwaaq, and its not even all the SADEs from cabudwaaq since the SADE bari are very numerous still up there today.

This was a pathetic excuse and utter calaacal.

Kismayo will be make or break for the TFG, and the end of the TFG means the withdrawal of xabasho and then the invasion of puntland by the hawiyes. Son this is survival for you, 10 years ago we didn't have kismayo, beerxani or jubooyinka and look at us today, and what have harti gained?? Nothing, all they have is the arizona like land called punt, desert hellhole.

[Luq_Ganane]

Sadeboi, before the Marehan in Gedo even finished their abalbul for Kismayo, the Sade in Kismayo already finished the job. . Right now the Gurmad that was going to come originially are stationed outside Bardhere, staying ready. If they join this time it will be a slaughterhouse. .

[Gedo_Boy]

Jamaal,

If Marexaan were going to be extinct it would have happened in '91 when virtually all of Somalia was united against them. Ironically, it was Marexaan in '91 that not only fended for themselves, but stopped the extinction of the Southern Hartis.

The Harti/TFG have sealed their own fate by alienating their only potential ally in the South, the MR; they thought it was time to dislodge the Marexaan from Kismayo b/c of the temporary power surge of the TFG; it was dirty politics and a big gamble that didn't materialize. Nobody in the South sees eye to eye w/ the Northern Hartis desire to take Kismayo.

The South is MR's backyard and they are fully grounded in the South, yes it is true they have more at stake. But it also means they have a simpler scenario.

Nowadays, Xamar doesn't look good, and you've broken your bridges with the Southern Darood. SO the question is what's in the plans for you?

[Luq_Ganane]

Nowadays, Xamar doesn't look good, and you've broken your bridges with the Southern Darood. SO the question is what's in the plans for you?[/quote]

Back to the desert.

[madiina]

Leave kismayu alone then

[Mad_Dog206]

[quote="sadeboi"]:lol:


This is the next excuse for the third defeat to come....[/quote]




SOmalia=south. Puntland has shown to be irrelevent in the last 16 years and especially in Carta. Abdullahi Yusuf is one man, Puntland will be going back to its insignificance from where the real power power that will rule Somalia will lie.

Teeda kale ku laha survival. Mareexaan singlehandedly control 2x more land then they controlled in 1991 and no one can say shit. Infact Kismaayo will secure 1000 Km from Luuq to afka Indian Ocean where the crux of Somali fight for resources has been won by Mareexaan. Habar Gidir tried to follow us in Shabelle Hoose but they were not politically advanced and never was able to convince Somalis of their position there.

Kismaayo is the second largest Somali city and it is counted as a Sade city, while Hawiye sub-clans fight for control of two blocks and Majeerteen see business from a small desert by human trafficking.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Puntland is QASIN and thats the only reason you want the Fertile Jubboyinka

[Camel_herder]

[quote="JaMaaL-23"] This shit is very serious, as a noble Daarood tribe is facing extinction on the same scale of the infamous "Lafo Tanade" unless Allah opens a way out of this predicament for them. [/quote]



?????

And People Wonder why I hate MJ and curse them alot???

Because they never miss a chance to disrespect "Tanade Darood". All the while they claim to be Darood?? , earth to mars, am i missing something???

1993, Aideed almost wipes out Cumar Maxamoud in "Israac" Section of Gaalkacyo and village's near Jiriban!

Why don't you concentrate on those who actually focked you up?? While you throwing your dirty mouth at someone who doesn't even know you exist, let alone waste their time at you.

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I have better things to do then to engage in silly Qabiil bashing.


P.S. Ladiid & Lafo Tanade was a turning point in the History of North Eastern Somalia, where the Tanade Sultanate Rulled with unpresidented power and might.
They rulled for many centuries, and it took the entire Darood + Hawiye + Isaaq + Others to overthrow that Sultanate.

Majority of Tanade live's in Ethiopia, they are called "Korshe", in an ever green, more fertile, more rivers, more blessed then the desert regions of Bari & Nugaal that they inhabited before, more precisely the area known as "Balliyo-Korshe"!
http://www.golkhatumo.com/Lafo.htm

[The Magnificent]

What the fuuck is going on in here? Shouldn't Daarood unite TODAY, against the ignorant Hawiye, and the low-life Iidoor? Why can't Sade, Harti & even Ogaden settle peacefully with eachother in Kismaanyo. Yes, i use to say Kismaanyo is for Harti, but when i realize that Daarood is crumbling up, and killing eachother, i though about bring another alternative to the table. Gacal Jecel, Dir, and the rest of the Hawiye confedercy, are waiting for the right moment people. They want to see Sade & Harti kill eachother off, than they will come down into Kismaanyo, and kill off the rest of the Daarood subclan known as "Ogaden".

Do you really think that Hawiye, a clan that hates Daarood since the beginning of time, will let Daarood rule them? MSB, a well known Daarood warrior was ousted by Iidoor & Hawiye with the help of some greedy, low-life Ogadens. I mean, think about it...WHY CAN'T DAAROOD UNITE AND CREATE THEIR OWN STATE? Lets add PUNTLAND & JUBALAND together and create a all Sade & Harti state called DaaroodLand. Walle Hawiye will not even think twice about attacking Gedo, Jubada Hoose, Bari, Nugaal, Sool, Cayn, Sanaag, Mudug, and all the rest of the Daarood inhabite Gobols.

Guul Daarood !!!!

[Phd in naago kudis]

magnificent

kismayoo belongs to the marexaan as they you won it when they karbashed the majeerten

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Kismaayo is mines, i DARE any KablaLAAXS to come and take it

[Luq_Ganane]

[quote="The Magnificent"]What the fuuck is going on in here? Shouldn't Daarood unite TODAY, against the ignorant Hawiye, and the low-life Iidoor? Why can't Sade, Harti & even Ogaden settle peacefully with eachother in Kismaanyo. Yes, i use to say Kismaanyo is for Harti, but when i realize that Daarood is crumbling up, and killing eachother, i though about bring another alternative to the table. Gacal Jecel, Dir, and the rest of the Hawiye confedercy, are waiting for the right moment people. They want to see Sade & Harti kill eachother off, than they will come down into Kismaanyo, and kill off the rest of the Daarood subclan known as "Ogaden".

Do you really think that Hawiye, a clan that hates Daarood since the beginning of time, will let Daarood rule them? MSB, a well known Daarood warrior was ousted by Iidoor & Hawiye with the help of some greedy, low-life Ogadens. I mean, think about it...WHY CAN'T DAAROOD UNITE AND CREATE THEIR OWN STATE? Lets add PUNTLAND & JUBALAND together and create a all Sade & Harti state called DaaroodLand. Walle Hawiye will not even think twice about attacking Gedo, Jubada Hoose, Bari, Nugaal, Sool, Cayn, Sanaag, Mudug, and all the rest of the Daarood inhabite Gobols.

Guul Daarood !!!! [/quote]


Magnificient. While your a voice of reason in the MJ camp, unfortuantely most MJ's do not share your views, especially the ones with real say like A/Yusuf, Cadde Musse and others. Unfortunate but true. But look on the flipside. Hawiye is even more divided then us. HG and Abgal will never forgive each other, so I don't see another united Hawiye front a la '91 coming towards Darood.