Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
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Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Saudi Arabia months ago made a pitch to enlist other Persian Gulf countries to take a direct role in supporting Sunni tribal groups in Iraq, said one former American ambassador with close ties to officials in the Middle East. The former ambassador, Edward W. Gnehm, who has served in Kuwait and Jordan, said that during a recent trip to the region he was told that Saudi Arabia had pressed other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council — which includes Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain and Oman — to give financial support to Sunnis in Iraq. The Saudis made this effort last December, Mr. Gnehm said
A month before that, King Abdullah effectively torpedoed a high-profile meeting between Israelis and Palestinians, planned by Ms. Rice, by brokering a power-sharing agreement between the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, and the militant Islamist group Hamas that did not require Hamas to recognize Israel. While that agreement eventually fell apart, the Bush administration, on both occasions, was caught off guard and became infuriated.
But Saudi officials have not been too happy with President Bush, either, and the plummeting of America’s image in the Muslim world has led King Abdullah to strive to set a more independent course.
The administration “thinks the Saudis are no longer behaving the role of the good vassal,” said Steve Clemons, senior fellow and director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation. The Saudis, in turn, “see weakness, they see a void, and they’re going to fill the void and call their own shots.”
Source: Nytimes
A month before that, King Abdullah effectively torpedoed a high-profile meeting between Israelis and Palestinians, planned by Ms. Rice, by brokering a power-sharing agreement between the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, and the militant Islamist group Hamas that did not require Hamas to recognize Israel. While that agreement eventually fell apart, the Bush administration, on both occasions, was caught off guard and became infuriated.
But Saudi officials have not been too happy with President Bush, either, and the plummeting of America’s image in the Muslim world has led King Abdullah to strive to set a more independent course.
The administration “thinks the Saudis are no longer behaving the role of the good vassal,” said Steve Clemons, senior fellow and director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation. The Saudis, in turn, “see weakness, they see a void, and they’re going to fill the void and call their own shots.”
Source: Nytimes
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Did the United States anticipate that marganilizing Sunnis in Iraq will sustain their economic and political relationship with the oil rich, Sunni Arab states? 
These Shiites are historically cursed to be a ruled subject whether the whole world supports them or not.
These Shiites are historically cursed to be a ruled subject whether the whole world supports them or not.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Someone's quick to forget about the Shia Fatimid Caliphate in Egypt in the early Medieval period. 
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Whether these fat assed Araps and their Yankee masters like it or not, Iran is going to emerge as the superpower of the region in sha'allah.
General Madmadoobe,
The commander of the faithful.
General Madmadoobe,
The commander of the faithful.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
The son of the concubine and mother of the Congo Somali, contrary to what you see in the news, America is not opposed to Iran's foreign policies. In fact, it implicitly supports Iran to the effect of balancing the region or even when it comes to regional war of Sunni vs Shia. Consider Iran becoming a nuclear power state in the region and Iraq being a Shiia led state, the whole Middle East is set on radical fringes opposed to one another's survival, with Isreael in the mix.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
There will be more courageous people on the scene than basal eating, casiir driniking, buste wearing wearing fat assed Arabs. Big ups to Persia.
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Madmadoobe
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Madmadoobe, when our ancestors used to travel to the Arab world in the early 18, 19th and 20th century, they had never experienced discrimination, because they have always been considered to be Arabs. However, as the civil war began raging and many of the sons of the concubine from the south started coming to places like Saudi, the Saudis were stunted of the complete transformation of the positive images and looks they had about Somalia's people. All the good personalities, respect and business acuity known for Somalis turned into nefarious acts, theft, and doing jobs that the pure Arab Darood never forced Himself to had rendered them.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Are you on drugs?
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Silly question?
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
Not at all. Based solely on your previous post, you seemed to have taken something in.
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I give you detailed description of the cause of your Arab hatred. We should have punished those Harti smugglers on the coast of the Indian Ocean and Red Sea for illegally transporting the cousins of Paidmonk in to the Gulf states.
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And how could you be so sure that the smuggling of paidmonk's causins into the Gulf states is the causation of my Arab hatred? Get of the crack ASAP waryaa basashaada wasse.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
[quote="Gladiator="]Madmadoobe, when our ancestors used to travel to the Arab world in the early 18, 19th and 20th century, they had never experienced discrimination, because they have always been considered to be Arabs. However, as the civil war began raging and many of the sons of the concubine from the south started coming to places like Saudi, the Saudis were stunted of the complete transformation of the positive images and looks they had about Somalia's people. All the good personalities, respect and business acuity known for Somalis turned into nefarious acts, theft, and doing jobs that the pure Arab Darood never forced Himself to had rendered them.[/quote]
^^^
who were your ancestors? mr dark skin, darod, he was expelled from yemen. why? in saudia, he will be treated like a slave in that period.
saudia arabia or iran? do the saudias represent all sunnis? they don't represent me, they representing wahabiya jihadi even sunni iraks started to fight against, cause they are not sunni and not their interests.
^^^
who were your ancestors? mr dark skin, darod, he was expelled from yemen. why? in saudia, he will be treated like a slave in that period.
saudia arabia or iran? do the saudias represent all sunnis? they don't represent me, they representing wahabiya jihadi even sunni iraks started to fight against, cause they are not sunni and not their interests.
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Re: Saudi Arabia and United States on a Collusion Course over Ir
14 replies later and Gladiator is still an idiot. Some things will never change.
Just because Keenadiid traveled to Oman doesn't mean all Somalis did that shit like a summer vacation.
Just because Keenadiid traveled to Oman doesn't mean all Somalis did that shit like a summer vacation.
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