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Lets look at the actors involved in both conflicts.......
Ethoipia = America... both countries have lunched unprovoked attacks.
Hawyie = Sunnies ... Main fighters against the occupation.
Darods = Shites ......Aiding the occupation for shear self interest.
Isaaqs = kurdish.....After being persecuted by thire former dictator have plans for a break away ethnic based country.

My understanding is that the only difference is that the iraqi conflict is alot ahead of our own conflict, which gives us a chance to learn from thire mistakes.
So what can we learn from the iraqi conflict?

sorry i forgot Syied Barre = saddam hussain(aun)....??????????????

No conspiracy just plain facts.

, aah Somalinet.

Interesting analogies.

You could say am with the same people in both conflicts ..........

Actually it is not interesting..It is just a plain hatred for Some clans...You may cheerlead or you may be offended..as simple as that...

[quote="kambuli"]Actually it is not interesting..It is just a plain hatred for Some clans...You may cheerlead or you may be offended..as simple as that...[/quote]

You must have misintepreted something. I just showed the simmilierties between the two conflicts, and you did not like the facts but thats not my fault. I did not coriagraph them to make them look the same....
some people and there qabil minds it blinds them,to the stage where they are questioning the actions of thire own hands as the work off another tribe.

kambuli, in this analogy, I support Sunnis. Who do you support?

<------------------kurdish unionist

Best case scenorio is for the sunnies to win and all else to fail......Relegion dictates this conclusion

I have never compared the two, but as you said, it really is a mirror image of Iraq. I hope the Kurds and Isaaqs get their wishes, the Hawiye and the Sunnis come out triumphant, and I also hope the Darod and the Shiites get humiliated

Not many replays from my Darod brothers, come on give us your opinions on having the same goals as the shites.

I agree with all this.. but i think the Isaaqs are well ahead of the Kurdish... we have already formed our own country, while their little region is still controlled by the Iraaqi gov....

fockin bastard

some Daaroods are Sunnis in this Analogy

I have begun to entertain the notion that civil war is the normal state of Somali national affairs.

Consider:

The dia-collecting groups have formed the local governments since time immemorial. Whoever controlled the coastal trading posts, the clans have always controlled the interior in a collective armed dance, always maneuvering for advantaqe.

Where any group such as the Ajuuraan or the Majerteen Sultanates came to control any large area, they did so as a single group under a single family or individual. Political alliances featuring actual shared control are not a feature of traditional Somali governance.

I think it is easier to see the brief period of a unity government after independence and the subsequent Barre regime as aberrations in Somali governance, than to see the period of no central government since 1991 as the abberration.

The example of Iraq is probably most effective in underlining the idea that the mainstream, Sufi and Wahaabbi divisions of the Sunni branch of Islam are additionally divisive, so that Islam cannot unite the already defensive clans.

Depressing, no?