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Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritr
Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritrea
Somali Islamists and opposition leaders meeting in Eritrea have joined forces in a new alliance to overthrow Somalia's transitional government.
More than 300 delegates, including Islamist leader Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, have approved a constitution and central committee.
A spokesman said the new movement will be called The Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia.
It aims to remove the Ethiopian-backed government by negotiation - or war.
"We have two-track options - first is the liberation of Somalia through military struggle, the second is through diplomatic efforts," said Zakariya Mahamud Abdi, spokesman for the Somali Congress.
The Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia (ALS) will have a 191-member central committee that will function as a parliament with a 10-person executive committee to be elected shortly.
The spokesman had a stark warning for Ethiopian troops, heavily deployed in Somalia since they rescued embattled transitional government forces last year.
"We warn Ethiopia to withdraw immediately. It is now or never and in a few weeks they will not have a route to withdraw," Abdi said.
Key role
Reporters at the Somali Congress for Liberation and Reconstitution in Asmara say the alliance is unlikely to be Islamist-led as the opposition is hoping to draw on the broad political support and fundraising opportunities of the Somali diaspora.
But observers say it will be interesting to see if a position is offered to the Islamist leader Sheikh Aweys, an architect of the Mogadishu insurgency, who has been in hiding since the Islamic Courts' Union was routed by the Ethiopian army last year.
In an interview with the Eritrean media, Sheikh Aweys, has dismissed US allegations that he is a "terrorist".
"I am a Somali nationalist fighting for a free and united Somalia," he said "and this is considered by the US administration to be terrorism."
Since their defeat by Ethiopia's vastly superior military force in December last year, the Islamists have resorted to guerrilla tactics, launching daily hit-and-run attacks on targets, mainly in Mogadishu.
The UN refugee agency says some 400,000 people have fled the fighting in the capital in the past four months as a result of the surge in violence.
The Islamists, along with other opposition leaders like Hussain Aideed, boycotted a reconciliation meeting sponsored by the transitional government last month.
Instead they chose to organise a meeting hosted by Ethiopia's arch-enemy, Eritrea, with the declared aim of "liberating Somalia from Ethiopia".
US warnings
Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi has said his troops will withdraw once African Union peacekeepers arrive in Mogadishu.
But pledges by AU nations to contribute troops to the planned 7,000-strong peacekeeping mission have yet to be honoured and so far only 1,600 Ugandan soldiers have been deployed.
Just days ago, a senior US official said the presence of Sheikh Aweys in Asmara was further evidence Eritrea gave sanctuary to terrorists.
The gathering of further intelligence could lead to Eritrea being named as a state sponsor of terrorism - followed by sanctions, the official warned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6990928.stm
Somali Islamists and opposition leaders meeting in Eritrea have joined forces in a new alliance to overthrow Somalia's transitional government.
More than 300 delegates, including Islamist leader Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, have approved a constitution and central committee.
A spokesman said the new movement will be called The Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia.
It aims to remove the Ethiopian-backed government by negotiation - or war.
"We have two-track options - first is the liberation of Somalia through military struggle, the second is through diplomatic efforts," said Zakariya Mahamud Abdi, spokesman for the Somali Congress.
The Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia (ALS) will have a 191-member central committee that will function as a parliament with a 10-person executive committee to be elected shortly.
The spokesman had a stark warning for Ethiopian troops, heavily deployed in Somalia since they rescued embattled transitional government forces last year.
"We warn Ethiopia to withdraw immediately. It is now or never and in a few weeks they will not have a route to withdraw," Abdi said.
Key role
Reporters at the Somali Congress for Liberation and Reconstitution in Asmara say the alliance is unlikely to be Islamist-led as the opposition is hoping to draw on the broad political support and fundraising opportunities of the Somali diaspora.
But observers say it will be interesting to see if a position is offered to the Islamist leader Sheikh Aweys, an architect of the Mogadishu insurgency, who has been in hiding since the Islamic Courts' Union was routed by the Ethiopian army last year.
In an interview with the Eritrean media, Sheikh Aweys, has dismissed US allegations that he is a "terrorist".
"I am a Somali nationalist fighting for a free and united Somalia," he said "and this is considered by the US administration to be terrorism."
Since their defeat by Ethiopia's vastly superior military force in December last year, the Islamists have resorted to guerrilla tactics, launching daily hit-and-run attacks on targets, mainly in Mogadishu.
The UN refugee agency says some 400,000 people have fled the fighting in the capital in the past four months as a result of the surge in violence.
The Islamists, along with other opposition leaders like Hussain Aideed, boycotted a reconciliation meeting sponsored by the transitional government last month.
Instead they chose to organise a meeting hosted by Ethiopia's arch-enemy, Eritrea, with the declared aim of "liberating Somalia from Ethiopia".
US warnings
Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi has said his troops will withdraw once African Union peacekeepers arrive in Mogadishu.
But pledges by AU nations to contribute troops to the planned 7,000-strong peacekeeping mission have yet to be honoured and so far only 1,600 Ugandan soldiers have been deployed.
Just days ago, a senior US official said the presence of Sheikh Aweys in Asmara was further evidence Eritrea gave sanctuary to terrorists.
The gathering of further intelligence could lead to Eritrea being named as a state sponsor of terrorism - followed by sanctions, the official warned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6990928.stm
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Re: Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritr
[quote]"We warn Ethiopia to withdraw immediately. It is now or never and in a few weeks they will not have a route to withdraw," Abdi said. [/quote]
Indhacadd-ism talk
Subxanallah may Allah give the Guul!
Indhacadd-ism talk



Subxanallah may Allah give the Guul!
Re: Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritr
Salaama calaikum
I know and we all know for a fact that those that say "we want ethiopia out by militari means" will infact never face danger themselves noh will those that they love.
The effects of war will never harm them either ;they have available to them all the defences that only peace can bring at their disposal eg food, goods ,clean water and in case they fall ill, services like health care is provided to them .
All these they get not because, as nature orders, through exchange but by their treat to harm and their ability to confused our weak brothers and sisters by making them insecure and then preying on their insecurities.
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.
AND TRUST IN YOUR GOVERNMENT-give then the authority so they can be held responsible and let us confine our protests only to wise words of objection .Beyond this point you will then be the CRIMINAL.
Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.
I know and we all know for a fact that those that say "we want ethiopia out by militari means" will infact never face danger themselves noh will those that they love.
The effects of war will never harm them either ;they have available to them all the defences that only peace can bring at their disposal eg food, goods ,clean water and in case they fall ill, services like health care is provided to them .
All these they get not because, as nature orders, through exchange but by their treat to harm and their ability to confused our weak brothers and sisters by making them insecure and then preying on their insecurities.
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.
AND TRUST IN YOUR GOVERNMENT-give then the authority so they can be held responsible and let us confine our protests only to wise words of objection .Beyond this point you will then be the CRIMINAL.
Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.
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[quote="jamalllll"]Salaama calaikum
I know and we all know for a fact that those that say "we want ethiopia out by militari means" will infact never face danger themselves noh will those that they love.
The effects of war will never harm them either ;they have available to them all the defences that only peace can bring at their disposal eg food, goods ,clean water and in case they fall ill, services like health care is provided to them .
All these they get not because, as nature orders, through exchange but by their treat to harm and their ability to confused our weak brothers and sisters by making them insecure and then preying on their insecurities.
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.
AND TRUST IN YOUR GOVERNMENT-give then the authority so they can be held responsible and let us confine our protests only to wise words of objection .Beyond this point you will then be the CRIMINAL.
Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.[/quote]
Is funny how many times you mention trust in God yet you legitimize the corrupt ethiopian occuption
... Figthing to free your lands does not make you a robber, killer or someone who hates peace..Trust me on this one bro, you dont need to lecture anyone who supports the Jihad in somalia especially those who might be fighthing right now, they know much more about putting their trust in Allah than we will ever know..You should lecture yourself and all those who support a kufar occuption knowning that this government is made up of warlords and killers..
I know and we all know for a fact that those that say "we want ethiopia out by militari means" will infact never face danger themselves noh will those that they love.
The effects of war will never harm them either ;they have available to them all the defences that only peace can bring at their disposal eg food, goods ,clean water and in case they fall ill, services like health care is provided to them .
All these they get not because, as nature orders, through exchange but by their treat to harm and their ability to confused our weak brothers and sisters by making them insecure and then preying on their insecurities.
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.
AND TRUST IN YOUR GOVERNMENT-give then the authority so they can be held responsible and let us confine our protests only to wise words of objection .Beyond this point you will then be the CRIMINAL.
Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.[/quote]
Is funny how many times you mention trust in God yet you legitimize the corrupt ethiopian occuption

Re: Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritr
[quote="jamalllll"]Salaama calaikum
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.
AND TRUST IN YOUR GOVERNMENT-give then the authority so they can be held responsible and let us confine our protests only to wise words of objection .Beyond this point you will then be the CRIMINAL.
Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.[/quote]
And you are expecting us to buy your crap...Someone with iimaam would never accept what you say..You are telling to submit to gaalo and gaalo raac ...no way
Order will never be achieved without IIMAAN. IIMAAN is the trust in GOD subxaanahu watacala, in GODS ability to provide and give even more than food eg life .
Just like you have not earned by any means whatsoever the precious gift of life that you enjoy today so must you ONLY seek that which sustains your life by GOD'S prescibed ways.
BROTHERS, especially those with misleading nicknames like somaliweyn, seek to advance your lives and sustain them BUT ONLY AFTER JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS have been observed and REMMEMBER IIIMAAN .
MY WORD OF ADVICE TO YOU SOMALIWEYN AND THOSE LIKE YOU IS ;
TRUST IN GOD-have iiimaan that is a major part of our faith.
TRUST IN THE ABILITY THAT GOD GAVE YOU--you can live by your efforts ,you dont have to steal,rob or kill.


Do not kill ,wether by direct action or indirect does not matter.[/quote]
And you are expecting us to buy your crap...Someone with iimaam would never accept what you say..You are telling to submit to gaalo and gaalo raac ...no way
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[quote]"I am a Somali nationalist fighting for a free and united Somalia," [/quote]
Where's arab-man?
His hero calls himself a "SOMALI NATIONLIST".
Where's arab-man?
His hero calls himself a "SOMALI NATIONLIST".

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[His hero calls himself a "SOMALI NATIONLIST".
]
Get to the point.

Get to the point.
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Sheekh Shariif is too inexperienced
Re: Somali Islamists & Opposition Form Massive Alliance In Eritr
No one is born with experience. Inexperienced is the one who doesn't learn from his mistakes or repeats same mistakes.
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Ramadan kariim to all
To the alchemist
I am afraid but you still don't get it same goes to adanboy as well.
May be i should start by definations and lead you all the way to the point that iam trying to make. Although in all honesty it should have been your job to understand what was said before coming up with a counter arguement.
Lets start with trust in GOD -the alchemists objection
OR iimaan which is the same as trust in GOD -which was adanboys objection
According to the dictionary trust means --reliance on the integrity, strength, ability, surety
So trust in GOD OR IIMAAN should then mean to rely wholly in GOD. In pillars of iimaan we are asked to believe that ALL WETHER GOOD OR BAD comes from GOD.In short you dont have to fight bad by bad ,doing good should suffice.
As for jihad bro jihad first starts with your base self. If your good self cannot overcome your base self how can you fight evil from the outside.
Anyway ,this was all besides my point ,for my point is CLEAR it is from your opposition that most, if not all the evils in somalia is a direct result of. So quit. You be the good and as for harm coming to you from the outside speak out against it but do not contribute to it. How is anyone to entangle the good from the bad if they could not be disguished first.
Are you people blind or just evaders .Is the lure of the unearned so attractive that you cannot see past your lust for power. Is controling the self so hard that it leaves you no choise but to control the others.
Build yourselfs upright before seeking to control everybody else.
People don't rule laws rule and those that decide those laws justly are chosen and who ever wins must then be allowed to govern for the specified period.
IN SHORT IF YOU WONT SETTLE TODAY ,REGARDLESS OF THE GROUNDS, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WILL NEVER HOLD.
THE INSTITUTION OF GOVERNMENT IS WHAT IS AT RISK NOT THE CURRENT LEADERS SO CHOOSE AND CHOOSE WISELY FOR YOUR TOMMORROW IS LITERALLY IN YOUR HANDS AND YOUR PETTINESS IS ROBBING YOU OF IT.
To the alchemist
I am afraid but you still don't get it same goes to adanboy as well.
May be i should start by definations and lead you all the way to the point that iam trying to make. Although in all honesty it should have been your job to understand what was said before coming up with a counter arguement.
Lets start with trust in GOD -the alchemists objection
OR iimaan which is the same as trust in GOD -which was adanboys objection
According to the dictionary trust means --reliance on the integrity, strength, ability, surety
So trust in GOD OR IIMAAN should then mean to rely wholly in GOD. In pillars of iimaan we are asked to believe that ALL WETHER GOOD OR BAD comes from GOD.In short you dont have to fight bad by bad ,doing good should suffice.
As for jihad bro jihad first starts with your base self. If your good self cannot overcome your base self how can you fight evil from the outside.
Anyway ,this was all besides my point ,for my point is CLEAR it is from your opposition that most, if not all the evils in somalia is a direct result of. So quit. You be the good and as for harm coming to you from the outside speak out against it but do not contribute to it. How is anyone to entangle the good from the bad if they could not be disguished first.
Are you people blind or just evaders .Is the lure of the unearned so attractive that you cannot see past your lust for power. Is controling the self so hard that it leaves you no choise but to control the others.
Build yourselfs upright before seeking to control everybody else.
People don't rule laws rule and those that decide those laws justly are chosen and who ever wins must then be allowed to govern for the specified period.
IN SHORT IF YOU WONT SETTLE TODAY ,REGARDLESS OF THE GROUNDS, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WILL NEVER HOLD.
THE INSTITUTION OF GOVERNMENT IS WHAT IS AT RISK NOT THE CURRENT LEADERS SO CHOOSE AND CHOOSE WISELY FOR YOUR TOMMORROW IS LITERALLY IN YOUR HANDS AND YOUR PETTINESS IS ROBBING YOU OF IT.
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If Aweys had listened to Sheikh Sharif more, the invasion and occupation never would have occurred.
Sheikh Sharif put his support behind negotiations with the TFG and peace with the JVA, and a tough stance on warlords like Indha'adde. It was the self declared Mujahadeen like Adow and Turki who wanted to invade the Juba Valley and knock out the TFG, and Aweys sided with them, and brought Indha'adde into the leadership for another "aggressive" vote in the leadership.
When they had chased the ARPCT out of Mogadishu and Jowhar, they should have declared the state of Banadir and concentrated on what they were really good at: repairing Mogadishu and rebuilding the economy and society in the capital.
I think what happened in late 2006 proved that Aweys' way is not the right way, and that they should try things Sheikh Sharif's way.
Sheikh Sharif put his support behind negotiations with the TFG and peace with the JVA, and a tough stance on warlords like Indha'adde. It was the self declared Mujahadeen like Adow and Turki who wanted to invade the Juba Valley and knock out the TFG, and Aweys sided with them, and brought Indha'adde into the leadership for another "aggressive" vote in the leadership.
When they had chased the ARPCT out of Mogadishu and Jowhar, they should have declared the state of Banadir and concentrated on what they were really good at: repairing Mogadishu and rebuilding the economy and society in the capital.
I think what happened in late 2006 proved that Aweys' way is not the right way, and that they should try things Sheikh Sharif's way.
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The kid has a point when he says all of you here cheering on Jihad aren't doing shit yourselves. You are not putting your lives at risk. You are not putting your women and children at risk...............Those are the ones who suffer most every time there's a "jihad".
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The kid has a point when he says all of you here cheering on Jihad aren't doing shit yourselves. You are not putting your lives at risk. You are not putting your women and children at risk...............Those are the ones who suffer most every time there's a "jihad".
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The kid has a point when he says all of you here cheering on Jihad aren't doing shit yourselves. You are not putting your lives at risk. You are not putting your women and children at risk...............Those are the ones who suffer most every time there's a "jihad".
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[quote="MAD MAC"]The kid has a point when he says all of you here cheering on Jihad aren't doing shit yourselves. You are not putting your lives at risk. You are not putting your women and children at risk...............Those are the ones who suffer most every time there's a "jihad".[/quote]
17 yrs they bombed each other in Mogadishu and used Isbaaro on one an other...17 yrs they chose numerous men to lead them without success...and 17 yrs they completely made Mogadishu dumping place.
Now they have subsidiaries called ICU.....How utterly stupid. They certainly can't run on their record. All they can do is attack and smear the TFG, it's all they've got.
I know its not popular on Somnet, but I support the TFG, and their willingness to create Somalia out of nothing. May God bless them.
17 yrs they bombed each other in Mogadishu and used Isbaaro on one an other...17 yrs they chose numerous men to lead them without success...and 17 yrs they completely made Mogadishu dumping place.
Now they have subsidiaries called ICU.....How utterly stupid. They certainly can't run on their record. All they can do is attack and smear the TFG, it's all they've got.
I know its not popular on Somnet, but I support the TFG, and their willingness to create Somalia out of nothing. May God bless them.
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