Indhacade Is A Good Muslim

[*Arabman]

This topic was inspired by eyes-only's comment in Hiiraan boy's topic titled "Indhacade oo mar kale loo doortay xogeeyaha Gaashaandhiga." This is what eyes-only wrote:

"What's wrong with that? The UIC were doing well when he was in charge of the defence. The problem came when he left for xaj and they got a surprise aerial bombardment.

If true, it is a positive step. "

I couldn't agree more with eyes-only. I know some of you bought the TFG's propaganda about Indhacade; that he's a vile warlord who is responsible for the invasion of Somalia by threatening Ethiopia. Only a simpleton would buy such a propaganda. For one, I am sure most of you never heard of Indhacade prior to the emergence of the ICU. I haven't. I only knew about the high calibre warlords such as Abdullahi Yusuf, Ali Mahdi, Qaybdid, Maxamed Dheere, Qanyare, Yalahow, Aidid Jr. and a few others. Indhacade must have been a low-level unknown warlord.

The most serious allegations against Indhacade is; levying taxes on drinking water and the people's houses in the region he controlled. Even if that's true, compare it to what the high calibre warlords did throughout the years. Abdullahi Yusuf and Ali Mahdi collected tens/hundreds $millions for allowing Western companies to dump toxic waste into Somalia. I am sure you have seen the pictures of deformed children and young kids in many Somali websites; that's the result of dumping Western toxic waste into Somalia. Generations of Somalis are going to suffer from that.

You also know the other high calibre warlords have been responsible for the killing and wounding of tens/hundreds thousands innocent civilians throughout the years of fighting with each other, kidnappings and demanding ransom, setting up isbaaro and extorting the poor from the little money they had, etc.

You now know the same high calibre warlords are part of the collaborative government. You know hundreds thousands of your brothers and sisters are suffering under the occupation.

The other allegation about Indhacade threatening Ethiopia; if you still don't know and have to know, he threatened Ethiopian forces in Somalia. But, let's go along with the stupid allegation; so what? If a country threatens to invade/occupy another, the one that was threatened has to occupy the other? What kind of nonsense thinking is that? Ahmadinejad threatened to wipe Israel off the map; why did Israel not invade/occupy Iran?

We know the invasion and occupation of Somalia was already engineered prior to the emergence of the ICU. All signs were pointing to the emergence of the ICU, so America/Europe already prepapred their plan. Even without the existence of Indhacade, Somalia would have invaded and occupied.

This is my take on Indhacade; as a warlord, he was far better than the high calibre warlords. His crimes against Somalis are nothing compared to the crimes of the high calibre warlords. After he joined the ICU, he become a force to reckon with, a force that took part in the expulsion of many high calibre warlords from Xamar and most of Southern Somalia. He along with other ICU leaders were responsible for restoring peace, uniting the fragmented country, fighting the forces of evil, opening the airport and sea port and many other positive developments.

I say Indhacade is a good Muslim.

[AbdiWahab252]

Arabman,

Indhacade's Muslimnimo is between him and his maker.

However, as a politician and commander is he is horrible.

His appointment stirs people who opposed the UIC and defected away from the TFG to shy away from the Asmara faction.

[FAH1223]

This is the guy who got paid by the Americans to start the whole. "leave in 7 days or we will attack" and all the jihad stuff

once he said it all, it just gave Ethiopia the license to come

he isn't even in Somalia right now and he can not go back, because they know what he did

he would be slaughtered by the ICU remnants

[ciyaal_warta]

FAH how do u know:lol:

Arabman when it comes indhacade walah im confused man pple balme for colapse of UIC and some otha make him like he was a decent wadaaad

man im realy confused. somebody tell indhacade to talk to da media and let him tell us wad realy happened then i might beleive him

[FAH1223]

[quote="ciyaal_warta"]FAH how do u know:lol:
[/quote]

I thought this was common knowledge?

[*Arabman]

[However, as a politician and commander is he is horrible.]

Elaborate; cite examples of incompetence as a politician and commander.

[This is the guy who got paid by the Americans to start the whole.]

Where/when did he meet the Americans?

[Arabman when it comes indhacade walah im confused man pple balme for colapse of UIC and some otha make him like he was a decent wadaaad]

The ICU didn't collapse; it's alive and kicking.

[FAH1223]

[quote="*Arabman"]

Where/when did he meet the Americans?

[/quote]

he had constant contact with them

how do you think the US knew where to bomb in the deep south? He even had himself on their radar for them

he is in Germany (maybe some other Euro country, I forget) right now, this guy is forever in exile

[Luq_Ganane]

Whether he's a good muslim or not, is known only to Allah not to you or any of us.

[Ican]

Yeah, Indhacade was a low level warlord and a good muslim.

How exactly do you expect people to take your pitiful laments about the TFG seriously, when you declare this man to be a 'good Muslim'.

Here are some of indhacade achievements as a warlord.

"In early 2005, internecine violence erupted in the city of Baidoa – a major trading center and the current home of the Somali transitional federal government (TFG) – between two opposing RRA (Rahawein Resistance Army) factions. The Associated Press reported that, “The self-proclaimed leader of neighboring Lower Shabelle region, Sheik Yusuf Mohamed Siad Indha Ade, said he had sent fighters and pick-up trucks mounted with anti-aircraft guns to Baidoa to back Habsadeh.”2 (During that struggle for control of Baidoa, Habsadeh led the RRA faction that opposed the TFG’s attemps to temporarily house itself in the city. Supported by Indha Ade’s militias, Habsadeh’s RRA faction was successful in expelling the TFG-allied RRA faction from Baidoa).

Warlord Indha Ade’s dark history hardly stops there. An October 2005 report released by the United Nations Security Council on violations of the 1992 arms embargo on Somalia portrayed the true nature of the white-eyed devil of the fertile Shabelle valley. The U.N. report stated that, to exercise control of the region, “Indha Ade has his own militia, made up of men from his clan, and other militias from the same clan group, Hawiye.”3

Indha Ade uses his clansmen to impose clan hegemony on the unarmed civilian population of Lower Shabelle region, which has suffered successive invasions since the collapse of the Somali nation-state in 1991. As things stand today, all the district commissioners of Lower Shabelle region are from warlord Indha Ade’s sub-clan within the Hawiye clan-family. The non-Hawiye clans who have traditionally inhabited Lower Shabelle region consider the presence of warlord Indha Ade’s militias in their home region as an occupation and native resistance fighters have carried out covert operations against the positions of Indhaade’s militias.

Furthermore, the U.N. report publicized warlord Indha Ade’s drug operations: “Indha Ade also owns drug farms in the area under his control,” the report read. The resounding question in the minds of many is this: How can a man claim to be a “sheik” but run, according to the U.N. report, a “sophisticated” drug operation in the fertile region he occupies through his clan's military muscle?

Justice for all"

[FAH1223]

A leopard cannot change his spots!

[*Arabman]

[how do you think the US knew where to bomb in the deep south?]

Spy satellite and other intelligence means. With regard to Ican's UN report, we all know how UN's reports can be manipulated. Haven't we read about the UN's report alleging 720 ICU fighters who helped Hezbollah win its war against Israel in the summer of 2006?

[Advocatar]

I agree, indha cade is a good muslim and so is ayan hirsi.

[*Arabman]

[I agree, indha cade is a good muslim and so is ayan hirsi.]

Ayan Hirsi left Islam, in case if you didn't know.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

Indhacade is a good bastard, the best of the best

still, i appreciate him only for his fantasy ultimatum to the ethiopian troops..."leave within 7 days......or else i will"

[1nemansquad]

Indhacade is just another old Somali dude yaaqey, I don't get this all this excitement nonsense surrounding him.

A good Muslim? Who are we to judge that Subxan Alllah.

To the extent that headship in Somalia is concerned though, he is ineffectual in the truest sense of the word.