My take on the Wahabi supporters in here and out there

[xoogSADE14]

There used to be a time when most Somalis believed that only Islam and the word of Allah could reunite the country and brink it back from the brink. But thats over and done with thanks to cimaamad wearing thugs and their mooryaans/born-again "mujaahids".

Don't believe me? Just examine how well the ICU were supported and welcomed by virtually all Somalis until they started showing true colors. Now contrast that with how easily they were defeated once every saw their clannish ways coupled with barbaric behavior. Don't try to come here with the tired old " the ICU would've been here to stay if Ethiopia backed by the U.S. hadn't intervened" because if that were the case and the local populations still supported it, they would've put up a much harder resistance and would've made life hell for the TFG and their Ethiopian backers.

There will probably be a few tempted to respond and say "well they're doing just that" singeling out whats going on in Xamar. Xamar and Somalia aren't two interchangable words. Anyone that knows anything about the geography of the motherland knows that Banadir is the smallest of Somalia's 18 provinces. Now where aren't there uprisings in any of the other ICU captured deegaans? I'll tell you why, because the ICU CAPTURED those deegaans not LIBERATE!

After I've clearly shot down about 99% of the arguments for those still supporting the ICU thugs. There might still be some who say " there are no uprisings in other regions because the mujaahids are focusing on xamar to cut the head of the snake" so to speak. To those I say, you're either completely blinded by qabiil or so delusional to point that you're willing to do away with reality just to make a case for a bunch of illiterate, barbaric, warlords who have sent Islam in Somalia a hundred years back and have rekindled some of the hatered left over from the civil war just when the scars were beginning to heal.

Feel free to challenge me in a civilized manner and I'll show any sane person in here why continuing to support a bunch of hypocrites isn't in Somalia's or their personal interests for that matter.

[LAFO-LAFO]

I totally agree with you except "Banadir is the smallest of Somalia's 18 provinces" It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. we had taken back our provinces before 17 years, remember 1991 when you were in Dhadhaab refugee camp intaan is xambaarka lagugu soo qaadin.

[xoogSADE14]

No takers? ICU supporters and sympathizers must be on Asmara time and thus sleeping. Just a joke.

Lafo

Point well taken but please don't turn this thread into a pro/con Somaliland one. Thanks in advance.

[LAFO-LAFO]

Xoogsade,
No worry sxb, we do share the same view over wannabe Arab thugs. Walaahi I still remember One of the victims was a mum and she was beaten to death by selling "kat" Changing dresses, names e.g. Culusow to abu-cutayba, banning football etc.

[The_Emperior5]

xoogsade maad iska daysiid beenta

icu waxay la dagalaamayn
maxammad dhere uu hawiye ah
cabdiqeybdiid uu hawiya ah
muuse suudii uu hawiye ah
qanyare uu hawiye ah
barre hiiraale uu darood ah


warlord uu dhan way la dagaalamyn means they fought and libarate south of somalia

now look at somalia xamer was peacfull six month

8 month later somalia is ocupied and in war again

[TheBigBosS]

theres no such thing a wahhabi

[SomeGuy]

Xoogsade,

You hit the nail on the head. I can't agree with you more. However, please note IUC supporters are two groups.

1) Those who support UIC because of clan basis. These people won't listen to whatever reason you have to say. Sorry but you can't reason with them.

2) Those who support IUC because of ideology. This group contains bunch of hypnotized kids who have intellectual fire power to coutner attack your argument and some other low IQ one who can't put forward any reasonable debates but will label you "gaal" since you don't subscribe their barbaric ideology.

Thus, If I were you I would not expect much about these destructive elements.

Again great topic and great argument.

Someguy

[Somalistan]

Bunch of misled people. Could you stop tuning into to fox news plz?

[muslim-man]

lol@foxnews

xoog, Where have u been man?

[Luq_Ganane]

Someguy good point,

The group who thought that the ICU would be a "Khilafah" with a ruling family of Cayr like Banu Ummayah, could not be reasoned with due to their debating on a qabil not intellectual basis.

[Somali_4Life]

O You arrogant worshipper of a cursed communist,your words are nothing and you can do us nothing.Your 21 years of arrogance and thagut law has ended by overwelming victory for the believers.

Takbir!
Somalia will be ruled by the shariah law and you cant change that into the law of your dead communist(la3natullah aleyhim).

[Somali_4Life]

Soon inshallah,the somali writing system will be changed in arabic.May the one who changed this writing system into latin be punished on judgement day.Changing it is a sign of hatred for the noble quran which was revealed in clear arabic language.

[AbdiWahab252]

Xoogsade,

You made some valid points. The truth of the matter is that the ICU was a multiparty organization. There were groups who were in it for lillahi and others who were in it to advance their qabiil's agenda.

The lillahi faction got the upper hand but the qabiili faction decided to wreck the organization because in the end, the qabili faction would have to practice what they preached.

Never the less, there are segments of the ICU that can not be rationalized or negotiated with at all. For them, its our view or nothing else.

About Banadir, it is the most densely populated region in all Somalia and the largest economic center. Xamar alone had 2.5 million people living in it. There are more people in Banadir than many of the regions. Anyone who controls Banadir and manages it very well, is the defacto government of all Somalia.

[xoogSADE14]

The big boss

One liners will not do you much good in a thread like this.

Someguy

Sxb ishaad ka tuurtay.

MM

I've been around sxb, caafimaadka kawaran?

Somali4life

Ma inaan kula caaytamo baad iga sugeeysaa?

AW

sxb you're right, I would be lying if I said there weren't any decent and honest muslims who joined the ICU because they wanted to serve something greater than themselves or their clans. Take the men who sacrificed their lives at Idaale and Daynuuneey for example while their leaders fled before even the first shorts were fired.

[Luq_Ganane]

The worst thing is how old buried animosity like Darood Vs Hawiye, came back due to these series of events.