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blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:11 pm
by Sanaagian
I DONT know if this is true or real page sources *
But we need to find out if its true

Arabman *
Naaima
Wiseman
Helwaa

time you show up .... I am worried cause these haters show up with this on discussion forums and say Islam is anti black
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Mohammed ( PbuH )

referred to Blacks as "raisin heads". (Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256).

Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47).

Hadith; vol.9:162,163: Muhammad warned that dreams of black women meant disease was forthcoming.

"I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'" ~Ishaq 243

"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them." ~Tabari II:21

"It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent." ~Ishaq 450

"The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.'" ~Ishaq 374

"The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'" ~Bukhari:V4B52N137

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:13 pm
by muslim-man
subxanallah Shocked


where did you get that from? faithfreedom.com??? Laughing Laughing Laughing

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:17 pm
by Advocatar
who the fuk would believe that sh!t.....Sanaagian you really need to start studying your religion, open the quran for once and actually read it.

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:17 pm
by muslim-man
@serious discussion Laughing Laughing

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:18 pm
by Sanaagian
well didn't Saudis have blacks as slaves untill 1960s
check when they " abolished " slavery

And about Ham being enslaved by Shem

read about Mauritania
you have black mauritanis who have been slaves of white arab mauritanis in generations.... can you believe it ??
A white arab family holding a black muslim family as slaves

It makes me so angry

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:26 pm
by muslim-man
and ??

the saudis and mauratanians are the perfect example of how islam should be practised?

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:02 pm
by Madmadoobe
So this hadiths don't exist I assume.

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:03 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
Stupidest Isaaq i ever seen Laughing Laughing Laughing

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:04 pm
by Voltage
Waa gaal kan.

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:06 pm
by Madmadoobe
Quule kid why are you following me around this morning Laughing


Voltage,
How am i gaal? Just want to know whether the hadiths exist or not.

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:07 pm
by Voltage
Did you start the thread? Why made you assume I was speaking to you? Are you admitting you are Sanaagian/Madhiiso

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:08 pm
by Koronto91
There was one Jewish man who was able to fabricate 500,000 Hadiths in a span of a few years, so it wouldn't surprise me if these ones are fabrications.

Allahu Aclam!

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:08 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
waa Nacas or he's a str8 up gaal like his Adeer X.Playa Laughing Laughing Laughing

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:05 pm
by FAH1223
"Bukhari: V4B52N137" <---------- whats that? volume 4 book 5 huh?

i dunno, but i have never read the hadiths you are talking about. i am not saying they don't exist, but perhaps its something taken out of context or just really misunderstood or fake hadith from anti Muslim site, really weak hadith..i dunno

we all know there is no racism in Islam

the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasallam) loved Bilal (ra) so much and he was a black slave that both Abu Bakr and the Prophet paid for his freedom

Bilal is a very important figure in Islam

there is also a hadith that mentions the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasallam) becoming upset when he was notified of the black woman's death ( a woman who use to sweep the masjid) he wanted to pray over her. it says nothing of her name, only that she was a black woman

there is no racism in Islam against blacks, or any other color


Somalis also need to quit the hatred of blacks too, its not Islam

Re: blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves" in Islam true ?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:07 pm
by FAH1223
The Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor has a non-Arab any superiority over an Arab, nor has a black man any superiority over a white man or a white man over a black man except by the criterion of taqwa (righteous practice). All of you are from Adam, and Adam is from dust." (As-Sunan)

The Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasallam) also said: "Allah does not look at your shapes or your colors but He looks at your hearts (intentions) and your deeds. Creatures are the dependants of Allah and the closest among them to Allah are indeed the most useful to His dependants."