SHIAS ARE KUFAARS AND THEY WILL GO TO HEL

[snm_soulja_18]

wallahi thats what my islamic teacher told me

[Hyperactive]

haye and did not tell you that isn't your business hadey muslim yahin iyo hady kale?

[*Nobleman*]

yeah apprantley they plan the destruction of the sunnis and theres many conspiracies where they helped the americans in their war against the taliban. They also curse the sahaba and fam of the prophet pbuh, why would Allah surround the most honurable man saw with his enemies? doesnt make no sense

[Somali_4Life]

Not the Zaydiya sect.Tallahi,they do not curse Abu Bakr wa Umar and Uthman radiyallah anhum.They just believe that Ali r.a had the better merrits to become first khalifah.
Those who curse the sahabah and our mother are clear kuffars.

[sheldibow]

[quote="snm_soulja_18"]wallahi thats what my islamic teacher told me [/quote]


Well, your teacher is wrong ... Shias are muslims ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam

[FAH1223]

Shi'a are Muslim but they have WEIRD sects in within that realm

from my understanding they follow the Qur'an and Sunnah

but they reject 'Ijma and Quiyas cause their Imams are infallible and have the answers as if they have the gifts of Prophets (caudubillah, astaghfurillah)

[King-of-Awdal]

[quote="Somali_4Life"]Not the Zaydiya sect.Tallahi,they do not curse Abu Bakr wa Umar and Uthman radiyallah anhum.They just believe that Ali r.a had the better merrits to become first khalifah.
Those who curse the sahabah and our mother are clear kuffars.[/quote]


Thats what i dont get well therotically speaking the Choosing of Abu Baker was the first democratic vote in human kind history if am not mistakes and am not religious and stuff but i would think since he was the closest man to the prophet pbuh he was the obvious choice and did the prophet appoint anyone before his death. So the Shia are dumb and need some help.

[FAH1223]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"][quote="Somali_4Life"]Not the Zaydiya sect.Tallahi,they do not curse Abu Bakr wa Umar and Uthman radiyallah anhum.They just believe that Ali r.a had the better merrits to become first khalifah.
Those who curse the sahabah and our mother are clear kuffars.[/quote]


Thats what i dont get well therotically speaking the Choosing of Abu Baker was the first democratic vote in human kind history if am not mistakes and am not religious and stuff but i would think since he was the closest man to the prophet pbuh he was the obvious choice and did the prophet appoint anyone before his death. So the Shia are dumb and need some help. [/quote]

Thats not the first democratic election ever heard of the Greeks sxb?

the Shi'a believe the authority of the Muslim World should lie in the family of the Prophet (Sallahu Alayhi Wasallam) thru Fatima (ra) and Ali (ra).

Thats not really a dumb idea, but the authority of law, reasoning and all that should rest with people who know the best. This is also where Shi'a and Sunni divide.

[King-of-Awdal]

FAH1223
I meant in Islamic History but dont ya think if the authority of the Muslim World should lie in the family of the Prophet some people by now would have started worshipping them. Honestly i think Abu Baker desrved the leadership as he as the most trusted confident of the prophet had the leadership quality so in that sense Shia are wrong. To me it seems they tend to be more of an aristroctic society.

[snm_soulja_18]

my islamic teacher waa niin doqan oo moryaan ah he even wanted to join the icu troops to fight his own jihaad

k_awdal i ques you are close to ina kahin right would you vote for ina kahin ama ina waraabe let alone if ina kahin was a close uncle of you. i dont blaim the ali supporters they respected the choise of the voters but suddenly osman wanted to be the third khalif and he didnt accepted ali so thats why they splitted

[FAH1223]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]FAH1223
I meant in Islamic History but dont ya think if the authority of the Muslim World should lie in the family of the Prophet some people by now would have started worshipping them. Honestly i think Abu Baker desrved the leadership as he as the most trusted confident of the prophet had the leadership quality so in that sense Shia are wrong. To me it seems they tend to be more of an aristroctic society.[/quote]

yep

thats why some of these Shi'a worship and call on the grandsons of the Prophet Sallahu Alayhi Wasallam and other Imams as if they could grant their wishes

subxanallah, one of the greatest forms of shirk is associating or calling upon others besides Allah SWT

[King-of-Awdal]

FAH1223

Ok well dont those people know that there is a reason why there isnt a single surviving soul that is related to the prophet pbuh immediate family. Can someone tell me if the prophets grand children had any children and did any survive and have people realted to them now. am thinking not.

[FAH1223]

[quote="King-of-Awdal"]FAH1223

Ok well dont those people know that there is a reason why there isnt a single surviving soul that is related to the prophet pbuh immediate family. Can someone tell me if the prophets grand children had any children and did any survive and have people realted to them now. am thinking not. [/quote]

yes Husayn ibn Ali Abu Talib (ra) had a son

[The_Emperior5]

shia only allah knows if they go to hell

but these people who say the first 3 califs are kaifirien

there is something wrong in there base of islam waleh waleh

[Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah]

they also curse our mothers Aisha radiyallahu'anha and Hafsa radiyallahu'anha, the wives of the prophet and they also curse the beloved sahaba of Rasulallah Abu Bakr as-sidduiqe radiyallahu 'anh and Umar bin al-khattab al faruuq radiyallahu 'anh

hayaaaaay check this site that i found, shi3a are munaafiqeen walle!!

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:GE ... =clnk&cd=9



The one who curses the wives of the prophet and his companions is:

* Either a irreligious anti-Islamic hypocrite who make a defamation against them as a way of slandering the prophet (pbuh) and as a scheme to attack Islam. All the founders of the Shia's movements belong to this group. Note that not any one of Ahlul-Bayt belong to those Shia.

* Or an inattentive who follows his act according to one's own wishes and ignorant. Almost all the Shia today belong to this group.

Remember that Abu-Bakr and Umar (may Allah be pleased with them) were the closest companions to Muhammad (pbuh) as all references indicates and Allah confirmed in the Qur'an. His good treat to them is very well known to Shia. They were both fathers-in-law of the Prophet and his right hand. So, if the Shia claim were correct then we have three possible situations:

* Either they were hypocrites and the Prophet (pbuh) did not know that. This is a great insult to Allah since he did not warn his Messenger from his closest companions.

* Or they were hypocrites and the Prophet (pbuh) knew that. This is even worst since they are insulting the Prophet (pbuh) by claiming that he did not warn his nation from those hypocrites and he made them his relatives.

* Or they were good Muslims and they went astray after his death. This is abandonment from Allah to his messenger since He did not tell him what would happen in the future to warn the Muslim Ummah. How come Allah who promised to support his religion and his messenger, make to closest companions to his prophet renegades and hypocrites?!

By insulting the wives and the companions of the Prophet (pbuh), clearly the Shia want people to say: "Muhammad was a wanton man among wanton companions. If he were a virtuous man then his companions will be virtuous people too." The Shia curse the Companions who are the righteous pattern to this Ummah and Allah bear witness for that:

(Some part is due) to the indigent Muhajirs (the Companions who emigrated from Mecca), those who were expelled from their homes and their property, while seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure, and aiding Allah and His Messenger: such are indeed the sincere ones;

But those who, before them, had homes (in Medina) and had adopted the Faith, show their affection to such as came to them for refuge, and entertain no desire in their hearts for things given to the (latter), but give them preference over themselves, even though poverty was their (own lot). And those saved from the covetousness of their own souls; they are the ones that achieve prosperity.

And those who came after them say: "Our Lord! Forgive us, and our brethren who came before us into the Faith, and leave not, in our hearts, rancour (or sense of injury) against those who have believed. Our Lord! Thou art indeed Full of Kindness, Most Merciful." (Qur'an Hashr: 8-10)